Natural/herbal antibiotics?

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lefty8881
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   Posted 7/20/2009 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello,
I haven't been on here in awhile, but I know that you are all so knowledgeable and could possibly help me out! I was diagnosed with UC in 2005 and tried Asacol and Pentasa. Both made my symptoms worse. I decided to try Bee Propolis after hearing about it on here and it's been AMAZING!! Seriously, if you think that your UC has anything to do with bacteria levels I would suggest giving it a try. I've been able to stay off meds for 3 years mostly just from taking the Propolis (I also take fish oil and probiotics). Anyway, my husband and I have started started thinking about having babies (yes, it's in the very early stages!) and I've been reading that you shouldn't take Propolis while pregnant because they don't know if it could affect the baby.

So, that brings me to you guys!! Does anyone know of any herbal supplements that are natural antibiotics/ have antibiotic properties that are safe to take while pregnant?? I think there was someone who was taking cyprilic (sp?) acid?? Any other suggestions? I have awhile to play around and see what works for me.

Thanks so much!
dxd august 2005
uc or crohn's (not sure)
no meds, trying the natural thing for now:
multi vitamin
probiotics- primadophilus reuteri
Lily of the desert aloe vera gel
digestive enzymes + probiotics (lactobacillicus)
cod liver oil
seacure
**bee propolis**


fruitgirl
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   Posted 7/20/2009 8:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, the biggest potential issue with herbal stuff is that it hasn't really been studied for use in pregnant women. So you might have a bit of trouble finding info. Good luck, though!
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Apriso (4 pills ONCE!! daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).


lefty8881
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   Posted 7/20/2009 8:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I suppose that's true for most of them. I guess any other suggestions that I could look into would be appreciated! Thanks!
dxd august 2005
uc or crohn's (not sure)
no meds, trying the natural thing for now:
multi vitamin
probiotics- primadophilus reuteri
digestive enzymes + probiotics (lactobacillicus)
cod liver oil
**bee propolis**


fruitgirl
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   Posted 7/20/2009 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Princesa will probably post...she's pretty knowledgable about the more natural remidies, although she does take sulfalazine (sp?). When I was finally coming out of my flare, it seemed that avocado helped me. I guess it's a combination of the oils and the vitamins in it that helped so much. And, it's not like it's a chore to eat guacamole! :)

Are you at all interested in charting fertility signs? You seem to be the sort that might...let me know if you are and I can recommend a good book!
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Apriso (4 pills ONCE!! daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).


AMK77
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   Posted 7/20/2009 9:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I had my 2nd baby 6 months ago. I don't take any Rx meds. While I was pg I took probiotics, fish oil and a prenatal. I really didn't feel like anything else was safe to take b/c none of natural remedies have been thoroughly tested in pg women. I learned after I had my baby and was breastfeeding that Slippery elm is safe for pregnant and breastfeeding women, maybe try that. Pregnancy didn't affect or improved my UC. Best of luck to you!
32 yr old female
Mild Pancolitis
UC since 2000 - in remission for most of those 8 years med free.
Cannot tolerate mesalamine. Currently take probiotics and fish oil. Trying Applied Kinesiology & supplements.


lefty8881
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   Posted 7/20/2009 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I've never heard of charting fertility signs- what is it?? Like I said, we're in the very very early stages of planning (not really going to start trying for at least a year- but I'm a planner!)
dxd august 2005
uc or crohn's (not sure)
no meds, trying the natural thing for now:
multi vitamin
probiotics- primadophilus reuteri
digestive enzymes + probiotics (lactobacillicus)
cod liver oil
**bee propolis**


fruitgirl
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   Posted 7/20/2009 10:43 PM (GMT -6)   
It's basically taking your waking temperature each morning and checking your cervical position and fluid each day. It's really fascinating, I think, to know when your body is gearing up to ovulate, and when you have ovulated. It was nice for me to know that I was for sure ovulating, as I'd been on the pill for about 11 years before DH and I decided to start trying. (My mom had ovarian cancer at a very young age...so I take the pill to help lower my risk.) I quit the pill and started charting about 4 or 5 months before we were ready to start trying. I'm also a planner and my husband and I are both extremely busy at work during the late spring, summer, and early fall, so we wanted to try to make sure the baby was born during the "off season."

A great book to get that explains it all is Taking Charge of Your Fertility. There is software included that's linked to a website to track everything on, but there's a fee associated with it. You can track everything on-line, too, with fertilityfriend.com. It's free!

If you have any questions once you get started, just let me know. :)
Status: Remission since late May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently taking Apriso (4 pills ONCE!! daily), Rowasa twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Zippy123
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   Posted 7/21/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
As far as natural antibiotics a couple I know of are Oil of Oregano, and Colloidal Silver water. Oil of Oregano is more known for anti candida.

ickypoo
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   Posted 7/21/2009 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Oil of Oregano is a wonderful product that has a variety of applications (I use it frequently), but is a very potent compound and not recommended for pregnant women.
Diagnosed with UC in 1990.
Current Meds: Sulfasalazine & Folic Acid.
Supplements: fish oil, flax oil, glucosamine, CoQ10, fiber, aloe vera juice, probiotics.
Other: Raw Milk for breakfast. Currently exploring a raw milk fast one day/week.


