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Johnny K
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 32
   Posted 5/11/2009 3:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey all
 
For those of you who don't know I recently got the J-pouch surgery and have been doing wonderfully. However I have always wanted to join the army, I tried at the age of 18 when I was still taking pills and very badly "controlled" for U.C. I was obviously rejected and didn't push the matter knowing it was pointless. I completed 2 years of college and during august of '08 had to have the surgery due to the fact that i was literally going back on preg every 3 months or so and in the hospital at least once outta every 8. After 4 months of recouping from the second surgery i decided to go back to the recruiting office and try and join agian. I was told that I had to wait 6 months post surgery to do anything and ended up waiting about 8 due to doctors not being able to get me all the medical documents i needed. I sent all my medical paper work to the MCO (medical commanding officer) and was rejected on waiver with the response being that U.C. is not waiverable. I have challenged this ruling due to my understanding that I'm no longer considered to have U.C. My recruiter sent more paper work up for me which came back as still not waiverable...and i'm waiting on my surgeon to write a very detailed letter for me vouching for me. I went and found the medical standards online and was reading them and am going to post them for you all to read and tell me what you think they mean. I have highlighted the areas i feel most apply to me right now and would really like to hear some feedback/advice. I'm also looking into contacting my local representive to see if that will help my case at all. Thank you all for your time and concern. This has just been eating me away for the past week or so and I'm starting to feel that i've just been givin a raw deal. Still so glad I got the surgery but hate that U.C. can take another thing away from me.
 
Also wondering if there is anyone out there who has enlisted after getting the surgery if so please contact me and tell me how you managed to do it.
 
Thanks again
 
John
 

2–3. Abdominal organs and gastrointestinal system

 

The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are an authenticated history of:

 

    a. Esophagus. Ulceration, varices, fistula, achalasia, or other dismotility disorders; chronic or recurrent

        esophagitis if confirmed by appropriate x-ray or endoscopic examination (530).

 

    b. Stomach and duodenum.

        (1) Gastritis. Chronic hypertrophic, or severe (535).

        (2) Active ulcer of the stomach or duodenum confirmed by x-ray or endoscopy (533).

        (3) Congenital abnormalities of the stomach or duodenum causing symptoms or requiring surgical
              treatment (751), except a history of surgical correction of hypertrophic pyloric stenosis of infancy.

 

    c. Small and large intestine.

        (1) Inflammatory bowel disease. Regional enteritis (555), ulcerative colitis (556), ulcerative proctitis (556).

        (2) Duodenal diverticula with symptoms or sequelae (hemorrhage, perforation, etc.) (562.02).

        (3) Intestinal malabsorption syndromes, including postsurgical and idiopathic (579).

        (4) Congenital (751). Condition, to include Meckel’s diverticulum or functional (564) abnormalities,
              persisting or symptomatic within the past 2 years.

 

    d. Gastrointestinal bleeding. History of, unless the cause has been corrected, and is not otherwise
        disqualifying (578).


21 Male in Michigan
 
Dioganosed with UC: sept 2000
 
J-pouch Surgery: august 2008
 
Feeling wonderful and hoping I can help :)


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 5/11/2009 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   

If I were you, I would look into different career paths. There are lots of things I would like to do but can't as well. You can probably work for outside companies and contract with the military and do a lot of the same things. It's not practical to waste time trying to get ONE specific job. I send out 1,000s of resumes in hopes of getting anything. You need to get on with your life. Hope this isn't insensitive but it is what I see and I hate to see you waste all this time and energy trying to do something that ends up being a let down.

I don't understand their reasoning behind not taking you. You seem to meet all the qualifications.

I think an attorney would be the next person to contact with this problem. Maybe it is discrimination?

If I were you, I would be so thankful to be healthy, have had successful j-pouch surgery - and to be clear of UC. If the military won't accept you, there are plenty of other options. Don't feel like you can't be successful because your first choice job isn't where you end up. I know a lot of people who were in the military and wished they had never enlisted. I also know a lot of people who wanted to work in a specific position and ended up hating it. You have to be more flexible, if this doesn't work out, find something that will. When I can't find a job in my field, I wait tables. If I can't find a job for years, I go back to school and get another skill. I can't sit around trying to get one job forever, life is too short.


