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Dr-A
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   Posted 5/22/2009 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
You will not hear this on national news. Although, if the research had went the other way it would be on every news channel.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


quincy
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   Posted 5/22/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting....but they still cannot deternine why.

They didn't state whether the flu viruses the asthmatics had were of the ones in the vaccines or not.

I do know that many kids aren't on any preventer meds, or do they up them when colds or other viruses attack in the event to prevent severe flares.

There are more variables..etc.
I'm talking from my own experience with asthma and intrinsic reactions to colds, etc. When I had the flu....eeks...it was horrific...and I did have the flu vaccine.

Thanks for the link to the site....I've now got it in my faves.

You're totally correct in the news aspect...but the concerns of proper medications and recognising symptoms is a must.

quincy
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 5/22/2009 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   
What this article doesn't address is that kids with underlying health issues are more likely to get the vaccine in the first place and are also more likely to require hospitalization when they get sick. So, it's somewhat skewed.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


quincy
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   Posted 5/22/2009 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
having asthma alone would put them in the category of getting the flu shots. That's the underlying health issue.

From how I read it anyway...
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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Total Posts : 7150
   Posted 5/22/2009 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Not all of the kids in the study had asthma. The 3x higher risk of hospitalization if the vaccine was given was among all 263 kids in the study and it doesn't say if they had other underlying health problems. Of kids who had asthma, there was a greater rate of hospitalization if they had the vaccine, but they didn't say what that increase was.

I personally always get the vaccine. The one year I didn't, I got it, and was so sick for over a week that I slept 12 hours at night, and spent the other 12 hours of the day dozing on the couch. Then I was run down for at least another two weeks. Luckily, the worst of it was over Christmas break, as I was a junior in college and had a really heavy class load!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


quincy
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Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 30976
   Posted 5/22/2009 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh...must read it again, obviously.

Some kids may not have been diagnosed asthmatic possibly.

The flu definitely sucks....I hope to never have it again...I can feel my teeth chattering and hear my moans and groans from that time. horrific.

Here's to staying "healthy"..haha
q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 

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