Colitis and IBS...

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qwerty1
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   Posted 5/11/2009 10:54 AM (GMT -6)   
...how can you have both?! My gastro nurse told me today that it sounds like I have IBS aswell, I don't really understand how you can have 2 at the same time!
22 year old female, from the UK.
 
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis Jan '08, Proctosigmoiditis Jan '09.
Hospitalised Jan '09 for 3 days IV Hydrocortisone - had no effect!
Hospitalised Feb '09 for 7 days (5 days - IV Hydrocortisone)
  
Currently taking daily: 
15mg Prednisolone tablets (tapering from 40mg, came off at 5mg then back up to 15mg)
1g Acetarsol suppository every other night (Previously taking 5mg Pred suppository)
1g Mesalazine granules x 2
 
7.5mg Zopiclone (taken when needed for sleeping)
10mg Citalopram (anti-anxiety/depression)
Probiotic Multivitamins 
                             
                             


sweetmelody
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   Posted 5/11/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I happen to have both. IBS is more of a reaction to food and stress. There aren't any physical signs of it, just symptoms, which unfortunately are almost the same as UC.

I am actually supposedly in remission right now with my UC, but my IBS is causing me some issues. Thankfully, I was given an anti-spasmodic med though and it's helping.

I don't know how you have both, but I def. know you can have both.
Kara, 22F Married.
Latest-Finally tapering off prednisone 5mg every week.. Staying on Lialda 2 twice a day. Currently colonoscopy shows remission. Apparently my symptoms are from my IBS side of my issues.
Medications:Prednisone 25mg, Lialda 2 twice a day, Align probiotic, Anti-spasmodic as needed.
I am so sick of this disease!
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 5/11/2009 10:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, unfortunately one can....but differentiating while flaring is almost impossible.

Seems you've had lots of ups and downs...what exactly are the symptoms that the nurse suggested was IBS and not UC?

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


pb4
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   Posted 5/11/2009 11:02 AM (GMT -6)   
IBS is a functioning disorder, my GI explained to me when he told me I also have IBS that especially for those that have frequent/severe flares (and/or have had active IBD for many yrs) with their IBD that your bowels would become irritable and even in remission (or not) with your IBD that IBS can become an issue as well.

Some docs (and even patients) don't believe you can have both but there's no reason really why you couldn't they are 2 totally seperate entities that just happen to have very similar symptoms.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


basa0806
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   Posted 5/11/2009 11:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I for sure have both. My IBS is exacerbated by stress and anxiety. Just this last week IBS was kicking my butt thanks for finals.
The funny thing is that I can tell the difference between if I'm cramping and having d from IBS or from UC.
Sam(antha)
20 year old college student diagnosed in March 2005
Remission since January/April 2006->THREE YEARS!!!!!
Trying Colazal 3 750mg x2 (NOT for a flare, just some linger symptoms?)
I was kind of stupid and started taking the colazal two days before finals week started, so I went back to asacol for the week and will go back to Colazal starting 5/9. Shame on me!!
25mg Elavil
75mg Effexor XR for GAD
"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude."
Maya Angelou


qwerty1
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   Posted 5/11/2009 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
Yeah, unfortunately one can....but differentiating while flaring is almost impossible.

Seems you've had lots of ups and downs...what exactly are the symptoms that the nurse suggested was IBS and not UC?

q

I've just flared up again since coming off the steroids...so theyve now started me on azathioprine and put me back on 40mg steroids. But I was telling the nurse about the pain I was getting and she said the pain could be IBS symptoms aswell as Colitis. Thats all she said. I have found certain food intolerances..including lactose, and random things like garlic and sour cream, I didn't mention this to her today but maybe these are symptoms of IBS aswell I don't know...?! Confusing!
22 year old female, from the UK.
 
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis Jan '08, Proctosigmoiditis Jan '09.
Hospitalised Jan '09 for 3 days IV Hydrocortisone - had no effect!
Hospitalised Feb '09 for 7 days (5 days - IV Hydrocortisone)
  
Currently taking daily: 
40mg Prednisolone tablets
100mg Azathioprine
1g Acetarsol suppository every other night (Previously taking 5mg Pred suppository)
1g Mesalazine granules x 2
 
7.5mg Zopiclone (taken when needed for sleeping)
10mg Citalopram (anti-anxiety/depression)
Probiotic Multivitamins 
                             
