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cromartie
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   Posted 7/29/2009 8:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is a timeline of what has been happening with me:

March 2009 - Large lumpy formed stools with mucus on outside. Bowel movement every other day.

Mid-End April 2009 - Tailbone/rectal pain develops. Multiple small, hard, pellet stools per day with mucus and small amounts of bright red blood on outside. Went to doctor, suspected constipation. Told me to go on Miralax. This made my bowel movements really thin and long. Got really soft and blood/mucus disappeared (unless it mixed into the paste like stools). Tailbone/rectal pain kept coming/going in 5-7 day bouts.

Mid-End May 2009 - Stopped Miralax. Within a week, stools bulked up, got lumpy/hard again and the mucus with blood streaks appeared again. Doctor said go back on Miralax and maybe down the dosage to half.

June 2009 - Back on Miralax. Stools got really soft/thin again. Had to go 2-3 times per day. Mucus and blood disappeared (at least from view) again. Tailbone/rectal pain came and go as well. Doctor also saw an anal fissure during a rectal exam. Later in June, abdominal pain/bloating/gurgling/gas sounds developed. I thought maybe this was the miralax and stopped. Also because I never felt done going on the Miralax.

July 2009 - Stools bulked backup again. Going one time a day, about two hours after waking up. The most regular I've ever been. However, the stool always starts out hard/lumpy, and then is soft at the end of the movement. Same thing every day. Have visible mucus in every bowel movement, and have had small bits and streaks of bright red blood occasionally. I haven't had the blood in the last four days, which is the longest stretch since March (while not on Miralax). Been having occasional abdominal cramps/bloating feeling that lasts a day or two then goes away.

Also an intermittent symptom during this entire time period: After my bowel movement, sometimes I'll feel an itch down there a few hours later. I go to wipe and there will be a clear or brownish mucus, sometimes pinkish tinged (blood?).

Rectal pain, which felt almost like a burning inside disappeared about a week ago, and only occasionally get a twinge in there now. No tailbone pain since June. During all of this, no appetite loss except when I felt bloated. No weight loss.

Went to see GI yesterday and she thinks it might be a mild form of Ulcerative Colitis or Crohn's. My mom has Crohn's and my grandma had rectal cancer when she was in her 60s. She set me up for a colonoscopy on August 17th to check it out. She also said maybe it's two things like IBS and hemorrhoids, or IBS and that fissure. I expressed my worry about it being colon cancer and she said in her 20 years doing scopes, her youngest colon cancer patient was 33 years old. I know it's rare with people my age (28), but it still makes me concerned. I always thought with UC or Crohn's you'd need to have diarrhea, constipation, etc? Can you be regular every day and still be constipated because the stools start out hard and lumpy? I'm really hoping for the best and I'd actually hope its mild UC now, especially since the other option is the dreaded cancer!!

Thanks!

kim123
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   Posted 7/29/2009 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
It's always good to get a change in bowel habits checked out. Good to get a colonoscopy to rule things out. I'm wondering if it is possible you have a yeast overgrowth. (itching, pain, gurgling, bloating, gas) are good indicators. Were you on antibiotics, birth control pills (are you female?) before? If so, an antifungal diet may be something to look into.

cromartie
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   Posted 7/29/2009 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I was on Cipro in March for 2 weeks and the entire month of April.

mikeman
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   Posted 7/30/2009 2:38 AM (GMT -6)   
sounds more like colonic inertia A condition where muscles
or nerves in the colon fail to operate normally which prevents fecal matter from progressing normally through the colon. This can lead to constipation. Often the cause of colonic inertia is unknown but in some cases it can result from excessive use of stimulant laxatives or various muscle or nerve diseases.

the blood that you seen is likely from a hemorrhage of pushing while constipated. if you had chrons or UC your bowel movements would be watery and way more than every other day.
A colonoscopy is the only way to tell.

Post Edited By Moderator (Red_34) : 7/30/2009 6:51:04 AM (GMT-6)


cromartie
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   Posted 7/30/2009 7:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm, colonic inertia can't be it either. I'm going everyday now since May. It was every other day at its worst.

When I went this morning the hard/lumpy part was just the first inch or so, then it was soft, so maybe it's getting better? Also I noted a lot less mucus and no blood again. Hoping for the best.

kim123
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   Posted 7/30/2009 9:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Why were you on cipro? I would definitely recommend probiotics for you, as antibiotics will wipe out all your good bacteria, as well as the bad, allowing for yeast overgrowth, which can present itself with symptoms you are describing. Do you eat bread/grains, pasta, potatoes, sugar? If you do have a yeast overgrowth, then these foods are feeding the fungus and perpetuating your symptoms.

cromartie
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   Posted 7/30/2009 9:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I was on it first for an ear infection, then these symptoms started and doctor suspected prostate infection cause I also had some burning when urinating. So I got 28 more days of Cipro. I do eat bread and pasta frequently. What do you recommend for a probiotic?

Lack of good intestinal bacteria can cause constipation, mucus, and surface blood on stool?

