Having to go/urgency after eating? anyone else have this? afternoon?

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jazzgtrl4
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   Posted 8/29/2009 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok so im on colazol 4 a day 2 morn two night and 1000 miligram Canasa at night before bed. In the morning i dont have really any blood, i go once maybe twice in the morning. then when afternoon hits say around 4:00 after i eat lunch is when i get the urgency to go. Im fine up till then.anyone else have this as well? when i had my first flare i dont remember having the urgency in the afternoon.It would be in the morning and then done from what i can remember. Its like eating triggers my bowels to move. then there's blood. or nothing coming out but the urgency to go is there. i hate this crappp

Christine1946
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   Posted 8/29/2009 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
          What do you eat?  If it is high in fiber maybe that triggers it.
 
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008 for ten days.
Remission Nov 08 thru May of 09.
Slowly coming out of flare.  Meds: Colazal (6 per day), prednisone 10 mgm and tapering weekly, Cort enema nightly, Canasa in morning, Benicar 20 mg for BP, flaxseed oil 3 x a day, fishoil 2 x a day, probiotic 3 x a day, calcium with D 1x a day and multivitamin.
Doctor had me on 100 mgm of 6MP which drastically lowered my white count.  Now off the 6MP pending results of repeat white count. UGH.


Nutz
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   Posted 8/29/2009 7:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I usually have all of my issues early in the morning or late at night. Interestingly enough, I was usually fine in the afternoon. I think it was because I was busy and didn't think about it as much. Food definitely triggers me to go, though, so depending on when and what I eat, I will still go. Maybe eat a good breakfast, "let it out" so to speak and have a light lunch so that you are not too bothered by the food. It's like starving ourselves- ugh!
Nutz
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis 1999, changed to Ulcerative Colitis 2002.  Currently taking 6MP 50mg, Prednisone 30mg, Lialda 2 tabs/day, Colocort enemas, Canasa suppositories


jazzgtrl4
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   Posted 8/29/2009 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   
A few times i have just had a very light sandwich, wheat bread? no cheese. turkey, bread a little lettuce. I would have cereal a few times in the morn and i thought it was the milk doing it so i cut it out for 2 days and just had a breakfast bar. ya im starving myself, dont want to eat because of the urgency that follows about an hour or so later. And it kind of hurts to go after the first movement. stuff comes out, then the 2nd, 3rd, nothing really comes out. i just took a small pill for diahrea Lonox?. is it. seems to calm my bowles

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Peety
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   Posted 8/29/2009 8:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Eating definitely stimulates the bowels, for everyone. We just notice it more and have urgency because our systems are more sensitive.
I never ate and then tried to take a walk or a car ride, because I could always expect some activity!
And if I was away from a restroom, I would not eat anything, not a bite. That's all it takes.

BTW, lettuce is my harshest trigger food. Try going without? I also can't eat high fiber or gluten/wheat. You might be causing yourself some trouble with your food choices.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985. 
Asacol maintenance for 20+ years; 
Prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
Food sensitivity test by Naturopath showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances, helped some. 
Remicade started April 2009 (Humira denied) and doing great~ learning what normal is~ wow


basa0806
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   Posted 8/29/2009 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
When you eat it triggers peristalsis (the involuntary movement of smooth muscle in your GI tract). When I was flaring it was always like that. I would eat and then BOOM...d. My mom would always go "you couldn't have digested your food that fast!" Of course she knew I didn't. I still get like this sometimes in remission. I'll eat and then 10 minutes later I have to poop. Just nature of being human I guess.

ps. I'm like peety. Lettuce is murder to me and fiber does more harm than good. I'd try modifying what to eat to give your colon a break in digesting those kinds of things.
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Seasonal allergies, very mild asthma (albuterol when needed), allergic to sulfa
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notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 8/29/2009 8:52 PM (GMT -6)   
When I was flaring I always had urgency after eating. I never ate. I lost tons of weight and was very unhealthy. I couldn't be running to the toilet all day.
Diagnosed with mild proctitis in March 2007: Treated with Canasa (as needed)
Horrible relapse: August 08 - December 08: Began treating with Asacol 400mg (9/day) + Canasa 2x/day - Anemic
Canasa nightly + Asacol (9/day) + Probiotics + Iron
 


jazzgtrl4
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   Posted 8/29/2009 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks for the info everyone, so now i cant eat...***. no seriously i don't remember it like this last time, maybe it was in the beginning. is everyone's flares different everytime? i know sometimes mild, sometimes hell but what you can eat and what you can.

pb4
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   Posted 8/29/2009 11:21 PM (GMT -6)   
For IBDers, eating can stimulate BM's but even on days you eat lightly your bowels will still be overstimulated cuz that is afterall the nature of the disease (beast)...jazzgtrl4 you are obviously flaring, not going more than 2 times in the am but having more frequency later in the day is just how your flare is behaving, flares can vary with symptoms each time you have a flare.

Before I got sick, eating never stimulated my bowels, I was like clock-work, basically pooped the same time everyday and only once a day with total bowel control (if I had to hold it I could with no problems or issues)....man I miss those days.

Try fibre supplements daily and see how that goes, it can help with cutting back daily BM's, it should help form your stools up more too, and if you find it's helping in anyway then stick with it indefinitely (as my GI directed me to do).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/30/2009 12:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Ditto pb4....one who is flaring shouldn't expect to not be going. If I'm flaring, I will go in the morning, late afternoon and in the late evening or early morning...depending on if I'm up.

Use the Canasa in the morning as well....better yet, you should be on the retention enemas.

