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Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/3/2009 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
 
 
Has anyone heard of this before? Can this really be done.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1/2 X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa (I reduced this to see how my diet will effect me) and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/3/2009 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
maybe its just another person trying to sell something

Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1/2 X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa (I reduced this to see how my diet will effect me) and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Dr-A
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   Posted 6/3/2009 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I asked what spinal nerve is blocked. We shall see if I get a response.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/3/2009 3:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Sounds really fishy to me. As far as I know, nothing can get rid of a virus except the body's immune system.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/3/2009 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hmmmm!! Could be someone trying it on

Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1/2 X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa (I reduced this to see how my diet will effect me) and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Dr-A
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   Posted 6/3/2009 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Took a little more time to read over the page, since they really grabbed my attention with the nerve blocked theory. This is of course my specialty, lol.

Reading on initially,

"The cause of Ulcerative Colitis, Crohn’s disease and other inflammatory gut conditions has been unraveled by Ray Lala who after treating 40,000 patients over a 20 year period discovered all patients with Ulcerative Colitis and Crohn’s disease had a spinal nerve blocked to the immune system and the gut system."

BUT..... what they are selling as a treatment:

"Back To Health Minerals for Ulcerative Colitis and Crohn’s Disease

The course of minerals that has been perfected and shown in documental cases to remove the virus that causes Ulcerative Colitis is a TWO STEP PROCESS:"



So, we have the theory of cause being blocked nerve to immune system (which is bogus to start with, because they're so many different nerves that contribute to immune function), and blocked gut nerves (which are many through lower thoracic/lumbar/sacral vertebrae).

To cure this they are removing the viruses that were created in the cells as a result of the blocked nerves.

Again, treatment of symptom and not addressing his own theoretical cause, lol.


There is a satisfaction guarantee picture, but nothing listed in the web page on it.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/3/2009 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, that's exactly why I thought it was fishy...how can a virus be "created" because of blocked nerves?
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Dr-A
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   Posted 6/3/2009 4:52 PM (GMT -6)   
So, I dug more:

5. Money Back Guarantee

5.1 Subject to your strict adherence to the detox instructions provided with the product, Resolve shall reimburse you the purchase price of the product upon receiving proof that:

(a) Prior to the taking of the product you were infected with the Colitis virus
; and

(b) Within 90 days of completing Step 3 of the detox, the Colitis virus has not been displaced from your system.

5.2 For the purposes of proving that you had the Colitis virus prior to and post completion of the detox, Resolve requires you to provide it with pre and post detox blood tests from governmental approved laboratories which shows the Colitis virus remains in your system. The name and details contained on these tests needs to match exact with your details contained on your order.

5.3 The post blood test must be taken prior within 90 days of completion of Step 3 of the detox. Please note it is Resolve’s goal to work with you to make you virus free. There are possible explanations as to why you may test positive. Resolve shall work with you until you test negative. A supplementary detox will be given to eliminate any factors Resolve may deem relevant to your testing positive.

5.4 Resolve reserves the right to revoke or change this money back guarantee at any time without notice.



I don't have to say anything, you guys aleady know.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/3/2009 4:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd loooooove to ask them to provide the name of a lab that tests for the "Colitis virus." hahahahahahaha
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


RH_Texas_Gal
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   Posted 6/3/2009 9:14 PM (GMT -6)   
No one really knows how UC starts and I personally believe that a non-specific viral infection I had 8 years ago (mimicked mono) kickstarted the process for me ... however, I think that website is a bunch of hooey ... unfortunately someone at the end of their rope will shell out hundreds of dollars ...

Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/4/2009 3:41 AM (GMT -6)   
True!! i also beleive a virus I had caused my CU. I had a weird virus when I was 24. It lasted about 6 months and I never really felt the same after. It made me lose a lot of weight even though I was eating a lot. My friends thought I had worms as I was skinny but eating loads. It took me about 3 months to get back to 7stone. Crazy.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1/2 X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa (I reduced this to see how my diet will effect me) and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/4/2009 3:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I also felt that they could harm someone as the ingredients in these minerals contain caffeine which is something people with UC should avoid. Why the hell would thy put caffeine in it.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1/2 X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa (I reduced this to see how my diet will effect me) and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Eva Lou
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   Posted 6/4/2009 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
what the heck is the "colitis virus"???? If only it were that easy. What a load of crap, a blocked spinal nerve....... Well, anyone who buys into this junk most definitely has a blocked brain nerve!
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- since 4/07
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics
Fiber supplement
 
 
 


Zippy123
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   Posted 6/4/2009 8:59 AM (GMT -6)   
There is no such thing as one nerve controlling the entire immune system, unless they mean it in a figurative way. I do however see a virus as a possible cause to chronic and unknown illnesses if it is buried into our cells. I would be very skeptical of this websites info. If anyone wants to try it and it works, let us know.

Dr-A
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   Posted 6/4/2009 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
They actually answer the emails pretty quick. Although not many actual answers.

As to my email on what specific nerve is blocked:

____________________________________

Usually it is the nerve to the immune system. You can have success with the detox without the nerve being released.

You need to stay on any current medication while taking the mineral detox as you may experience a flare up of your condition as the minerals are pushing the virus out of your system. Your body will go threw a healing clearing process and over the follow 3 months you can still experience symptoms of your condition for 6 weeks after completion of the detox.
You will then slowly wean yourself off your medication. If you are still feeling a lot of pain and inflammation at 6 weeks let us know and we would send you a follow up detox. We work with all our clients to ensure they resolve their condition.

