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herbalgerbals
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   Posted 6/6/2009 12:48 PM (GMT -6)   
So what REally hit me the other day, is our adrenal glands.. these are what produce the needed substances to fight inflammation right??

Well, I called a naturpath yesterday, and they made it clear, they will be targeting my adrenal strength,
So, with that said..


can anyone help me find some information on supplements, herbs, foods, etc. that may strengthen our adrenal glands, and maybe create an impact on it so it produces more, basically like prednisone does, without the negetive side effects?

does anyone have thoughts on this or experience etc. thanks people.

Cfromutah
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   Posted 6/6/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
pantothenic acid(vitamin b-5) is essential for the bodies manufacture of adrenal hormones. sunflower seeds are loaded with it. avocados have a fair amount too.
Myself and others on this forum have gone into remission on a high spinach and sunflower seed diet.

Christine1946
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   Posted 6/6/2009 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
     I have no idea what supports adrenal glands but I know for a fact that I cannot eat sunflower seeds.  They do a number on my colon.
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Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
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herbalgerbals
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   Posted 6/7/2009 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I will keep researching this.. but it makes sense, I mean thats why they give us prednisone, to make our bodies produce more to fight the inflammation...
Balance is Key. Nature Intended.
Eat for Optimal Digestion.
Fruit. Vegetables. Meat.
Veggie Juice, Coconut Water.
Raw Honey, Raw Bee Pollen.
90% Raw. 10% Cooked.
5% Fat. 10% Protein.

Food Combining.
6mp. Colazal.
Oxycontin.


Cfromutah
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   Posted 6/7/2009 4:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah its been one of my theories too.

fruitgirl
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   Posted 6/7/2009 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe that's why the avocado seemed to help me get back to normal after I had a bout of food poisoning, which I got just as I was tapering off of pred. Who knows...I'm not going to complain if I have to eat avocado, that's for sure! :)
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Dr-A
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   Posted 6/7/2009 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Perque adreno distress guard. Perque has great products to target certain organs.
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herbalgerbals
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   Posted 6/7/2009 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I love avocado.. I make a delicious guac dish. =] I must admit.
Balance is Key. Nature Intended.
Eat for Optimal Digestion.
Fruit. Vegetables. Meat.
Veggie Juice, Coconut Water.
Raw Honey, Raw Bee Pollen.
90% Raw. 10% Cooked.
5% Fat. 10% Protein.

Food Combining.
6mp. Colazal.
Oxycontin.


PrednisoneJunkie
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   Posted 6/8/2009 1:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Adrenalin, huh? So... can we just watch a lot of action movies and listen to metal music?
27 / Male
UC Diagnosis May 2003
Survived 9 flares
Used prednisone, asacol 6/day
Alternatives: have successfully tamed 1 flare and counting without prednisone with massive doses of probiotic (along with asacol)
Diet: paleolithic (but I often cheat), non-smoker, non-drinker
Other problems: Childhood asthma


Cfromutah
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   Posted 6/8/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
who said anything about adrenalin? its called cortisol, a substance in the body that prednisone mimics.

doors12
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   Posted 6/8/2009 10:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I saw a natural med guy/chiro here who let me know about this and tried to put me on DHEA, Pregnenolone, and a few other things. I kind of chickened out and let it fall through. Look up "Hypoadrenia," I even bought a book that seems pretty thorough called "Adrenal Fatigue" by J. Wilson. Bought it on Amazon.

I do think there is something to this. For me, I fairly doubt it is a causative factor behind my UC, but I wouldn't be surprised if it interacts with something that is a causative factor. You bring up a good point, I think the adrenals, or is it cortisol, that acts as an anti-inflammatory like a steroid. I am more interested in how the HPA axis interacts with hormones like prolactin, but I get in over my head quick with the information. Growing up and in college, especially when hungover, I KNOW I am hypoadrenic. I can actually feel the sensation in my kidneys, black out when standing up etc. Well, I had discovered long before I had/knew I had UC, that taking an OTC cold pill made me feel WAY better, very QUICKLY. Also, eating spicy foods and other things that increase adrenaline I assume.

Sometimes with UC, even without drinking, I get the same sensation. I know it is hypoadrenic. So I have started doing things like drinking more vitamin C - I think it helps the adrenals (got that from the book I mentioned). The naturopath also wants me to start eating something for breakfast (besides my cigarettes and Mountain Dew - hey I'm really fatigued you guys know how this is).