                             


subdued
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   Posted 5/11/2009 1:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I have both. I had IBS for years before I got Colitis. I'm very careful about what I eat so that I don't get gas, bloating, and diarrhea, because I always get IBS symptoms before a flare.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission
Don't expect your doctor to cure your health problems. Your health is your responsibility.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Avoid HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
When flaring: eat anti-inflammatory foods, avoid pro-inflammatory foods
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)


hana24
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   Posted 5/11/2009 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
My doctor told me that if you are 100% great with solid stools when you are on 40 mg of pred then you don't have IBS as a separate problem. Steroids will not do anything for IBS. I just thought I would bring it up because I thought I had IBS for years and I probably only had mild UC. When you are flaring at all with UC then you colon is irritated thus you have IBS(kind of), but people which IBS still have problems even when their UC is fine.
Jessica 27/F
Remicade
Lialda 4.8GM
Citalopram 20 MG


qwerty1
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   Posted 5/11/2009 3:45 PM (GMT -6)   
hana24 said...
My doctor told me that if you are 100% great with solid stools when you are on 40 mg of pred then you don't have IBS as a separate problem. Steroids will not do anything for IBS. I just thought I would bring it up because I thought I had IBS for years and I probably only had mild UC. When you are flaring at all with UC then you colon is irritated thus you have IBS(kind of), but people which IBS still have problems even when their UC is fine.

....interesting!
 
Thanks everybody for all your posts smilewinkgrin
22 year old female, from the UK.
 
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis Jan '08, Proctosigmoiditis Jan '09.
Hospitalised Jan '09 for 3 days IV Hydrocortisone - had no effect!
Hospitalised Feb '09 for 7 days (5 days - IV Hydrocortisone)
  
Currently taking daily: 
40mg Prednisolone tablets
100mg Azathioprine
1g Acetarsol suppository every other night (Previously taking 5mg Pred suppository)
1g Mesalazine granules x 2
 
7.5mg Zopiclone (taken when needed for sleeping)
10mg Citalopram (anti-anxiety/depression)
Probiotic Multivitamins 
                             
                             


princesa
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   Posted 5/11/2009 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I know I'm in the minority around here, but I feel IBS and IBD are on a continuum of declining digestive function as opposed to being totally separate conditions. I suffered with IBS and didn't have the sense to try to figure out what the cause was or why my digestion was screwed up. I took antispasmodics and antianxiety meds to treat the symptoms. Eventually, I had a trigger event (dose of broad spectrum antibiotics) that set off the UC. Since then, I've found that my IBS mysteriously disappeared when I got my digestive ecology rebalanced, healed the gut and problem foods are eliminated from the diet - all things I did to heal my UC.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999. Have been in remission for years with only a few minor blips.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, vitamin D, fiber supplement and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and l-glutamine for gut healing. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free low carb diet.
 
 


jeanneac
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   Posted 5/11/2009 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been diagnosed with both and I am not totally sure I can tell one from the other. Sometimes I think that one can set the other one off.
diagnosed 1/09 with colitis,54 yo, colazal, fish oil, synthroid, cymbalta


subdued
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   Posted 5/11/2009 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
princesa said...
I know I'm in the minority around here, but I feel IBS and IBD are on a continuum of declining digestive function as opposed to being totally separate conditions. I suffered with IBS and didn't have the sense to try to figure out what the cause was or why my digestion was screwed up. I took antispasmodics and antianxiety meds to treat the symptoms. Eventually, I had a trigger event (dose of broad spectrum antibiotics) that set off the UC. Since then, I've found that my IBS mysteriously disappeared when I got my digestive ecology rebalanced, healed the gut and problem foods are eliminated from the diet - all things I did to heal my UC.


Hi Princesa,

The medical community probably says that they are totally unrelated and they could be for those who have certain kinds of IBD. However, in my case, I too believe they are related. I had IBS for years before I had my first colitis flare up. The gas and diarrhea certainly is not good for my colon and has set off my flares.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission
Don't expect your doctor to cure your health problems. Your health is your responsibility.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Avoid HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
When flaring: eat anti-inflammatory foods, avoid pro-inflammatory foods
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)


Zippy123
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   Posted 5/11/2009 6:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with the two being very related. The slightest nerves can easily sent me to the bathroom even before colitis officially hit. If that is part of IBS, then I had it before colitis. My mom had the same problem for years and still does.

When I was a kid in my teens, instead of my nerves affecting my bowels, it affected my stomach so much that I would get sick and toss my cookies. As I got older it seem to go from my stomach to my bowels.

mbx5
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 365
   Posted 5/11/2009 6:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I never had issues with BM's until one day I turned the toilet purple... A few weeks before that I had stabbing pains in my gut but being 19 I thought it was either too much beer or ate something bad.... fast fwd 2 weeks to a purple toilet and it was all down hill from there. I didnt get urgency and D until years later when I feel I developed IBS in relation to my UC. I too feel in my case it is part of my digestive function decline...
Stats:35 yr old male. UC for 15 years.
location:North Western PA
DX: Started left-sided UC, most recent scope shows pancolitis
Medications:20mg pred (as of 4/27/09), 12x pills Asacol per day, 100mg Imuran per day, 1mg Atavan per day (anxiety) when needed, 20mg paxil per day, Super-omega fish oil pills - 1x per day, Flax oil pills - 1x am, 1x pm, Culturelle probiotics - 2x am, 1x pm, Vitamin B-12 injections weekly.
Surgeries: Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland (and I am still more afraid of my UC!!)

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