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subdued
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   Posted Yesterday 12:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I just got another bladder infection, and I really, really, really don't want to to take antibiotics again. I found some natural remedies for bladder infections on the Internet. I'm going to give it a try. If I don't see any improvement in 24 hours, then it's back to the doctor :(
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins, Anti-inflammatory foods, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners -- Fecal transplantation worked, Prednisone stopped working, Colazal stopped working, Asacol stopped working


fruitgirl
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   Posted Yesterday 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Uuuugh, that sucks. Do you know what's causing them?
Good luck with your natural remedy. What is it, by the way?
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).


subdued
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   Posted Yesterday 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
fruitgirl said...
Uuuugh, that sucks. Do you know what's causing them?
Good luck with your natural remedy. What is it, by the way?


Yah. I know why I get them. It's sex related. I went to LA for a week, and when I came back it was sex, sex, and more sex with my boyfriend. I used to get them even more when we were using spermicide.

I haven't had time to look into this, but I read that foods that contain sulfur (Asparagus, spinach, cashews/almonds, Rhubarb, dark greens, baking soda/Seltzer, etc.) and acid (Cranberries, Lemons, Rhubarb, Blueberries, etc.) are good for getting rid of bladder infections.

I'm drinking lots of water with lemon added and taking cranberry supplements, vitamin C, and probiotics. I'm also eating spinach. I have to go to the food store to buy some nuts (cashews or almonds) and parsley to make parsley leaf tea.

I read that apple cider vinegar and alka seltzer are good for fighting off bladder infections. However, I can't drink apple cider due to being fructose intolerant, and I'm not sure how alka seltzer will affect my digestive system.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins, Anti-inflammatory foods, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners -- Fecal transplantation worked, Prednisone stopped working, Colazal stopped working, Asacol stopped working


fruitgirl
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   Posted Yesterday 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, that's what kept causing my repeating UTIs. My doc finally prescribed me macrobid, and I take one pill after intercourse. I've been doing it for about four years now, and haven't had a UTI since. It doesn't seem to affect my UC at all, but you do have the proven history of problems with antibiotics. I sometimes think I should quit taking the antibiotic, but I'm afraid that the first time I don't do it, I'll get a UTI and have to go on a course of them, which would be more likely to upset the apple cart, so to speak.

I've only heard that things like cranberry can prevent UTIs, not get rid of them (and this info in coming from a presentation I saw on someone who does research on UTIs and cranberry).

Do you urinate before and after sex? That's supposed to help. Maybe you could talk your boyfriend into both of you washing the "important" areas prior to sex. Maybe that would help keep the bacteria from creeping up where they don't belong.
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).


quincy
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   Posted Yesterday 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Here's what you could try firstly.....have water with baking soda in it for part of a day...drink lots of water.
It changes the ph level since urine is more acid than neutral which enables the bacteria to not thrive as easily.

I don't think vitamin C is the key...more so is the cranberry tea or juice or supplements.

It might not be that you have an actual infection.....have you had it checked out for sure? Sometimes an irritated bladder can give the "impression" of an infection. Has a bladder scope bee done to make sure nothing else is going on?

I know you've had a bladder infection recently as well...but I went through a stint where I was sure I had the infections, but some were positive, others not. The doc was concerned it was something else....and I had a bladder scope done . The doc was checking for interstitial cystitis...which was negative, whew. Once the bladder scope was done...all the infections/irritations stopped.

Now, in saying that....I was going through a lot of hormonal ups and downs and had endometriosis....eventually had a hysterectomy..another whew.

Keep us posted as to how you're doing.

Oh, asparagus will cloud the urine, and stink like ugh! but if it's good for bladder stuff...go for it. I'd eat a ton of it..my fave food ever!

quincy
*Heather* Status: maintenance Asacol 6 daily + Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted Yesterday 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
As a follow-up on cranberry, it works because a substance in it prevents bacteria from adhering to the membrane in the urinary tract...nothing to do with pH, etc.
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).


burnabygirl
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   Posted Yesterday 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I had UTI suddenly last week. I drank 3 glasses of pure cranberry juice within 6 hours and felt much better the next day. I got the cranberry juice from Costco.
I had UTI 2-3 times in the past couple of years and every time it's cranberry juice alone which took the symptoms away. BTW, it's my family doctor who asked me to drink cranberry juice for my UTI.
Ulcerative proctitis diagnosed in July 2006. Medications: Salofalk enema nightly.
Remission from Nov 2006 to Oct 2007. Then a bad cold and a bad flare for 1 year till Nov 2008.
Pancolitis diagnosed in April 2008. Current medications: Salofalk enema, Salofalk suppositories, Salofalk tablets 1000mg x 3/day, Entocort enema (tapering).
Supplements: Calcium with Vitamin D, Vitamin B Complex, Vitamin C and psyllium capsules (Metamucil).


quincy
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   Posted Yesterday 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
right....I remember reading that in a magazine not that long ago...I'd forgotten.

So it sort of keeps the bacteria more "free flowing"?

