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kate22
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   Posted 7/18/2009 7:06 PM (GMT -6)   
for that sunflower seed and spinach diet, does one have to consume them at the same time???  what has best worked for everyone???
UC since 1994
4 Lialda/day, 15 mg prednisone and tapering (down from 40 mg), rowasa, folic acid, VSL#3, flax oil, vegetarian diet


Cfromutah
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   Posted 7/18/2009 10:05 PM (GMT -6)   
a lot of the people that were being helped or in remission from the diet have seemed to disappear from the forum. You don't need to eat them together. I would try to eat a few handfuls of sunflower seeds nearly every day and eat spinach every few days and see how you do. I have been in remission for years doing this with no medications or supplements.

kate22
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   Posted 7/18/2009 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
wow, i hope that i get the same great results as you do!!!  i have been eating spinach, but just today added the sunflower butter.  thanks for the info!  i pray it works for me too.

UC since 1994
4 Lialda/day, 15 mg prednisone and tapering (down from 40 mg), rowasa, folic acid, VSL#3, flax oil, vegetarian diet


Helenymelany
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   Posted 7/20/2009 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there, I saw the old sunflower seed & spinach post a few days ago too and started it straight away. I noticed a difference in my BM's immediately, being more formed and less blood.
I understood it to be a few spoons of sunbutter everyday and a block of frozen spinach everyday, and it is the way they work in conjunction with each other, so I try to eat mine within a few hours of each other.
I make my own sunbutter in a blender adding flaxseed oil a little salt and manuka honey - it is divine!
I am having a little setback today so will use an asacol enema tonight but will stay on this diet for the long run, so keep me posted if you are doing it too...
 
turn  
Diagnosed with Proctitis UC in Jan 2007 but never realised the seriousness of it....given Pentasa suppositories.....Nov/Dec 2008 very ill - thought it was food poisoning so was prescribed antibiotics twice then ended up in Hospital for 11 days on IV Steroids tapering off with Prednisolone Pancolitis now diagnosed!....another flare in April hospitalised for 12 days put onto Azathioprine and the prednisolone which has now finished. Hooray!
 
Presently Daily - Pentasa 4 tablets am & pm - 100mg Azathiprine - Asacol enema when needed
 
Alternatively I take a herbal tincture created for me by the Archway Clinic of Herbal Medicine which is great - I am taking a homeopathic treatment - Aloe Vera tablets - Slippery Elm tablets - Echinachia tablets - Floradix Herbal Iron Tonic - Royal Jelly
 


jewelknit
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   Posted 7/20/2009 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Never heard of spinach and sunflower seeds . I have ulcerative proctitis and have been in a flare-up for 6 months. Have been on so many meds and just started 6MP. Tell me about this diet. Thanks.

Rio in Maryland
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   Posted 7/20/2009 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Jewelknit, here's a link to a previous discussion on it that should give you more info.

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=1380262
Rio, 33 year old male. Diagnosed with UC in 2006
100 mg Azathioprine (stopped), 4800 mg Asacol
VSL#3 & Primadophilus Bifidus, Metamucil
Vitamin E enema or Asacol suppository occasionally


UC Fighter
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   Posted 7/20/2009 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm going to do it to.
 Current Rx:
30mg Prednisone / day
4 asacol 4x/day
Mesalamine Enemas (nightly)
1 Fish Oil 2x/day
1 Acidophilous 2x/day
 


Zippy123
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   Posted 7/21/2009 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Cfromutah said...
a lot of the people that were being helped or in remission from the diet have seemed to disappear from the forum. You don't need to eat them together. I would try to eat a few handfuls of sunflower seeds nearly every day and eat spinach every few days and see how you do. I have been in remission for years doing this with no medications or supplements.


Cfromutah,

Is there anything else you do on your diet, as in do you avoid eating certain foods as well or take any supplements?

kate22
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   Posted 7/21/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
i think the deal with the diet is to eat other things too, but just include spinach and sunflower seeds in your diet everyday.  i cannot do seeds, so i am using sunbutter.  if you are flaring, i would especially reccommend using the sunbutter instead of the seeds.  i had been eating spinach daily before trying this diet, but have noticed some improvement once i added the sunbutter to my diet.

UC since 1994
4 Lialda/day, 15 mg prednisone and tapering (down from 40 mg), rowasa, folic acid, VSL#3, flax oil, vegetarian diet


sore_guts
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   Posted 7/24/2009 4:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been doing the spinach/sunflower thing for quite awhile.  I've last track of time - I think just over a year.  It has been great.  Its been the only thing to get me in remission since having UC.  I haven't been around the boards in awhile because I've been busy living life again.  For me, I need the sunflower seeds more often than spinach.  I eat spinach about 2 times a week and sunflower seeds every other day or so.  Although in the beginning I needed both more often.  I am so happy to be symptom free thanls to finding this.
 sore_guts
 
Currently in Remission since June 2008!! Backed off to far from spinach/seed diet and started flaring again :(
 
High magnesium/ beta carotene diet
37 year old female with left-sided UC
lialda 1 pill  3 2 times/day
Digestive Advantage Colitis formula 1/day
 
