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jeanneac
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   Posted 5/15/2009 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I was just wondering. Do others get diarrhea from eating vegetables? I can only eat maybe 1 serving of cooked veggies a day or I get d from it. Same with fruits. Salads and raw veggies are completely out for me. Are there some fruits and veggies that are better tolerated for for people like us? Bananas are always safe for me but I need to find more fruits and veggies for my health. I suppose I could try 100% juices but I miss having 2/3 veggies at each meal! Any suggestions for me? Thanks so much~!
diagnosed 1/09 with colitis,54 yo, colazal, fish oil, synthroid, cymbalta


Nor_TX
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   Posted 5/15/2009 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I also cannot eat vegetables. I have been buying baby fruits and vegetables because they are high in potassium and are easily handled. I have tried avocados and they sit pretty well also. Canned peaches, apricots are good. I have to stay away from any tomato products as well as fresh vegetables and fruits.
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Hellokitty
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   Posted 5/15/2009 3:24 PM (GMT -6)   
don’t know, I tried a raw food diet and ended up constipated. I am still trying to find out how it happened. I thought raw foods would do the opposite. I;m still trying to find someone who might know the answer to this.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1/2 X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa (I reduced this to see how my diet will effect me) and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.


pb4
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   Posted 5/15/2009 3:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I can eat all fruits and veggies with no issues, but I have other fibres that I eat to balance, eating both soluble and insolubel including grains is fine with me...when I eat popcorn for example the next day I have good firm (not constipated) stools and less stools that day as well.

Try a variety and see what works best for you, apples are another good one that give me nice good stools.

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jeanneac
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   Posted 5/15/2009 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, you are lucky being able to eat such a variety of fiber! I wouldn't dare eat seeds or popcorn. It is time for me to start on the benefiber again. I can't even have that when my stomach is bothering me.
diagnosed 1/09 with colitis,54 yo, colazal, fish oil, synthroid, cymbalta


pb4
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   Posted 5/15/2009 8:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I've never had issues (other than maybe some bloating and gas) from eating fruits, vegies, popcorn, nuts and seeds, but since taking the fibre supplements daily now for the last 5ish yrs I never get bloated or gassy from any of the above. I started taking the fibre supplements when my flare was at about it's worst and it was one of the best things I've done, my GI told me to take it daily and indefinitely and I have been so far...starting and then stopping will mean that your system will have to re-adjust to fibre supplements again...but it's worth it, that's why I'm glad my GI said I could take them indefinitely.

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jeanneac
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   Posted 5/15/2009 9:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Yea, perhaps it does make sense to be regular with the fiber.
diagnosed 1/09 with colitis,54 yo, colazal, fish oil, synthroid, cymbalta


Dr-A
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   Posted 5/15/2009 10:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I can usually do full fresh salads and raw veggies (Sometimes the salads I eat out at a restaurant can give me D). Seeds really don't bother me either (I just chew the heck out of them). Popcorn is iffy sometimes. Never know.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
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pb4
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   Posted 5/15/2009 11:45 PM (GMT -6)   
It can be very individual that's for sure but one thing I've noticed from support boards is alot of people are terrified of fibre (even supplement form) then they give it a try and to their amazement feel so much better cuz they see good results...again, everyone is different but some people also don't realize that their system still has to adjust to fibre (even in supplement form) and once they stop taking it (via food an/or supplement) then they have to start all over again which means adjusting again...it took my system 3 months to adjust to the fibre supplements and in those 3 months it really increased my already excessive gas and bloating but man was it worth it (for me) as well as for many others from what I've read.

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subdued
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   Posted 5/16/2009 12:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I eat cooked veggies.

I can eat bananas, berries, fresh pineapple, and fresh citrus fruits.

I can't eat pears, peaches, grapes, apples, honey, HFCS, artificial sweeteners, because I'm fructose intolerant. I also can't drink juice.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission
Don't expect your doctor to cure your health problems. Your health is your responsibility.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Avoid HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
When flaring: eat anti-inflammatory foods, avoid pro-inflammatory foods
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)


allfortheking
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   Posted 5/18/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I only eat organic fruits and vegetables. Broccoli, carrots, peas, potatoes, bell peppers all are fine. When cooked is the best. If you can drink veggies it's even better. I highly recommend carrot juice. As for fruits... Lately I've been staying away from bananas because even though they are high in potassium, I learned that they tend to stick to your abdominal walls and make it harder for the intestine to push through. Acidic fruits like oranges, lemons, and pineapple don't always go well with me.
Male / Age: 30
Diagnosed with UC in 2007
Used to take Colozal (5-ASA) but stopped taking it Aug. 2008.
Natural supplements: Aloe Vera, Iron, Vitamin B12, Liquid Chlorophyll, Acidophilus


pb4
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   Posted 5/18/2009 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
allfortheking said...
Lately I've been staying away from bananas because even though they are high in potassium, I learned that they tend to stick to your abdominal walls and make it harder for the intestine to push through.
I highly doubt that is true about bananas sticking to your ab walls making it harder fot the intestines to push it through...janet jackson thinks the same about pasta, she believes (for some bizarre reason) that past sticks to your intestinal tract, also very untrue.  Healthy or not your intestines are a muscle that naturally pushes food through, even those that are constipated, cuz constipations starts at the end of the GI tract.
 
If that was the case with bananas and pasta then the same would hold true with other foods that have the same consistancy, like bread, but it doesn't, it's totally false information.  On another board someone said they can't eat bananas cuz the little seeds in the bananas scrape their intestinal lining making things more irritated, also not very likely at all.
 
