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Mitzo
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   Posted 5/26/2009 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Yesterday I found a product called Curcumin 95 at the herbal supplement shop, and bought it and took several pills in the afternoon and evening as directed. This morning I woke up with a stomach ache, followed by extreme urgency and the first formed stool in weeks, followed half an hour later by a huge D bomb. Stomach still feels yucky.
Has anyone had experience with this, and can I expect the yuckiness to go away and the benefit to increase over time, or am I just not cut out to use this?
23 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 


JingleBell
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   Posted 5/26/2009 10:51 AM (GMT -6)   
I take a product called Curamin made by Europharma. I had quite the opposite results with it.
 


Mitzo
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   Posted 5/26/2009 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   
You mean, no stomach pains? It worked for you?

23 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 


Peety
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   Posted 5/26/2009 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I think you might need to ease into these kinds of supplements.
It didn't bother me, but I didn't take that much.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol maintenance for 20+ years; used prednisone & Rowasa for flares.  Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion), salmon oil (omega-3) when I can remember. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated wheat/gluten from my diet.
Bad flare in March, used prednisone. Humira denied, started Remicade 4/12 and doing great~ learning what normal is~ wow


Probiotic
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   Posted 5/26/2009 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I'll jump in here and say that I was wondering why I never hear anyone else mention tolerance issues with circumin/turmeric. I have tried it repeatedly for my UC and generally it seems to flare me up somewhat. This is completely contrary to everything that I read about it, but it seemed as if I was the only one. I do ok (in terms of tolerance) with low doses such as one capsule a day, but the studies that show benefit for IBD tend to involve fairly high doses. You can try taking it with meals- I know some of the studies involved taking it sort of on an empty stomach, but taking it with meals may make it more tolerable. I actually love the taste of it in meals (same with curried food) but I am ultra-sensitive to all sharp spices so I may be a lost cause.


Pancolitis >20 years, allergic to all 5ASAs
Tried everything under the sun (natural and alternative)
Some partial success with TSO but was too expensive to keep up 
Remicade Humira, lots of probiotics, entocort, tapering pred again, maybe surgery this year
 
 


JingleBell
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   Posted 5/26/2009 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I only take two capsules per day but have taken up to four per day without a problem. It might just depend upon the individual. I know that there is someone on this forum who is an advocate for tumeric in it's root form. Perhaps trying that might be better.
 


yuckygut
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   Posted 5/27/2009 12:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I had taken the curcumin capsules just like yourself, but they didnt help my UC, I believe
its because it is not water soluble and just passes thru the gut.  That being said, I later found the Haldi drinks which I have talked about before sending me into remission.  The company said in the drink formulation they have it is more absorbable/activated.  It is interesting that I can tolerate the drink, but even curry I cannot do.  I have never figured that one out??
 
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yuckygut
 
diagnosed 1998
 
now off prednisone and colazal
 
drink 1 Haldi daily  

AKB
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   Posted 5/27/2009 3:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Here's my advice-- turmeric pills are going to get you nowhere but a lighter wallet. All the studies I've seen for UC + curcumin involve high doses. Turmeric is very poorly absorbed, so my theory is that you can spend tons of money buying questionable formulations of it that are supposedly more absorbable, or you can just overcompensate by eating more of it in its (dirt cheap) powder form. I do the latter, two teaspons a day (one AM, one PM).
 
I just had a c-scope and the doc said he couldn't tell I've ever had UC. Two years ago, I was homebound for nearly a year because of a horrible flare. I credit turmeric with helping me the most, and I can't advocate strongly enough for it.
 
All that being said, turmeric is not for sensitive stomachs... I can't find it, but I remember reading that it might even cause stomach ulcers if taken in large quantities! So listen to your body and perhaps try taking it with some food to see if you can handle it better. There's gold in them hills! Hang in there.
 
 
Dx:

Left-sided UC, Jun 2005. Flex-sig only... clear for first 20cms, then inflamed through next 30cms.

Therapies:

Pharmaceutical: Lialda 2/day, Rowasa/hydrocort as needed
Probiotics: Primadophilus Bifidus
Naturals: Caprylic Acid, Vit ABCDE, Zinc, Turmeric, Bromelain, Fish Oil, Flax Oil


Mitzo
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   Posted 5/27/2009 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks all. The curcumin has sent me into a big big big tailspin, with virtually uncontrollable D after taking only 5 pills, the last yesterday morning and this morning I am sitting here waiting for my 7th explosion of the day. Hardly slept last night from stomach pain and toilet trips. No more curcumin for me.
23 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 


diaper man
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   Posted 5/27/2009 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I am not sure but I think Tumeric through me into a flare. It was either that or the Glucosomine and Chondroitin drink I started to take for my joints.  As of yesterday, i quit taking everything to see if it clears up.
Diagnosed Crohns/Colitis Jan 2007.  Allergic to 5sa. Currently taking Humira and Hydrocortisone suppositories. 
Colits in last part of Colon.  Currently bleeding every bowel movement. 


kazygirl
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   Posted 5/28/2009 2:00 AM (GMT -6)   
i take turmeric / curcurmin and it helps me. no problems at all with it.

i take the capsules that are filled with the powder. natures sunshine makes it in powder form.
just like eating 2 spoonfulls without having to actually eat 2 spoonfuls! the capsules are big and full of tumeric in its spice form like you would eat it on a curry.

might want to try that out as opposed to the tablets.

unless of course it hurts you.

what helps one person doesnt necessarily help another.
i have had bad luck with anything working for me that helps everyone else.

so each body is different. 'darn it"
steph - 32 - female - gold coast australia - UC since 2000
severe UC in descending colon and sigmoid colon ONLY
mesalazine granules 3g x1 a day (much nicer than a million tablets a day)
prednisolone 25mg x1 a day (ick ick and did i say ick?)
enteric coated fish oil -omega 3 (so they get all the way to my colon)
vitamin D3 x1 a day
tumeric capsules - if i remember to take the bloody things.
i still eat what i want, when i want, if i feel like eating at all :(
 
 
 


AKB
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   Posted 5/28/2009 2:28 AM (GMT -6)   
for those that think turmeric sent them into a flare-- check your bottle. Is it pure turmeric, or did you get turmeric + biopiperine. Biopiperine is essentially pepper, and it 'stuns' the cells into absorbing turmeric, which is why it's a common supplement to turmeric pills. Problem was, at least for me, that stunning really hurt and bothered my UC, which was the original reason I started taking it in powder form.

I really, really doubt turmeric alone would trigger a flareup-- it's an anti-inflammatory, and really, you can't be consuming that much if you're taking it in pill form. I think you'd be missing a huge opportunity to help your uc by cutting it out of your protocol based on a hunch.

The landmark curcumin / UC study is a great read:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17101300
Dx:

Left-sided UC, Jun 2005. Flex-sig only... clear for first 20cms, then inflamed through next 30cms.

Therapies:

Pharmaceutical: Lialda 2/day, Rowasa/hydrocort as needed
Probiotics: Primadophilus Bifidus
Naturals: Caprylic Acid, Vit ABCDE, Zinc, Turmeric, Bromelain, Fish Oil, Flax Oil


diaper man
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   Posted 5/28/2009 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
I got a print out from Walgreens about Tumeric. In the printout is has Adverse Reactions. Qoute this is what was said "It can cause gastrointestinal adverse effects such as nausea and diarrhea"
Diagnosed Crohns/Colitis Jan 2007.  Allergic to 5sa. Currently taking Humira and Hydrocortisone suppositories. 
Colits in last part of Colon.  Currently bleeding every bowel movement. 

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