 


Cfromutah
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   Posted 7/26/2009 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Zippy123, I try to eat a fairly healthy balanced diet but I'm not on any kind of strict diet. I don't eat much sugar but not because of UC, Just because I feel better with other aspects physically and mentally when I avoid it. I don't drink soda. Usually always drink distilled water and drink a fair amount of apple and orange juice. I eat a lot of meats, nuts and fruits. I don't drink coffee or alcohol and don't do drugs or smoke although when I was younger I drank like a fish and smoked like a train and would do about any drug that was handed to me. For lunch on weekdays I do eat fast food nearly every day. Usually a hamburger or chicken sandwich or burritos or tacos and usually but not always avoid the fried foods. For breakfast I eat oatmeal with 2 percent milk every day. And of course I eat sunflower seeds nearly every day and spinach and carrots pretty often but not every day. I eat a few baby carrots every 3 days or so and only eat spinach once or twice a month now. But in the beginning of reaching remission I ate spinach much more often.

Post Edited (Cfromutah) : 7/26/2009 12:33:40 PM (GMT-6)


Sunshineonmyface~
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   Posted 7/26/2009 9:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I started eating the shelled sunflower seeds after reading this post about a weeks ago. I am amazed at the positive affects. I was scared to eat the seeds originally (last year when these posts first came out) so I tried sunflower butter and I didnt' notice a diifference then. Maybe I wasn't eating enough? I just was scared to eat the seeds. But the seeds seem to be pretty soft, and better results with the seeds. I haven't done spinach yet.

Christine1946
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   Posted 7/26/2009 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
     Could you tell  me where you purchase the sunflower butter?  I cannot do the seeds as in addition to the ulcerative proctitis I also have diverticulosis.
62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Meds as of June 09: Colazal (6 per day), 6MP (50 mgm), Probiotic (upped to 3 per day), Fish oil capsule, calcium, multivitamin, Cort enema nightly, Canasa in morning.  Also taking Benicar and Toprol to control high blood pressure.  Getting old is a b****.


Rio in Maryland
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   Posted 7/26/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Christine, I get the sunbutter from Whole Foods or from Trader Joes.
Rio, 33 year old male. Diagnosed with UC in 2006
Azathioprine (stopped), 4800 mg Asacol
VSL#3, Metamucil
Vitamin E enema or Canasa suppository occasionally


Zippy123
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   Posted 7/26/2009 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Christine1946 said...
Could you tell me where you purchase the sunflower butter? I cannot do the seeds as in addition to the ulcerative proctitis I also have diverticulosis.


http://www.swansonvitamins.com sells sunflower butter, but it is unsweetened, so you need to eat it with honey or something to make it taste ok.

Also http://www.sunbutter.com/ sells different variations of sunflower butter.

Helenymelany
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   Posted 7/31/2009 10:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been doing this diet for a couple of weeks now, although have been using a nightly foam enema too just to keep everything under control. I do think it is working as I don't have D and it is always formed and there is much less blood and mucus.
 
I make my own sunbutter by roasting the sunflowers in a hot pan till brown, putting them in a blender then putting them into a bowl and adding flaxseed oil some seasalt and manuka honey, then mix and make your paste and put in a jar for your pleasure. When it is warm from the roasting when first made it is delicious! Enjoy! 
 
Also with the spinach, I place the frozen chunks into a container to defrost overnight then add garlic, seasalt & black pepper, microwave and grate a little fresh parmisan on, darn I sound posh! Yum!
 
Not bad food to be eating whether sick or not.
 
Wishing health and happiness on all.
 
turn  
Diagnosed with Proctitis UC in Jan 2007 but never realised the seriousness of it....given Pentasa suppositories.....Nov/Dec 2008 very ill - thought it was food poisoning so was prescribed antibiotics twice then ended up in Hospital for 11 days on IV Steroids tapering off with Prednisolone Pancolitis now diagnosed!....another flare in April hospitalised for 12 days put onto Azathioprine and the prednisolone which has now finished. Hooray!
 
Presently Daily - Pentasa 4 tablets am & pm - 100mg Azathiprine - Asacol enema when needed
 
Alternatively I take a herbal tincture created for me by the Archway Clinic of Herbal Medicine which is great - I am taking a homeopathic treatment - Aloe Vera tablets - Slippery Elm tablets - Echinachia tablets - Floradix Herbal Iron Tonic - Royal Jelly
 


Christine1946
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:33 AM (GMT -6)   
     Is it ok to use canned spinach?  I just bought a few cans of Popeye's.  I haven't gotten out to Trader Joes'....kinda far from me...to purchase the sunflower butter.
62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Meds as of June 09: Colazal (6 per day), 6MP (50 mgm), Probiotic (upped to 3 per day), Fish oil capsule, calcium, multivitamin, Cort enema nightly, Canasa in morning.  Also taking Benicar and Toprol to control high blood pressure.  Getting old is a b****.


therearemiracles
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I thought eating canned spinich was ok too, does it work?
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started and stopped LDN ON 1/25/09 to mid May no improvements. Supplements: Probiotics, multi, iron, caprlic acid, sporonox (for 14 days) trying a new peptid replacement therapy, drug free. Getting IV of vitamins and minerals for 12 weeks. I take lomotil as needed.