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fruitgirl
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   Posted 5/18/2009 2:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Bananas can be constipating, but I doubt it's because they "sick" to the intestinal walls.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


princesa
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   Posted 5/18/2009 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
James Scala's book The New Eating Right for a Bad Gut recommends peeling all veggies and fruits and cooking them until they're very soft to break down the tough fiber matrix. You can even puree or mash them after cooking. The safest veggies for me were squashes, carrots, green beans and English peas - all very well cooked.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999. Have been in remission for years with only a few minor blips.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, vitamin D, fiber supplement and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and l-glutamine for gut healing. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free low carb diet.
 
 


allfortheking
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   Posted 5/19/2009 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Well I'm no doctor or anything. Sorry to make you all so upset with the banana info. I'm just sharing my experience with food and thought I could hopefully offer someone advice in the process. I know for everyone, food is going to react differently with their gut. You just have to try and see for yourself. While most of you have been suffering with UC for who knows how long, I've been UC free almost all year (I was diagnosed with it in 2007 and start of 2009 was determined not to live another year with having to take bloody dumps all day) and I think it has better chances of going away with changes to diet, exercise, sleep pattern, and environment than going to a GI doctor and taking pills/steroids for the rest of your life. I did that the first year and was not happy with results. The drugs were being upped every time I complained about it. I saw 3 different GI doctors. The last one was great, from UNC-Chapel Hill research facility. He knew a lot about UC since his wife was also a UC sufferer, but he basically had me on drugs and I got tired of taking so many pills a day. I was taking as many as almost 14 pills (that was including iron from being anemic) a day and so I decided to take a more natural approach. I figured something caused this in me, and maybe I could reverse it or cause the ulceration to heal itself from the inside. Everything we eat passes through there. I'm somewhat convinced that a lot of these doctors want to give you something that will basically "cover up" symptoms. Nothing really makes any of it go away. It just releases chemicals into your body to coat and cover the ulceration inside. I felt better, but not really, because I knew that once I was off the drugs it would all come back. I even tried it and stopped taking it for a month and the bleeding and flare ups came back even worse. In 6 months time I ended up twice in a hospital from so much blood loss that doctors wanted to give me a transfusion, but I declined. Life was horrible. I once remember writing in my journal how I was so depressed about having UC. I felt as though my body were in a prison. I could not even go anywhere for something as simple as grocery shopping, and luckily my job understood and allowed me to work from home, but I was going to the bathroom maybe so much I barely even slept. I'd wake up every hour just to go. So anyways fast forwarding, this year I decided I was going to watch everything I ate and take notes. I changed my diet in every way possible. Cut out all the artifical crap, food that was boxed, processed, packaged, or wrapped went out the door. Stopped eating out. Cut out all sweets too. I realized that even though I thought I was a healthy eater, I wasn't. Even cooking at home I found ways to cook healthier. My diet consisted of probably what our ancestors ate. Mostly leafy greens, fish, chicken, and only water or pressed, organic carrot juice. In about 30 days, all the bleeding stopped. In about 45 days, diarrhea stopped and stools became hard again. In around 60 days, I felt a lot more energetic. I still take the iron and a few supplements, and have included Aloe Vera drink, and will continue doing so. My colon is feeling normal again. I plan on getting another colonoscopy this summer and hopefully baffling my doctors. My goal is to stop seeing the GI doctors. I'm tired of all the medical bills and I am taking my life back!
Male / Age: 30
Diagnosed with UC in 2007
Used to take Colozal (5-ASA) but stopped taking it Aug. 2008.
Natural supplements: Aloe Vera, Iron, Vitamin B12, Liquid Chlorophyll, Acidophilus


bbc
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   Posted 5/19/2009 10:13 PM (GMT -6)   
If flaring high fiber based foods are not good...but when in remmission they are a vital component of a healthy GI tract.
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Corti Foam p.m. 3-4X per week
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Eliminated Fructose and Corn Syrup
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pb4
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   Posted 5/19/2009 11:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm not a doctor either (but would think to know bananas don't do that you wouldn't have to be a doctor), I'm certainly not upset about the banana info, I just wouldn't want others to think this is what bananas do and then avoid eating them especially since they are full of potassium and a good source of fibre...plus, they wouldn't stick to your abdominal walls, foods pass through the intestines and stomach.

I'm definitely on the same page with you when it comes to cutting all garbage foods out of your diet, I've done the same and it's helped me alot, this is probably the best I've felt (even though it's not full remission) in the entire 18 yrs that I've been battling crohn's colitis (CD affecting the colon).

:)
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fruitgirl
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   Posted 5/20/2009 9:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I think it's important to eat well, whether you have an IBD or not, and I don't think anyone on this board will disagree with you on that. I also think that food affects each one of us differently. Some people on here have found that diet really affects their UC, while others don't.

But the idea that bananas (or any food for that matter) stick to the intestinal walls just seems a bit out there.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


jeanneac
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   Posted 5/20/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I think that eating a healthy diet is very important. You do have to wonder if all the preservatives, artificial ingredients etc... build up and harm us. I have always eaten mostly a plant based diet and have no idea why/how this happened to me. I was lucky to grow up on healthy food in my home too. There were no fast food restaurants back then and I have never eaten that stuff on a regular basis. Now, too much roughage makes me have d. I am sure that this will change in time. Hats off to anyone who can go into remission with diet. That is a miracle for them and gives hope to others.
diagnosed 1/09 with colitis & diverticulitis
 54 yo, colazal, fish oil, synthroid, cymbalta
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