Sara14
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   Posted 7/21/2009 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't have any answers to your question, but I'm interested in taking propolis. What kind of dose do you take? Did it help you get out of a bad flare?
25 years old; diagnosed March 2007
Currently: I feel almost back to normal...could be in remission finally or very close at least?
Asacol, 4 tabs, 3xday; Rowasa nightly; Viactiv; Metamucil wafers; multivitamin; sublingual allergy drops; Ortho Tri-Cyclen


pb4
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   Posted 7/21/2009 12:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey lefty, I also take bee propolis (which has natural anti-inflammatory, antibiotic, antifungal and antibacterial properties) how much bee propolis are you taking in a day? Maybe you could try increasing your amount or adding bee pollen along with your regime?
 
Check out this link which tells of many types of natural antibiotics (extra virgin olive oil is also a natrual antibiotic among other things)....
 


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Post Edited (pb4) : 7/21/2009 11:20:13 AM (GMT-6)


spluxa
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   Posted 7/21/2009 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm interested in bee propolice, what dose should I start with and what is right way to take it?


Diagnosed with left-sided UC on Sept 08 Colazal 5x2day, Lialda 2 per day (so unusual to take just 2 pills)
Canasa 1 supp. every nigh Cortifoam 1 at night
Vitamins: Zinc, B complex, Fleexsead Oil capsules, Multi. Digestive Enzymes (helps a lot)
***I'm not sick with UC, it's UC sick with me!***






pb4
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   Posted 7/21/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi spluxa, I use 500mg caps of bee propolis that I purchase online from puritans pride, I take one cap 2X/day and have been for the last 6 yrs now and my GI encourages me to contiune with it, he says that if it's helping as much as it is then take it indefinitely if I like cuz it's non-toxic (his words).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


kim123
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   Posted 7/21/2009 5:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you thinking of caprylic acid? I would also recommend olive leaf extract, a potent antimicrobial. I have taken both along with my antifungal diet to get well and remain symptom and med-free. It is always good to check with your doctor, even with naturals.

kim123
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   Posted 7/21/2009 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   

lefty8881
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   Posted 7/21/2009 11:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I take the NOW brand propolis. I take 2 500 mg pills/ twice a day (so four pills a day). Two at lunch and two at night. I'm not sure if there is a "right" way to take it, but I have noticed that if I don't eat after I take it it leaves a weird feeling in my throat- like they aren't going down the right way. That might just be me though. Like I said, it's worth trying! One bottle costs $8 on Iherb.com and lasts me about a month. I'm thinking of trying to go down to just 2 or 3 pills a day, just to try to make them last longer.
dxd august 2005
uc or crohn's (not sure)
no meds, trying the natural thing for now:
multi vitamin
probiotics- primadophilus reuteri
digestive enzymes + probiotics (lactobacillicus)
cod liver oil
**bee propolis**


spluxa
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Total Posts : 183
   Posted 7/22/2009 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone tried Suppository with Propolis? May it will be good for proctitis...Any ideas?


Diagnosed with left-sided UC on Sept 08 Colazal 5x2day, Lialda 2 per day (so unusual to take just 2 pills)
Canasa 1 supp. every nigh Cortifoam 1 at night
Vitamins: Zinc, B complex, Fleexsead Oil capsules, Multi. Digestive Enzymes (helps a lot)
***I'm not sick with UC, it's UC sick with me!***






Helenymelany
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   Posted 7/22/2009 10:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I would contact your local Herbal teaching clinic, they will be of the best opinion and will be knowledgable on all herbs and alternative remedies. I can reccomend the Archway clinic of herbal Medicine in London UK you will find them online, I don't know where you are based.
 
I find Royal Jelly really helps with my energy levels
 
All the best with it.
 
 
turn  
Diagnosed with Proctitis UC in Jan 2007 but never realised the seriousness of it....given Pentasa suppositories.....Nov/Dec 2008 very ill - thought it was food poisoning so was prescribed antibiotics twice then ended up in Hospital for 11 days on IV Steroids tapering off with Prednisolone Pancolitis now diagnosed!....another flare in April hospitalised for 12 days put onto Azathioprine and the prednisolone which has now finished. Hooray!
 
Presently Daily - Pentasa 4 tablets am & pm - 100mg Azathiprine - Asacol enema when needed
 
Alternatively I take a herbal tincture created for me by the Archway Clinic of Herbal Medicine which is great - I am taking a homeopathic treatment - Aloe Vera tablets - Slippery Elm tablets - Echinachia tablets - Floradix Herbal Iron Tonic - Royal Jelly
 

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