Kiss520
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi All,

Just stopping in to say hi and report on my progress with the sunflower seed/spinach diet.  I was diagnosed at the beginning of '08 and had a year of pure hell (10-15 rounds of D each day, two hospital stays and related secondary health problems).  I started this diet around October of '08 and was off meds by January '09.  Since then I have taken no medication and only followed this diet.  I am in remission and only have occasional issues from my IBS.  This diet has absolutely been a cure for me.  I know the word "cure" is taboo in this forum, but I have actually thrown away all my old medications.  (What a joyous day that was!)

I strongly urge anyone interested in this diet to give it a try.  Imagine your life without doctor visits, hospital stays, medications and their awful side effects.  That is me now, and I never thought it could be.  Sometimes I (gasp!) actually forget I have UC. 

I know it seems like a pain to eat all this stuff every day, but you only have to do that until you're well.  Then you can start spacing it out more and more.  You'll always have to eat it with some regularity, but not nearly as often as you do in the beginning.  It's SO WORTH IT!!!

Good luck to you all.  Best wishes for recovery!

 


DX:  Pancolitis as of 9/08 (Proctitis as of 1/08) and IBS
Status:  Remission
What Worked:  Spinach/Sunflower Seed Diet & IBS Diet (www.helpforibs.com)
What Didn't Work:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Rowasa, Bentyl, Cortenema, Asacol, Iron, Zoloft, Acidophilus.
 
 
 
 
 


love4cats
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:56 AM (GMT -6)   
So far no flares this year, first time in years (and no maintenance drugs) that I haven't flared in the spring, wahoo, I love this diet!!!

I eat fresh baby spinach in my salads and sunflower seeds.
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence. 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped. 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


Kiss520
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   Posted 7/31/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I should mention that because of my IBS, I don't eat much spinach anymore. I get my magnesium from the sunflower seeds - which I eat often - and the beta carotene from carrots. Does the trick!
DX:  Pancolitis as of 9/08 (Proctitis as of 1/08) and IBS
Status:  Remission
What Worked:  Spinach/Sunflower Seed Diet & IBS Diet (www.helpforibs.com)
What Didn't Work:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Rowasa, Bentyl, Cortenema, Asacol, Iron, Zoloft, Acidophilus.
 
 
 
 
 


Cfromutah
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   Posted 8/2/2009 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
yes canned spinach works. Thats usually the only kind i eat.

subdued
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   Posted 8/2/2009 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I try to eat a variety of foods as well as getting a lot of spinach and sunbutter (sunflower seed butter) with bananas in my diet as well as adding turmeric to many of my foods. My colon has been very happy.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Dx Colitis Dec 06 (also had IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

What works for me: Fecal transplantation, Probiotics, Anti-inflammatory foods, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, Vitamins, Lexapro (for stress).


TripleKiss
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   Posted 8/2/2009 2:38 PM (GMT -6)   
So glad I read about this spinach and sunflower thing!  I have been on it for a week and have seen some improvement.  No, its not remission yet, but it feels like a step in the right direction. 
 
I have been doing 1/4 C. sunflower seeds (or the sunbutter on a banana, since my potassium is low!) and a turkey and spinach sandwich for lunch.  So easy to do! :)
 
I also started adding coconut oil to my diet as of yesterday and am staying optimistic! 

DX: UC (Proctitis) January 2009 (age 24)
Status: Currently in flare since Aug 2008 without remission
Medications: Align (probiotic), Cortisone Enema, Lialda, Prednisone (tapering), Flagyl, Cipro, Canasa, anticipating Dipentum after round of Prednisone,
Testing the spinach & sunflower diet (so far so good!), and researching coconut oil 
 


Helenymelany
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   Posted 8/10/2009 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Things are looking good for me too, I guess it has been about a month now on the diet, I went away last week and coped way better than I expected, less urgency fewer BM no D maybe a little blood but it is lessening and I'm feeling fighting fit! I'll report back in a month or so.....
turn  
Diagnosed with Proctitis UC in Jan 2007 but never realised the seriousness of it....given Pentasa suppositories.....Nov/Dec 2008 very ill - thought it was food poisoning so was prescribed antibiotics twice then ended up in Hospital for 11 days on IV Steroids tapering off with Prednisolone Pancolitis now diagnosed!....another flare in April hospitalised for 12 days put onto Azathioprine and the prednisolone which has now finished. Hooray!
 
Presently Daily - Pentasa 4 tablets am & pm - 100mg Azathiprine - Asacol enema when needed
 
Alternatively I take a herbal tincture created for me by the Archway Clinic of Herbal Medicine which is great - I am taking a homeopathic treatment - Aloe Vera tablets - Slippery Elm tablets - Echinachia tablets - Floradix Herbal Iron Tonic - Royal Jelly
 

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