I also remember reading that cranberry isn't necessarily acidic...?

The baking soda first then cranberry would be a good plan....

But if one has a solid infection...I would think thatit should be checked out, for one wouldn't want it to travel up to create a kidney infection.

q
*Heather* Status: maintenance Asacol 6 daily + Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


Christine1946
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   Posted Yesterday 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   
     Not to alarm you but only a word to the wise.  Please be careful with bladder infections.  I had a dear friend who suffered with Crohn's Disease for over 20 yrs.  Because of her prednisone use over the course of that time and the development of Addison's Disease (because she took herself off the prednisone cold turkey), her immune system was very compromised.  Over the Christmas holidays of 2005 she suffered a bladder infection which quickly spread to her kidneys.  She died a week later of sepsis.  So Please Please, keep a close eye on such things.  By the way, she was only 58 yrs old.
62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Meds as of June 09: Colazal (6 per day), 6MP (50 mgm), Probiotic (upped to 3 per day), Fish oil capsule, calcium, multivitamin, Cort enema nightly, Canasa in morning.  Also taking Benicar and Toprol to control high blood pressure.  Getting old is a b****.


lambkins
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   Posted Yesterday 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
cranberry juice is very good for bladder infection also if you can lemon barley water or just plain water  but lots of it to help flush away the infection but do see your dr if it last more than 3 days
  
  Diagnosed 22.5.08 with Lft sided U/C
  Meds Predfoam 20mg 2x day stopped started pentasa supps 1gm 26/6/08
 Asacol 800mg x2 twice daily
  Domperidone 10mg as needed
  co codamol 30/500 x2 when needed
  Asacol foam 2g nightly 19/3/09
  Prednisone 60mg 19/3/09 tappering after2wks


subdued
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   Posted Yesterday 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
It might not be that you have an actual infection.....have you had it checked out for sure? Sometimes an irritated bladder can give the "impression" of an infection. Has a bladder scope bee done to make sure nothing else is going on?


I bought a few UTI home screening tests from the drug store. Yah. It's a bladder infection.

It doesn't seem to be as bad as it was last night. It doesn't hurt as much when I pee.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins, Anti-inflammatory foods, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners -- Fecal transplantation worked, Prednisone stopped working, Colazal stopped working, Asacol stopped working


subdued
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   Posted Yesterday 6:24 PM (GMT -6)   
burnabygirl said...
I had UTI suddenly last week. I drank 3 glasses of pure cranberry juice within 6 hours and felt much better the next day. I got the cranberry juice from Costco.
I had UTI 2-3 times in the past couple of years and every time it's cranberry juice alone which took the symptoms away. BTW, it's my family doctor who asked me to drink cranberry juice for my UTI.


Same here. The last time I saw a doctor for a bladder infection, he mentioned drinking lots of cranberry juice. I've already been taking cranberry supplements with immune boosting vitamin C to prevent getting a bladder infection. So I doubled my dosage now that I one.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins, Anti-inflammatory foods, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners -- Fecal transplantation worked, Prednisone stopped working, Colazal stopped working, Asacol stopped working

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subdued
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   Posted Yesterday 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Christine1946 said...
Not to alarm you but only a word to the wise. Please be careful with bladder infections. I had a dear friend who suffered with Crohn's Disease for over 20 yrs. Because of her prednisone use over the course of that time and the development of Addison's Disease (because she took herself off the prednisone cold turkey), her immune system was very compromised. Over the Christmas holidays of 2005 she suffered a bladder infection which quickly spread to her kidneys. She died a week later of sepsis. So Please Please, keep a close eye on such things. By the way, she was only 58 yrs old.


Yah. Bladder infections can be dangerous. I usually see a doctor the moment I show signs of having one. I'm just so tired of having to take antibiotics and then getting colitis flareups due to having taken the antibiotics. I also read that taking antibiotics for bladder infections makes one more susceptible to getting them again. I don't know how accurate this info is though.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins, Anti-inflammatory foods, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners -- Fecal transplantation worked, Prednisone stopped working, Colazal stopped working, Asacol stopped working


subdued
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   Posted Today 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
fruitgirl said...
Do you urinate before and after sex? That's supposed to help. Maybe you could talk your boyfriend into both of you washing the "important" areas prior to sex. Maybe that would help keep the bacteria from creeping up where they don't belong.


Yah. My ex used to take his shower before going to bed. My current boyfriend takes his in the morning. I think it makes a huge difference. I never had any issues of bladder infections with my ex.

I'll have to try peeing after sex. I usually don't do that.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins, Anti-inflammatory foods, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners -- Fecal transplantation worked, Prednisone stopped working, Colazal stopped working, Asacol stopped working


fruitgirl
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   Posted Today 1:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Ahhh, definitely recommed peeing afterward! It works for most women. It didn't work for me, though, because my bladder doesn't empty completely when I urinate. I found out b/c my GP referred my to a urologist after I'd had my fourth UTI in like siz months. It's not enought that there's any reason to worry or anything, and nothing can really be done for it, but that's why I'm so prone to them.
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).

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