Whatever you do.....don't stop eating because food is what helps retain your strength while going through flares.
Don't make it all about the food.

Don't take the Lonox often at all...it'll just imobilise your colon...if you need it once in a while, OK, but it's not going to help your flare.

An antispasmodic such as dicyclomine would be better.

you're flaring, plain and simple. It sucks for sure.

q
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


songlady
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   Posted 8/30/2009 6:56 AM (GMT -6)   
As someone else said, when we eat, it affects the whole GI system and starts peristalsis throughout the intestines. So what we poop is not what we just ate, but whatever was lower in the system from an earlier meal. This thing, (the gastrocolic reflex, I believe?) is evident in babies - you feed them and have to change their diapers soon after!
With us and our inflamed systems it's more evident than in "normal" adults.
Some tips I read in a book from the ccfa decades ago: after eating, try to stay still a few minutes, breathe deeply and slowly, and sometimes that will calm your system down.
When I'm in remission, my poops are all clustered in the morning, but when I have any kind of inflammation (even if it's mild enough I wouldn't call it a big-deal flare) I also need to after meals. Some kind of meds - and like Quincy, I'm a fan of treating from the bottom end - ought to
calm the inflammation.
Diagnosed UP 1983, Azulphidine
Diagnosed UC 1986 Prednisone almost 2 years
Asacol - 16 pills a day
Metamucil - 2 doses a day
Cortenemas or Rowasa from time to time
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Canasa as needed


Blue220
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   Posted 8/30/2009 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
This thread made me feel better. No one really believes me that I don't want 'even a bite of food' if we're out and away from a bathroom. I just don't want to deal with what will happen so I don't have anything.
22 years old

Diagnosed with moderate/severe UC June 2007, I've had it since December 2006.

Haven't been on here in a while (finally graduated college).
Update as of 5/26/09 - Now taking Imuran 100mg/day.
2 Lialda/day.
Vitamins - Caltrate+D, iron, A, B12,
Flintstone Complete+iron, and aloe vera pills/juice.
At least I'm off the Entocort. =]


pb4
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   Posted 8/30/2009 12:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I poop first thing everyday when I wake up and not just once (even though I'm doing much better with not going 30+ times a day) I'm still flaring, and I don't usually eat my first meal of the day until supper time, yet I go on average 5 times a day before eating (sometimes less, sometimes more) and after I eat OR even during eating I sometimes have to go, so it really doesn't have as much to do with eating stimulating the bowels cuz like I said in my first line, I go more than enough times from the time I wake up before I even eat anything.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/30/2009 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   
pb4...you mean you get up in the morning and don't eat all day? or do you get up late in the day and eat supper like breakfast?





Laura...you can say that your mouth and butt are in sync...as soon as your mouth opens to eat, so does your butt. Maybe people will get the idea from there.

q
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


pb4
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   Posted 8/30/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
It depends Q, when we went away for baseball weekend trips this summer, I'd be up at 7am to get "ready" to go and wouldn't have my first meal until maybe as late as 6pm that same day, sometimes (depending on scheduled games, even later like 8pmish).

My regular at home routine during school (I have a 16 yr old son in high school), I get up at 7:15am, get him breakfast (I don't eat), then go back to bed until about 10am (in the winter/cold/wet/windy days, I drive my son to school which is basically a 10 minute (there and back total) drive depending on traffic at about 8:15am, get home and go back to bed til about 10am and I don't eat when I get up for the day until usually around supper time at 5pm.

I was never a breakfast eater really and getting sick this this DD turned me into a lunch skipper too...but I eat a healthy supper and eat healthy snacks (but not alot of food cuz I eat healthy with fruits and veggies, it doesn't take much to fill me up).

I still have great energy and there is the odd time mid afternoon before supper that I'll have a yogurt smoothy, but in general I don't even feel hungry til supper (during my normal at home routines) those baseball weekend trips were a little rough at times cuz obviously the longer you're awake, the sooner you get hungry.


:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


quincy
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   Posted 8/30/2009 1:18 PM (GMT -6)   
wow...you'd definitely survive during a famine..lol...I'd starve to death for sure.

Interesting how we're hardwired....

Thanks for the clarification...not that I'm horrified, just bewildered as to how someone can function as such. But you clearly are...lol...

quincy
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 8/30/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I am another person who can go all day without eating. I don't like to do it but some days I am not hungry at all and it doesn't bother me. No matter how hungry I am, I know I can wait another few hours and I'll be fine. I have friends who have to eat on a schedule or they are miserable to be around. When I was flaring I would literally not eat until I got home from work. That would be anywhere between the hours of 4 and 6pm. I had no choice really, I couldn't get much work done if I was in the bathroom all day. I still had to use the toilet a few times even without eating anything. People would always try to push snacks on me but I knew I couldn't have any or I would spend the rest of the day on the toilet. Nice way to live huh?
Diagnosed with mild proctitis in March 2007: Treated with Canasa (as needed)
Horrible relapse: August 08 - December 08: Began treating with Asacol 400mg (9/day) + Canasa 2x/day - Anemic
Canasa nightly + Asacol (9/day) + Probiotics + Iron
 


pb4
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   Posted 8/30/2009 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Ya Q, but I exersice at about 1pm and don't like to have anything in my tummy before doing that either, plus I workout for about an hour and after that I don't desire eating either, so it actually works out well for me especially since we do eat supper at 5pm which for many is considered early. The odd time if I do feel hungry (which is rare) I won't deny myself (at least during my at home routine) unless we have plans to drive into the city or something, then I'll wait, I try and avoid having to use my port-o-pot in my van if I don't have to.


:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

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