Thanks for posting and I hope we get some contributors to the thread - I really believe there is something to this. And I mean even something more than the fact that anyone living with a chronic illness is likely to be hypoadrenic, as chronic illness is a major stressor on the body, hence the stress hormones.


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~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
(Generic Balsalazide not as effective for me)
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
I hate Ulcerative Colitis and can't wait till we eradicate it
 


herbalgerbals
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   Posted 6/9/2009 12:02 AM (GMT -6)   
WEll I jus tfigure we could use supplements and foods that raise the adrenal function and mimic prednisone symptom free, if that makes sense?
Cus prednisone to my knowledge just causes our adrenal glands to produce more cortisol right? or whatever its called.. wich is what reduces out inflammation.. there has to be somthing behind this.. Im going to check ou tthe medical journals and such at the library and try to take some notes on it!

Basically my idea is to replace prednisone with foods and supplements to raise the adrenal glands in producing cortisol.
=]
Balance is Key. Nature Intended.
Eat for Optimal Digestion.
Fruit. Vegetables. Meat.
Veggie Juice, Coconut Water.
Raw Honey, Raw Bee Pollen.
90% Raw. 10% Cooked.
5% Fat. 10% Protein.

Food Combining.
6mp. Colazal.
Oxycontin.


Cfromutah
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   Posted 6/9/2009 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Cortisol levels are tightly regulated in the body so you probably are not going to get it higher than normal no matter what you do unless you are taking pred. Pred does not cause the body to release more cortisol. Pred is similar in chemical structure to natural cortisol so it acts the same in the body. When the body sees its getting more cortisol from pred the body actually produces less because of the tight regulation. That's why people need to wean off pred is because the body is producing less cortisol on pred and you need wean off it so the body can recognize that levels are dropping and start producing more on its own. Otherwise if you wean of it too fast or quit cold turkey it will leave the body deficient in cortisol and cause lots of problems. With all that said. If your body is deficient in the proper nutrients it needs to manufacture adrenal hormones such as cortisol then ingesting the right nutrients will probably work to raise cortisol levels . Because the body is trying to raise cortisol to normal levels but it cant because the building block nutrients to manufacture it aren't available.

ANTIGUA9
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   Posted 6/13/2009 4:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Through some research on adrenal fatigue, I've read that the adrenal glands need vitamin c.  The recommended dosage is 2000 iu/day.  If you have trouble with the capsules, my accupuncturist said the emergen-C brand is easier on the intestines.  Also you need enough collagen as it is a precursor to vitamin C.  The liquid form is best (though it doesn't taste very good).  Also, my dr. put me on 25 mg of DHEA a day because if your adrenal glands aren't working right, it throws off all your sex hormones (progesterone, aldosterone, testosterone, estrogen) which causes a person to feel worse.   And rest.  Rest, rest, rest is the best thing you can do to repair your adrenal glands.  The prednisone really does a number on adrenal glands and it takes a while for them to start functioning "normally" again.  I've been off Prednisone for 14 months and my cortisol levels are still low, but improving with the help of the DHEA supplements and high dose vitamin C.   

mbx5
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   Posted 6/13/2009 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had some endocrine issues related to my pituitary gland...I had a tumor removed a few years ago...the doc seemed to think it could have been there for a very long time...it was called a prolactinoma... It caused my pituitary gland to produce very high levels of prolactin in my body - I was in the 300 range, which is about where a lactating mother should be - and I am a dude!! It all about diminished my testosterone levels.... A simple blood test and MRI found it. I feel very strongly that this is what could have triggered my UC... I feel that the high levels of prolactin caused other issues possibly with my adrenal glands, etc. that could have lead to a trigger...not 100% sure, but I have a strong hunch..

From what I understand when taking prednisone the adrenal glands stop making it naturally....apparently the body makes about 7.5mg a day...when tapering off, you have to be very careful at low levels so that your adrenal glands can start making it on its own and you are not without it at all...
Stats:35 yr old male. UC for 15 years.
location:North Western PA
DX: Left sided UC, most recent scope 5/20/09 UPMC Pittsburgh Presbeterian
Medications:20mg pred (as of 4/27/09), 12x pills Asacol per day, 100mg Imuran per day, 1mg Atavan per day (anxiety) when needed, 20mg paxil per day, Super-omega fish oil pills - 1x per day, Flax oil pills - 1x am, 1x pm, Culturelle probiotics - 2x am, 1x pm, Vitamin B-12 injections weekly.
Surgeries: Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland (and I am still more afraid of my UC!!)

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