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harryking
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   Posted 5/30/2009 8:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All,

Is Vitamin D Milk good for UC ers?
Will it causing some problems to our GUTS?

Appreciate if somebody can answer..

Thanks

Dr-A
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   Posted 5/30/2009 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
If you can find some good local raw milk that's good for you. Pastuerized stuff isn't too great.
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jujub
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   Posted 5/30/2009 9:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Some people with UC also have lactose intolerance, and dairy products will bother them. The vitamin D shouldn't cause any problems.

I have to disagree, I wouldn't care to drink raw milk. Milk is pasteurized for a good reason. But to each his own.
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Moderate to severe left-sided UC diagnosed 2001.
Flared for 5 years, finally in remission with Remicade since March 2006.
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Dr-A
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   Posted 5/30/2009 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Judilyn said...
Some people with UC also have lactose intolerance, and dairy products will bother them. The vitamin D shouldn't cause any problems.

I have to disagree, I wouldn't care to drink raw milk. Milk is pasteurized for a good reason. But to each his own.


Changes protein structure under high heat, killing many of the positive benefits of milk. Why so many people have problems with it.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


Old Hat
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   Posted 5/30/2009 9:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Judilyn that milk is pasteurized for good reasons, among them the fact that cows can get udder infections. As for vitamin D, the latest thinking of IBD specialist gastros/researchers is that we patients should get more of it-- because it helps to regulate the immune system & promotes absorption of calcium into our bones. You can read more about vit D needs on ccfa.org. / Old Hat (30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

Dr-A
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   Posted 5/30/2009 10:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I guess my outlook is different, lol. I was raised by a dairy farm.
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Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
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quincy
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   Posted 5/31/2009 2:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I would think that if one purchased raw milk from a very clean/reputable place it would be safe....

Regarding the vitamin D part....take supplements....D3 (cholecalciferol).

Many people are lactose intolerant...maybe raw milk or pasturised would have the same effect.  Lactase pills are also easily purchased.

q


*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


Zippy123
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   Posted 5/31/2009 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
If you can afford it, goats milk is suppose to be better.

Christine1946
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   Posted 5/31/2009 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
     Ew, yuk, goat's milk..blah!  LOL!  When flaring I use Silk.  It's a soy milk.  Tastes great.
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Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Update 11/03/08...finally in remission!!  Hope I don't jinx myself.  Off the prednisone since 11/01/08...now see if I can stay off for longer than two weeks.  Other meds: 6MP (75 mgm), colazal (6 per day), Benicar and Toprol (high blood pressure meds), Probiotic (2 per day), fish oil capsule and multi-vitamin and calcium with vitamin D.


kops2da
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   Posted 5/31/2009 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Christine - just started drinking SILK - very good.
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harryking
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   Posted 5/31/2009 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
All,

What i want to know is does Vitamin D milk contains lactose?
I'm weighing less and wanna drink Vitamin D milk for gaining weight......

Please advise...

quincy
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   Posted 5/31/2009 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Milk contains lactose. Vitamin D milk would be milk with vitamin D added.

I think that if you eat a balanced diet, consume enough calories, your weight will eventually increase. It took me years to gain my weight back.

quincy
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 5/31/2009 3:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't have a problem with milk, but I'm not lactose intolerant. People with UC who are also lactose intolerant seem to have more trouble with lactose than your average lactose-intolerant person, which is why I think you hear a lot about lactose in relation to UC.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Old Hat
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   Posted 5/31/2009 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
The fat content of the milk determines whether or not it would help you to gain weight. Whole milk has about 8 gm. fat per cup. If you are lactose intolerant, you can buy lactose-free milk in the U.S. The Lactaid brand lactose-free milk is sold as whole milk, 2% milkfat, 1% milkfat, or nonfat milk in large supermarkets where I live, and also comes in calcium-fortified varieties in each of those milkfat categories. (50% of recommended daily calcium requirement per cup.) Raising your total calorie intake daily should help you to regain weight. / Old Hat (30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

harryking
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   Posted 5/31/2009 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi OldHat,

Can you please tell me where can i find Lactose free milk in US.. I mean store names?