Sara14
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   Posted 7/30/2009 11:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Before I ever got UC, I remember my stools being a little hard at the beginning of the movement, then softer. I think that may be normal?

The blood could be from IBD (UC or Crohn's) or it could be from your anal fissure or a hemmoroid. The mucous could be IBD or Irritable Bowel Syndrome or just a normal result of things you are eating. You can have UC and not have diarrhea or constipation, but I don't think it's common. I don't know about Crohn's. There is really no way to know until you get your colonoscopy, so hang tough and try to be patient until then.
25 years old; diagnosed March 2007
Currently: I feel almost back to normal...could be in remission finally or very close at least?
Asacol, 4 tabs, 3xday; Rowasa nightly; Viactiv; Metamucil wafers; multivitamin; sublingual allergy drops; Ortho Tri-Cyclen


kim123
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   Posted 7/30/2009 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   

Bingo! I'm thinking from your health history that the cipro has had a lot, if not all, to do with your sudden onset of symptoms. Antibiotics will change the bowel flora, allowing yeast overgrowth, which leads to symptoms such as gas, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, GERD, rashes, mucous, etc. Yeast/fungus will cause inflammation, so that may be where the blood is coming from, or from your constipation. Better to get checked out just the same.

Yeast lives symbiotically with bacteria in your bowels, but left unchecked (when good bacteria is wiped out, often from antibiotics), yeast is allowed to proliferate. Yeast can also cause prostate problems. (What does yeast do to bread?!) Sounds suspicious to me. Perhaps you could try an antifungal diet, to see if your symptoms don't start improving. May take at least 2 weeks to see improvement, so it is not an overnight experiment.

My UC symptoms started out like what you are describing to me, and eventually got worse as the years went by (8 years). I decided to experiment with an antifungal diet, and as a result am now symptom and prescription drug free. For me, my UC symptoms were fungus related. I got my first inkling of fungus and my problems from the author of the website www.knowthecause.com. An antifungal, phase one diet is under the resource tab at the top of the page, along with other info on fungus and health.....Sorry, no pasta or bread :(

Definitely get yourself on a good probiotic. I use Nature's Way Primadolphilus Reuteri. Perhaps others here can suggest some other good choices, as well.


Durango Kid
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   Posted 7/30/2009 5:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Kim 123, this is interesting. I'm in the middle of a flare.  I'm on 40mg Pred per day + the usual asacol probiotics etc.  I had a plate of pasta (no sauce) the other night and the night before that I had chicken with a tomatoe mushroom sauce and my U.C went into overdrive.  What about white rice?  I have seen posts on this forum where U.C.ers seem to tolerate rice.  It would also be useful to get a list of foods to stay away from along with the phase one diet recomendations.  Thanks,  Durango Kid
UC diagnosed  Dec. 2003
Asacol (2) 3x daily
Fish oil
Probiotics
Possibly lactose intolerant (still trying to identify)
Currently flarring (only 2nd time) Pred 40mg daily for two weeks then taper off....
 


cromartie
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   Posted 7/30/2009 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Today I'm really gassy. Like every 5 minutes!!! Can that be from the yeast in overdrive?

kim123
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   Posted 7/30/2009 8:11 PM (GMT -6)   
First, let me say that fungus may not be the cause of your UC symptoms, but, it also sure may be. The only way to know is to experiment with an antifungal diet, like the one I mentioned on the knowthecause website. There are other anti-candida diets out there, but the "phase one diet" is the one I followed to get well. It requires strict adherence, but it will be so worth it, if fungus is your issue. I had ever kind of test given to me known to man, in three different states, and not one came back with fungus as suspect, nor did my doctors ever mention probiotics as a good supplement to take. Believe it or not, even after getting well, they still refused to believe that diet had a role in it, said it was coincidence, and, "Here, don't forget your new prescription as you head out the door". You don't even need to ask me if I ever went back for a follow-up!

I then moved to the phase 2 diet, which allows you to eat some grains such as millet, barley, oats, quinoa, yeast-free tortilla bread, and vegetables such as yams, legumes, in moderation. I am now eating most foods again, trying to limit all processed foods as they are bad for anyone, anyway. I also don't eat any artificial sweetener, as that is not good for IBD or IBS'ers. I use Truvia, or Stevia instead.

Yes! Being gassy could very well be from yeast/fungus. Think again of the analogy of yeast added to bread dough. What does it do? Fungus thrives on warm, wet, sugar-fed environments. (What is it like in the inside of our body?) Fungi can penetrate cell walls, alter DNA structures, and have been known to play a part in leaky gut syndrome, penetrating through intestinal walls.

Fungi thrive on high-carb foods, thus the very low-carb diet, initially. All grains, including rice and corn should be eliminated. According to one particular medical journal, the JAMA (2002), all grains are commonly contaminated with mycotoxins (fungal poisons)...another reason to exclude them while on the diet. You asked for the foods to stay away from...ALL the ones NOT mentioned on the phase one diet on the website. If you need a clearer picture of the diet, as well as what I ate while I was on it, you can email me directly, if you want, or I'll post it here.

