Mucus and what look like skin when I go to the bathroom

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therearemiracles
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   Posted 8/25/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi All,
 
I'm just wondering who gets a lot of mucus and some stuff that looks like skin with some blood? Why do we get this? I'm seriously considering trying asacol again, it's been years since i did. I'm more stronger and not so vitamin/mineral depleted so maybe it will work better. I'm just worried about having all this mucus and skin come out, what's its doing to my insides?
 
Any suggestions?
Thank you,
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started and stopped LDN ON 1/25/09 to mid May no improvements. Supplements: Probiotics, multi, iron, caprlic acid, sporonox (for 14 days) trying a new peptid replacement therapy, drug free. Getting IV of vitamins and minerals for 12 weeks. I take lomotil as needed.


sirenshooter
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   Posted 8/25/2009 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think going back on the Asacol would hurt, and any improvement is better than none, right?
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


BowelsofThunder
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   Posted 8/25/2009 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi TAM,
I remember you from 2007. We both had a colonoscopies about a month apart so we were diagnosed at the same time. If it were me having those symptoms I would have another scope done ... see what's going on ... look at medications from there ...
Zurich

quincy
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   Posted 8/25/2009 2:50 PM (GMT -6)   
it's the mucosal layer and mucus that you're seeing...basically, your colon is inflamed and fragile enough to break down and shed. I would think it's higher than only the rectum.

Asacol alone wouldn't do much unless you can use the rectal meds as well....

You don't do well on 5ASA meds..but maybe worth a try again. However maybe you can do the Entocort and steroid rectal foam??????

or...consider the immunosuppressants or biologics or surgery...

quincy
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 8/25/2009 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I used to have that, I think it's just a symptom of UC. I am feeling pretty good lately and I've had somewhat normal BMs.
 
If I were you, I would try Asacol again, why not? It may not help but it probably won't hurt either provided you're not allergic.
 
How many pills did you take a day when you took it? I've seen people here taking up to 16!! I take 9 and would like to reduce to 6 but I had symptoms return on 6/day. Asacol took me from constant D and 15 trips to the toilet a day, passing blood and mucus to 1 formed stool a day. I hope you are feeling better soon.
Diagnosed with mild proctitis in March 2007: Treated with Canasa (as needed)
December 08: Began treating with Asacol 400mg (9/day) + Canasa 2x/day - Anemic
May 09: Off Canasa, taking Asacol (9/day)
Back on Canasa every other night + Asacol (9/day) + Probiotics + Iron
Reducing to 6 Asacol/day + Canasa + Probiotics + Iron - So far so good!!! -SPOKE TOO SOON! Back to 9/day...


Christine1946
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   Posted 8/25/2009 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
     I get that a lot with my ulcerative proctitis.
 
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008 for ten days.
Remission Nov 08 thru May of 09.
Slowly coming out of flare.  Meds: Colazal (6 per day), prednisone 10 mgm and tapering weekly, Cort enema nightly, Canasa in morning, Benicar 20 mg for BP, flaxseed oil 3 x a day, fishoil 2 x a day, probiotic 3 x a day, calcium with D 1x a day and multivitamin.
Doctor had me on 100 mgm of 6MP which drastically lowered my white count.  Now off the 6MP pending results of repeat white count. UGH.


BowelsofThunder
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   Posted 8/25/2009 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm with Supersaw too.  I recall seeing that stuff before my diagnosis ...  Zurich

pb4
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   Posted 8/25/2009 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Mucus comes in different looking forms, sizes and colour, what you're likely seeing is all mucus but if you want to be sure then take a sample to your doc (as I have) to get it confirmed that it's mucus (as I did), I know exactly what you're talking about how it literally looks like skinny, sometimes floaing pieces of skin but it's not, it's mucus, my GI assured me that nothing more than poop and mucus would ever come out of there...it's not actual bits of your intestinal lining.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/26/2009 3:22 AM (GMT -6)   
pb4..you took your poo to the doc to look at? BRAVE girl...but it's a good way to get it clarified. Did you bring it in a jar??
I wonder how many patients do that? Must ask my doc.




miracles...I reread my post and it's incorrect how it reads regarding the mucosal layer shedding off..I didn't mean to say that.

The more the inflamed the mucosal layer is with increased assult on the colon, the more mucus will be produced...but that "layer" will be constantly shed or stripped off with each bm episode.

Once the colon slows down the mucus should look more like mucus mixed with stool and/or blood.

quincy
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


subdued
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   Posted 8/26/2009 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I got the stuff that looks like skin too. Since my colon had a bad ulcer, it could have been skin from the colon. Very scary. I noticed it most when the blood lessened. Perhaps, it was easier to see when there wasn't as much blood.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting; Dx Colitis Dec 06 (also had IBS); Currently in remission

Figuring out how to reduce a flare or get into remission is a trial and error experience. Don't expect your GI to have all the answers. He was trained in making diagnoses, prescribing medications, and surgically removing the colon. He was not trained in alternative treatments. That's why they are called alternative treatments.

