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pb4
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   Posted 6/9/2009 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I noticed in your tag line that you use bee pollen, I used to use it as well but found bee propolis quite a bit more effective with stopping my bleeding, cutting back my 30+/day BM's I was having at the time to 15 BM's the next day after taking it, also completely stopping my lower back pain which I would get with every bowel movement, it also helped bulk up my stools, it also cut my mucus way back as well, then I added fibre supplements as suggested by my GI and that improved things even more in conjunction with the bee propolis...I also take omegas 3-6-9, vitamins C-Calcium Ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A, altered my diet as I mentioned in the other post about "sugar in fruit" and exercise on a regular basis as well, and although I'm still flaring to some degree (I have complications with my IBD) I'm only going 5 or less times a day on average (there are the odd days when it's more but that's hormone related), no bleeding, no pain, no mucus and with formed stools.
 
Just thought I'd share since I notice you use some of the same types of things I use as well.
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


herbalgerbals
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Date Joined Feb 2009
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   Posted 6/9/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
bee propolis, what is the difference between that and pollen? Ive googled it but I didnt really get a proper answer..

I usually have 2 or 3 bowel movements a day, no blood or mucus..

but I am still on prednsione waiting to see how the 6mp works.. and colazal,

I do get abomdinal discomfort tho, depending on what I eat etc. but my diet is pretty strict, and I dont crave other things really, Im just trying to get by and take care of myself.. Im planning on seeing a naturpathic doctor soon too.

Also, as far as omego 6 goes, its pro-inflammatory, Ive actually not noticed any positive effects with omega fatty acids, as they all seem to be hard to digest( I have problem digesting fat) so I just kinda avoid it. you dont notice any discomfort?
Balance is Key. Nature Intended.
Eat for Optimal Digestion.
Fruit. Vegetables. Meat.
Veggie Juice, Coconut Water.
Raw Honey, Raw Bee Pollen.
90% Raw. 10% Cooked.
5% Fat. 10% Protein.

Food Combining.
6mp. Colazal.
Oxycontin.


pb4
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   Posted 6/9/2009 5:45 PM (GMT -6)   
No, Bee Pollen and Bee Propolis are entirely different nutrients. Basically, the pollen is what's used to make honey (so it helps with energy), but the Propolis is basically the glue that makes up parts of the hive.

Pollen is considered an energy and nutritive tonic in Chinese medicine. Cultures throughout the world use it in a surprising number of applications: for improving endurance and vitality, extending longevity, aiding recovery from chronic illness, adding weight during convalescence, reducing cravings and addictions, regulating the intestines, building new blood, preventing infectious diseases such as the cold and flue (it has antibiotic type properties), and helping overcome retardation and other developmental problems in children. It is thought to protect against radiation and to have anti-cancer qualities.

Propolis is another medicinal marvel from the beehive. Research shows it offers antiseptic, antibiotic, antibacterial, antifungal, and even antiviral properties. Propolis is Nature's premiere preventive. It is so powerful in action, it is often called Russian penicillin in acknowledgement of the extensive research the Russians have mounted on this wonder worker from the bees. Propolis demonstrates strong antimicrobial properties against various bacterial and fungal infestations. Even streptococcus bacteria have been shown sensitive to propolis.


Propolis has been justly called Nature's premier preventive. The immune system is supported and strengthened by the ingestion of propolis. Modern scientific studies indicate that those who take propolis regularly escape winter colds and sore throats and seem to develop a natural immunity to common viruses, including the various strains of flu.
Chemical antibiotics destroy all bacteria in the body, both the friendly, (necessary flora required for healthy functioning in the entire gastrointestinal tract) and the bad intestinal flora. An individual who constantly takes prescribed antibiotics for one condition after another soon learns that the drugs may no longer work as well as they once did. As invading bacteria get "smarter," the drugs become less and less effective.

Propolis, the natural antibiotic, works against harmful bacteria without destroying the friendly bacteria the body needs. Propolis has also been proven effective against strains of bacteria that resist chemical antibiotics.
The field of influence of propolis is extremely broad. It includes cancer, infection of the urinary tract, swelling of the throat, gout, open wounds, sinus congestion, colds, influenza, bronchitis, gastritis, diseases of the ears, periodontal disease, intestinal infections, ulcers, eczema eruptions, pneumonia, arthritis, lung disease, stomach virus, headaches, Parkinson's disease, bile infections, sclerosis, circulation deficiencies, warts, conjunctivitis, and hoarseness.
Propolis helps regulate hormones and is an antibiotic substance that stimulates the natural resistance of the body. Propolis can be used by everyone, sick or healthy, as a means of protection against microorganisms. Propolis is also efficient against conditions caused by bacteria, viruses, or different fungi. Propolis aids many diseases because it is a special natural substance with strong effect.

Omegas 3-6-9 don't bother me at all, I don't get the "fishy burps" others say they do either, mind you it's possible that the reason being is I always drink lots of water when I take it and I take it the same time I take my other naturals that I use.
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

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