Doctors are necessary, but they don't always have all the answers, particularly when it comes to fungus. They are not trained in mycology,..... just identifying symptoms and handing out prescriptions. Take control of your own health. If what you have been trying doesn't work, then do your own research and change something. If you always do what you've always done, expect the same results.

Again, I'm not saying you, or anyone else reading this has a fungus issue. I am not a doctor. But, what is it worth to you to find out?

cromartie
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Found this tonight and am totally freaked out now. This is from wrongdiagnosis.com.

With a rectal tumor, the first indication is a change in bowel habits, often beginning with an urgent need to defecate on arising (“morning diarrhea”) or obstipation alternating with diarrhea. Other indications include blood or mucus in stool and a sense of incomplete evacuation.

Late in the disease, pain begins as a feeling of rectal fullness that later becomes a dull and sometimes constant ache confined to the rectum or sacral region.


Let's see, for the last month I've had an urgent need to defecate about 30 mins after getting up. I've had blood and mucus on my stool. I've also felt rectal fullness and have a dull ache/burning sensation that's coming from the rectal area. Great! How reliable is that site? It's the only site that gives that description.

AnnaG
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   Posted 8/1/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd just like to say,to the original poster,than,we they describe sounds very similar to how my UC began,and that I have never suffered from loose stools or diarhea,even though I know a lot of people with have these symptoms,if you d'ont it does not necessarily mean you d'ont have uc.
41yrs old,mum of 3,servere left-sided UC since 2006,
Tried most things alternative,scd diet,low residue,etc
Had,ascol,pentasa,rectalmeds,prednisolne,IVsteriods,Cyclosporin
currently taking Imuran 100mgs daily,movicol 1 satchet daily


Serenity Now
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   Posted 8/1/2009 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
cromartie said...
Found this tonight and am totally freaked out now. This is from wrongdiagnosis.com.

With a rectal tumor, the first indication is a change in bowel habits, often beginning with an urgent need to defecate on arising (“morning diarrhea”) or obstipation alternating with diarrhea. Other indications include blood or mucus in stool and a sense of incomplete evacuation.

Late in the disease, pain begins as a feeling of rectal fullness that later becomes a dull and sometimes constant ache confined to the rectum or sacral region.


Let's see, for the last month I've had an urgent need to defecate about 30 mins after getting up. I've had blood and mucus on my stool. I've also felt rectal fullness and have a dull ache/burning sensation that's coming from the rectal area. Great! How reliable is that site? It's the only site that gives that description.
The problem with these symptoms is that they could describe so many illnesses.  Before I was diagnosed I was convinced I had some kind of cancer.  At different times I thought I had celiac disease, I thought I had IBS, I thought I had x, y, then z.  I think this is why it (usually) takes so long to finally get a diagnosis, they have to test for and rule out so many different things. 
 
So - don't panic.  Don't ignore it, definitely get it checked out, but don't panic.
ack, 42, Vancouver BC
 
DX: UC (Pancolitis) as of Jan2009.  Symptoms first began June 2008.
Current Meds: Ferrous Sulfate, plus various supplements
Previous Meds: Jan-Mar 2009: Asacol 800 mg (1 pill x 4 daily), stopped Mar14/09. 


kim123
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   Posted 8/1/2009 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Peaks- why don't you email me directly. I can include some information on fungus and UC, such as :

http://www.healthe-livingnews.com/articles/fungal_etiology_of_inflammatory_bowel_disease.html


... as well as what I typically ate on the phase one diet. If you don't want to, that's fine. You can read what the diet actually entails on the website I referred in my previous posting- www.knowthecause.com, then follow the "Resources" tab at the top, find page 3 of the Resources page and look for the heading- "What foods are allowed on the phase one diet?", ...or try this link:

http://www.knowthecause.com/Resources/tabid/56/currentpage/3/Default.aspx

There are other FAQ's on the "Resources" page, as well, that you may find interesting to read.

You should take antifungals along with changing your diet. Diet change alone will not be enough. I took natural antifungals- olive leaf extract capsules (3X/day) and rotated monthly with caprylic acid capsules. As well, you may feel worse at the beginning of the program before you start feeling better. Good sign, believe it or not, as the may be an indicator your condition is fungal-related. The fungus is dying and toxins are being released throughout your body. If you feel better in 2 weeks after being on the diet (not 100% necessarily!), it is very likely your condition was caused by fungus.

It is not an overnight magic fix. Nor, may it necessarily be that you have a fungal condition. However, now that I've learned how fungus can be implicated in so many of our health problems, I now think FUPO- Fungus Unless Proven Otherwise :)

Hope this helps somewhat............

azizfrost
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   Posted 12/25/2017 9:19 PM (GMT -6)   
is cromartie still here?

iPoop
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I wouldn't expect so, profile says "Last Seen : 8/18/2009 9:12 PM." Been 9-years. Why?

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   Posted 12/27/2017 7:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I just wanted to ask his contact details, we have the same symptoms, maybe he could share what happened, I saw other forums that he had colonoscopy and all came back normal.

I want to know how he fixed his poop, because I am also having hard lumpy stool (pellets) followed by normal stool. sometimes mixed.
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