Are all probiotics created equal?

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Canadian Chick
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   Posted 5/27/2009 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I purchased some from the grocery store the other day, but I'm a bit confused - are some better than others? Work better for us UC people? Any advice would be appreciated to ensure I'm making the best decision.

fruitgirl
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   Posted 5/27/2009 1:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Not all are the same, as there are a ton of different probiotic organisms, different numbers of live bacteria in the pills, etc. Basically, it's like food is with UCers...you'll have to figure out what works for you and what doesn't. I take culturelle, and it seems a lot of other people on here do as well.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


pb4
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   Posted 5/27/2009 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Definitely they are not, some have more live cultures in them (colony-forming unit (CFU) is a measure of viable bacterial or fungal numbers. Unlike in direct microscopic counts where all cells, dead and living, are counted, CFU measures viable cells. By convenience the results are given as , colony-forming units per milliliter.)

The one I use is called Primadophilus Reuteri made by natures way which can be found in most health food stores (in their refridgerator), typically the refridgerator ones are best...this one that I take also contains 5 billion CFU's and it aids with lactose intolerance, high cholesterol and for women, vaginal health (I no longer have issues with severe lactose intolerance, high cholesterol or yeast infections which I used to have issues with, so I know it works). I also have not had a single mouth sore (and no proctitis issues since I started taking it about 5 yrs ago which is the longest I have not had proctitis issues) it does have guaranteed intestinal release which is another reason why I like it, many of them don't get past the gut which is really of no use to an IBDer.

It's affordable too, in Canada (where you are as well) I pay 29.00 for 90 caps and only one/day is needed so one bottle goes a long way, the only downside is it must be kept in the fridge but that's not a big deal for me.

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quincy
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   Posted 5/27/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Actually, pb4...in Winnipeg, the price at ALL nutrition stores is about $78...so, not affordable.

Do you order yours online?

I tend to get the pearls and add them to my regimen...

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


pb4
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   Posted 5/27/2009 4:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Nope, not online, buy them at Sangsters in Calgary, 29.00 for 90 caps...78.00 is quite a rip off even if they do work well.
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quincy
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   Posted 5/27/2009 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
that's what all I've checked....I'm sure I checked Sangsters..but will do so again.

Yes, $78 is a rip off...bought them once from my nutrition store because the cost was the same elsewhere..guess it's whatever their "cost vs etc..." is.

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


princesa
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   Posted 5/28/2009 7:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree that they're definitely not all the same. They have different strains and different levels of viable organisms. Look for a brand that has independent lab tests to prove its effectiveness. The brands I've had good success with are Custom Probiotics six strain powdered blend and all of Natren's products. I'm currently taking Natren's Healthy Trinity capsules.

Unfortunately, in my experience, the ones that are effective ARE the ones that are fairly expensive. In many cases, less expensive brands use probiotic strains that don't have proven effectiveness, but sound good on the label - particularly to the untrained, average consumer. Also note that people with IBD may require much higher doses for therapeutic uses than healthy folks or those with milder digestive issues.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999. Have been in remission for years with only a few minor blips.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, vitamin D, fiber supplement and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and l-glutamine for gut healing. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free low carb diet.
 
 


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 5/28/2009 11:29 AM (GMT -6)   
I like to buy them refridgerated because most lose potency if they are not kept cold. Whole foods has a refridgerated vitamin section but the woman who works there told me they do not arrive at Whole Foods cold. I don't understand why they bother putting them in the refreidgerator if they shipped on a hot truck? I like to order from the online retailers, some ship in cold gel packs. I have been using megaflora and primal defense. I haven't noticed one being better than the other. I would like to try some others like VSL#3 but I don't want to spend a fortune on something that may or may not be helping. I haven't noticed significant improvement.
Diagnosed with mild proctitis in March 2007: Treated with Canasa (as needed)
December 08: Began treating with Asacol 400mg (9/day) + Canasa 2x/day - Anemic
May 09: Off Canasa, taking Asacol (9/day)
Back on Canasa every other night + Asacol (9/day) + Probiotics + Iron
Reducing to 6 Asacol/day + Canasa at night + Probiotics + Iron - So far so good!!!
 


shakes3
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   Posted 5/28/2009 12:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I saw a nutritionist yesterday and did some muscle and nutrient testing. I got some supplements and my probiotic one is called primal defense the brand name is Garden of Life. My nutritionist told me that this brand is from the guy who wrote the makers diet, so that's got to count for something. The only down side is I payed 80 bucks for 180 tabs. Figured it'll be a little more from a nutritionist but I checked it out online and found a place that's got them for half price right now.
Diagnosed with moderate UC left side 2005
Salofalk 3pills x 3 times daily - No effect
2006 moderate to severe UC
Prednisone 25mg daily cycled down 5mg per week
Asacol 3pills x 2 times daily, remission achieved
2009 severe pancolitis
60mg prednisone cycled down 5mg per week
Remicade 3 infusions
3grams fish oil, 2 multivitamin, 1 Glutamine, 1 B12 and folic acid, 1 Calcium and D3, 4 Probiotic
Currently at 7.5mg prednisone,


mbx5
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   Posted 5/28/2009 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
i have used garden of life... right now i am using culturelle but i am seriously considering switching back...they are expensive but i think i had better results with those.
Stats:35 yr old male. UC for 15 years.
location:North Western PA
DX: Left sided UC, most recent scope 5/20/09 UPMC Pittsburgh Presbeterian
Medications:20mg pred (as of 4/27/09), 12x pills Asacol per day, 100mg Imuran per day, 1mg Atavan per day (anxiety) when needed, 20mg paxil per day, Super-omega fish oil pills - 1x per day, Flax oil pills - 1x am, 1x pm, Culturelle probiotics - 2x am, 1x pm, Vitamin B-12 injections weekly.
Surgeries: Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland (and I am still more afraid of my UC!!)

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