What works for me: Fecal transplantation, Probiotics, Anti-inflammatory foods, No HFCS, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, Vitamins, Lexapro (for stress).


pb4
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   Posted 8/26/2009 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, Q, My doc gives me extra containers used for stool samples and tells me if I ever see anything odd to send it in and it will b looked at so I take it to my nearest lab and sure enough they contact him with their findings and he lets me know what's going on with my collections.

Haven't you ever done stool samples by request of your doc? It's the same thing only by my request.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/27/2009 2:13 AM (GMT -6)   
hi...I've never really had anything odd that couldn't be answered from a quick query or a look back from what I ate the day before..etc. But I'm sure that if I was having anything continual the doc would request stool samples as he has a few times in the past.
Gotta love the teeeeny weeeeny scoop, OK for formed stool, not so good for diarrhea..yeeeesh.

Always good to know, however....and I'm relieved to hear it wasn't brought to him in a fancy jar...lol!

q
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


pb4
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   Posted 8/27/2009 12:08 PM (GMT -6)   
What did you think, I brought stool samples in fancy glass jars marked "blackcurrent jam" or something LOL?

Even when collecting D for stool samples you can use saran wrap in between the toilet bowl and seat or get one of those sample collector potty's (I have one) that you just sit on the top of the toilet bowl and put the seat down over it (same idea when using saran wrap), then just pour the sample into the jar.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/27/2009 1:49 PM (GMT -6)   
of course, I'm joking...but I wouldm't doubt some arrive in different vessels of interest..lol!

I used a 2L pail for my poo samples to dig out of, but the Saran would be a good idea so that it could be spilled back into the toilet..ugh.

I have a mask on, gloves and am gagging the whole way through. Not for me. I'd rather shovel horse poo anyday.

Thanks for the insight, however.
H
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 8/27/2009 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   
When I had to do my 24-hour collection (GI wanted to measure my output before I was diagnosed to ensure that I really did have diarrhea) the lab gave me a paint can (it was new, had never had paint in it before) to store it all in. It also had to stay cold. The people at the lab said I should just store it in the fridge!!! Yeah, riiiiight. Number one, that's nasty, unsanitary, and potentially hazardous. Number two, I didn't have TIME to go get the paint can from the fridge, or I'd have crapped my pants. Kind of pointless when I'm supposed to be recording my output.

My husband ended up bringing a 5-gallon bucket in from the garage, and we found a smaller bucket that we put upside down in the 5-gallon bucket. Then I put the paint can on top of the small bucket, and it actually made an ok seat, and the pain can was at the exact right height. Then we put a cooler full of ice in the baththub, and I stored the can in there.

After I was done, we poured a lot of bleach in the cooler, filled it up with water, and let it soak for a while.
Status: Remission since May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently meds: Apriso (4 0.375g pills ONCE!! daily), mesalamine enema twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (currently tapering; 12.5 mg).


pb4
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   Posted 8/27/2009 4:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Q, the only time I used a pail (actually a paint can that was given to me by the lab) was when my GI ordered me to do a specific test to weigh my poops for a one week period, filling the can everytime I had to "go" and making sure not to pee in it as well, that was tough (the not peeing in it part) but otherwise since I was told it had to be kept cold, I just placed the paint can in the toilet and left it in there, since the cold toilet (being porcelain) and the cold water in the toilet was perfect for keeping it cold enough...luckily I have 2 other bathrooms in the house that I used for peeing. Thank god there was a lid for the can, I have to say, I could have puked everytime (which was alot) I had to make a deposit into the can when I took the lid off...I never want to do that test again, a stool sample is nothing compared to a week of that.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/27/2009 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
OOOOOOOOOO-MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM-GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!! UGH
I'd've puked for sure.

Must put that one in my memory banks just in case..lol..

q
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 8/27/2009 4:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Good thing you've never had kids, then quincy!
I mean, Ben's only 10 months old, and poop just doesn't bother me anymore, whether it's mine or his!
Status: Remission since May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently meds: Apriso (4 0.375g pills ONCE!! daily), mesalamine enema twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (currently tapering; 12.5 mg).


quincy
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   Posted 8/28/2009 1:06 AM (GMT -6)   
true, but I've changed lots of diapers in my time (but it's good I don't have kids for various reasons not only diapers).....lol....but adult poo in a closed can for days (OK, albeit cold)...you'd probably have your olafactory senses challenged too..haha.

Still stinks...pu.

q
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


glamourgirl
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   Posted 8/28/2009 5:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Maybe you could try Lialda instead of Asacol. I always felt like Asacol made me worse but I decided to give Lialda a try this past spring. I felt like it helped at first but then I think it gave me weird cramping and more D. It's worth a try for you.
Female, Age 38
Diagnosed w/c.diff 7/02 when pregnant w/1st and only child during 2nd trimester(wasn't on antibiotics)
C.diff flare within weeks of delivering baby 1/03, Diagnosed with UC 2/03
Current Meds:
Lialda, 6MP
Ferrex Forte
Acidophillus, Sacchromyces Boulardii, Oil of Oregano

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