Thanks,

Eva Lou
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   Posted 5/31/2009 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Lactose free milk is available in every major grocery store now- they generally carry their own store brand, & the main brand, Lactaid. In all types, skim, 1%, 2%, whole milk, calcium fortified.... but really, raw milk is the way to go! It's the pasteurization that makes milk hard to digest- when raw, it's similar to yogurt, in that the living enzymes pre-digest the lactose. Plus, re. udder infections- any reputable raw milk dairy will not have those issues- they come about from cows that are heavily treated with drugs, & forced to eat grain feed in huge feed lots. Cows are ruminants- they eat grass. Not grain! The reason pasteurization gained favor is because in the commercial dairy industry, the animals are forced to live in un-sanitary conditions, prompting tons of infections. It wasn't because people were getting ill from raw milk. I'm lucky to live in a state, Massachusetts, where it's legal to buy raw milk. And the dairies that do sell it are strictly controlled by the FDA re. the health & feeding of their animals. Plus it tastes really good! Vitamin D in and of itself shouldn't cause any gastro problems. If weight gain is your intent, Vitamin D won't cause you to gain any by itself- maybe supplement with Carnation Instant Breakfast (or something like that) mixed with Vitamin fortified milk.
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Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics
Fiber supplement
 
 
 


Old Hat
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   Posted 5/31/2009 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
People were getting ill from raw milk in the U.S. BEFORE major commercialization of dairies; I heard stories from my elders about illnesses pre- & post- World War I. An uncle of mine who was used to drinking raw milk in Europe got violently sick from some he consumed in PA, purchased at a small farm. HarryKing, I don't think you'll have trouble finding Lactaid milk in NE U.S. supermarkets. I agree with Eva Lou about Mass. stores-- I have noticed when traveling there that they often stock both Lactaid & locally-bottled lactose-free milk, which is awesome!!!!! But if you reside in another part of the country, ask here on the Forum whether anyone else from your area is posting who could advise you re Lactaid suppliers. I would never take dairy items for granted as I've been unsuccessful at finding no-salt-added cottage cheese outside my region! / Old Hat (30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

AshNH
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   Posted 6/1/2009 5:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I was born in India and grew up with raw milk for years without any problems. Millions of people drink it every day and I am sure udder infection is a legitimate argument but it could also be related to freshness of milk or it not being maintained under proper condition.

Anyway, during one of their recent trips to India, my parents visited a "famous" aryuvedic doctor about treatments for UC on my behalf. Apparently, this guy had people traveling to him from throughout the country and had a long line of people looking for cure. Apparently, UC is on the uptick in India. One of his common prescription was to drink fresh, raw milk certain number of times per day. I haven't tried it though but this topic has made me think that perhaps I should.

To each their own..
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ickypoo
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   Posted 6/1/2009 6:42 AM (GMT -6)   
I think lactose and milk go together. One reason for considering raw milk is that it contains lactase and thus effectively digests itself. That is why lactose intolerant people often do well on raw milk.

If you are looking to gain weight on milk, you may need to drink quite a bit of it, depending on what else (if anything) you are eating in addition. On the days I only drink milk, I usually consume a little over a quart - but I'm not doing it to gain weight. I also do not mix it with other foods as that can inhibit digestion. Milk is best consumed by itself.

Hope that is getting to your question.
Diagnosed with UC in 1990.

Current Meds: Sulfasalizine (2 g), Rowasa (now and then), Folic Acid (1 mg)

Supplements: fish oil, flax oil, glucosamine, CoQ10, fiber, aloe vera juice, probiotics.

Other: Raw Milk for breakfast. Currently exploring a raw milk fast one day/week.


harryking
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   Posted 6/1/2009 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi AshNH,

What is Tanalbit?
Is it a medication for the UC?
How is it working for u?

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