Thank You
Resolve Team
Resolve All Ltd

______________________________________________
Follow up email from me:

Hello,


Being a chiropractor and being able to name and dissect every nerve in the body I am just curious which nerve is in charge of the immune system? Also, which nerve is blocking the gut? I know this stuff, just think if you are promoting it you should really be able to answer that question, lol. Should also be able to address promoting to cure UC caused by a blocked nerve which allowed the virus into the body, but you only address the virus. Blocked nerve still there, so you are only addressing a symptom and not the true cause. This is contradictory on your page.

Looking on the gaurantee listed, you have to have blood tests pre and post taking the minerals. I actually do blood work every 4 weeks so that is fine. The problem with your gaurantee is there is no blood test that identifies the UC virus available, because it is non-existent. So, there's really no gaurantee to this product according to the terms of agreement. If there is just let me know, so I can let everyone else in the US know too.

Just a few large inconsistencies that this company should re-evaluate.

Good Luck,

Dr. Aaron Workman

_______________________________________________

Response:

There is a detailed book which will be released from the creator of the product. He is a special spinal alignment technique which will be covered indepthly in the book which will give you all the answer as to what nerves are being referred to. The minerals will eliminate the virus without the spine needing to be in place. The true cause is the virus in the gut not everyone who has a blocked nerve in the immune system has UC it was discovered that a lot of people who didn't have such strong immune systems did have UC. The book will explain all this in detail.
With UC they symptoms disappear and you simply get better. It is a long process but worth while one. You will not be able to truly understand the process until you experience the detox yourself.

We have no inconsistencies just information that some people can get their heads around.


Thank You
Resolve Team
Resolve All Ltd





Didn't address my gaurantee question so I emailed that back. Really no answer to anything else either. It would be better to just say, "Hey, we don't really know what this does but it helps some people with UC." I can get my head around that more than all this jibberish, lol.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/4/2009 11:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow, what a load of hooey. I think it's hilarious they didn't tell you how to get tested for the "UC virus."

Also, if UC were caused by a virus, it would be contagious. I think we can all agree it most certainly isn't contagious! :)
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/4/2009 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
TRue I did think that about the contagious thing. There is alot of crap out there. Im still wondering why they added caffiene. It sounds more harmful.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/4/2009 12:01 PM (GMT -6)   
My guess is that the caffeine is to provide a bit of pep to make you think you're feeling better.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


jujub
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   Posted 6/4/2009 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
They added caffeine because it's a mild "upper" and tends to make people feel more alert and energetic. That fools some into believing the snake oil is working.

I'm always amazed at the number of people willing to stoop to making money off the misery of others.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC diagnosed 2001.
Flared for 5 years, finally in remission with Remicade since March 2006.
Avascular necrosis in both shoulders is my "forever" gift from steroids.
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri. 
"My life is an ongoing medical adventure"
 
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fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/4/2009 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, Judy, that makes me really angry too.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/4/2009 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I guess they cannot be sued if they worsen the UC. Some of us are really sensitive to caffiene. I stopped drinking coffee and tea. Im better for it.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Hellokitty
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   Posted 6/4/2009 12:36 PM (GMT -6)   
If I find any more goingings on I will let people know.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication- 1X 500mg pentasa in the morrning= 250g pentasa and 1 X250g Asacol every other evening
Diet- Tried raw food diet with 80% raw foods, found some pro's and cons. Started to add more products to keep up weight as mine did not balance. Still eating raw spinage and still am combination eating. No dairy No gluten.  
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity


Dr-A
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   Posted 6/4/2009 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Again asking for blood test info:
_________________________

If I am going to take a blood test for a virus I need to know what test to take as stated in your policy. If I don't test positive for it to start with there is no need for the detox. Pretty basic question I suppose since you say I need this specific test.


Thank you

Aaron Workman
_
_________________________

We told you that there is no blood test for Colitis if you have HSV then you can take the western blot blood test.

Thank You Resolve Team
_________________________


Actually they never mentioned there was no blood test. According to their gaurantee policy there is so I shoot this question back. I must say I am suprised to actually be getting answers, but I guess since I mentioned we are discussing this in a large UC forum they decided to give as many non-answers as possible, lol.


___________________________________

Do you realize this is on your website ( 5.2 below)? I need to know what test this is. I have an appointment in 3 weeks with the GI doc so I can go ahead and get it done then.


5.2 For the purposes of proving that you had the Colitis virus prior to and post completion of the detox, Resolve requires you to provide it with pre and post detox blood tests from governmental approved laboratories which shows the Colitis virus remains in your system. The name and details contained on these tests needs to match exact with your details contained on your order.


Thank You,


Aaron Workman
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/4/2009 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, they're so full of sh!t that they can't even keep their story straight!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa every other night, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Eva Lou
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   Posted 6/4/2009 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
HSV is herpes simplex virus- is that what they're talking about??? Weird! Western Blot is a type of testing technique, it's not a test for a specific virus or anything. It tests for lots of things. It's the first thing they do for an HIV test, actually- if it comes back + then they do an ELISA. (I used to do HIV testing & counseling). I love that you're bugging them Dr. A- keep it up, let us know what they say! unreal.

diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- since 4/07
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics
Fiber supplement
 
 
 

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