Diagnosed with mild proctitis in March 2007: Treated with Canasa 2x Daily
December 08: Began treating with Asacol 400mg (9/day) + Canasa 2x/day - Anemic
May 09: Off Canasa, taking Asacol (9/day)


Eva Lou
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Date Joined Sep 2006
Total Posts : 3442
   Posted 5/11/2009 7:25 AM (GMT -6)   
What about another branch of the service? Are the medical standards the same for all of them? The Coast Guard always seemed kind of cool to me. I used to want to be a Merchant Marine in a big way, but also because of UC (& other factors) I didn't pursue it. I agree with notsosicklygirl- ut's unfortunate, but it is what it is. And even if you get a lawyer, you can expect a long drawn-out court case & in the end, still not be accepted. There has got to be another career that has the qualities & duties you are looking for in the army- what about some sort of recruitment position? Or working for the government in another format, if that's what you want, the government perks & such. It does stink, but what can you do? And when you read the medical standards, they state "The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are an authenticated history of:". Note the wording- "authenticated history of"- which you certainly do have!

diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- since 4/07
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics
Fiber supplement
 
 
 


kops2da
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Date Joined Jun 2008
Total Posts : 2865
   Posted 5/11/2009 7:55 AM (GMT -6)   

I don't believe I can post here the j-pouch forum but that is where you should go to ask questions - google it and there is a lot of info and I am sure some who are/were in the service. 

You know that I am a retired Army wife!  I truly believe in serving your country but I told you before - there are many other ways - very satisfying ways.  However, don't give up until you have to if you are determined!!  Check out jobs with the Veterans Admnistration.  There are not enough GOOD people working there and you would be a wonderful asset to the veterans of this country.

ElaineNY


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


fruitgirl
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Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 7150
   Posted 5/11/2009 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, you no longer have a colon, so you no longer have ulcerative colitis/IBD!!! How can it be that hard for them to understand that?!

As you know this is what you really want to do, keep pushing!! Why don't you try contacting your nearest Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of America chapter office? You're in Michigan, right? Here's the info for the office there:

31313 Northwestern Highway
Suite 204
Farmington Hills, MI 48334
Phone: 248-737-0900
Fax: 248-737-0904
Email: michigan@ccfa.org
Toll Free: 888-737-CCFA (2232)

They might have some knowledge to help you out!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Johnny K
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 32
   Posted 5/11/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks you everyone...its always helpful for me to have outside thoughts being i get so caught up in some things especially when i feel i am right. the army is not my only course of action right now...i'm also looking into a fire fighting academy, and i am a welder who is currently laid off and delivering pizzas. If I'm not accepted to the army I believe I can move on but it's something I do and always have felt very strongly about doing. I will look into the chapter thank you very much fruit.
21 Male in Michigan
 
Dioganosed with UC: sept 2000
 
J-pouch Surgery: august 2008
 
Feeling wonderful and hoping I can help :)


notsosicklygirl
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 16277
   Posted 5/11/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Best of luck to you Johnny. I do admire your persistence but I don't want to see you work so hard for something and not get anywhere. The Fire Dept could be an incredible opportunity.

Diagnosed with mild proctitis in March 2007: Treated with Canasa 2x Daily
December 08: Began treating with Asacol 400mg (9/day) + Canasa 2x/day - Anemic
May 09: Off Canasa, taking Asacol (9/day)


Johnny K
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 32
   Posted 5/11/2009 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Just to answer you specifically supersaw...I understand it may not be the best idea in the world but its something i feel very strongly about doing, i don't know why i feel about it the way i do but i'm sure its wats right for me to do. I no longer have any IBD but i do have 2 massive scares on my abdomin that would be very obvious when i go to meps. thanx for the idea tho. and thank you for serving.
21 Male in Michigan
 
Dioganosed with UC: sept 2000
 
J-pouch Surgery: august 2008
 
Feeling wonderful and hoping I can help :)


Peety
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 2855
   Posted 5/11/2009 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
I didn't read all the posts here, but,
Your member of Congress may be able to help you. Seriously! They can get through all the red tape and BS, like you wouldn't believe. What state are you in, what city, and I can check if any in your Congressional delegation are on military-related committees, since they would be most tuned into what can be done and the military branches will listen to them.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; used prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated wheat/gluten from my diet. Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion). 
Bad flare in March, used prednisone. Humira denied, started Remicade 4/12 and doing great~ 


Johnny K
Regular Member


Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 32
   Posted 5/12/2009 9:07 PM (GMT -6)   
i'm in michigan...i haven't gone to them yet but i've been thinking about it alot of people have mentioned to do so would they help in this situation??
21 Male in Michigan
 
Dioganosed with UC: sept 2000
 
J-pouch Surgery: august 2008
 
Feeling wonderful and hoping I can help :)

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