Anyone try ionized water as a remedy?

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twoply
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   Posted 8/31/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
A friend sent me this info and I was wondering if anyone has tried this or is familiar with it. Thanks.

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fruitgirl
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   Posted 8/31/2009 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
That's full of a lot of scientific mis-information, IMO.
Status: Remission since May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Currently meds: Apriso (4 0.375g pills ONCE!! daily), mesalamine enema twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, and Zoloft (currently tapering; 12.5 mg).


jujub
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   Posted 8/31/2009 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Your digestive tract is not dirty. The body is exquisitely balanced to manage wastes, primarily using the liver and kidneys. More money is taken from desparate people in the name of "colon cleansing" than you could imagine.

Try this if you must, but please continue with your medications and don't bust your budget on it.
Judy
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Moderate to severe left-sided UC diagnosed 2001. Flared for 5 years, finally in remission with Remicade since March 2006. Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri.
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Dr-A
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   Posted 8/31/2009 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Done that and done enemas with it. Unless you turn off the immune system you won't remedy the UC.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


quincy
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   Posted 8/31/2009 10:00 PM (GMT -6)   
try not to get too desperate.

Do a lot more reading on why UC is the way it is rather than believing too much of the "fantastic" realm where remedies come from.

But, people have good intentions in sending you that stuff I guess...but the information is definitely wrong.

quincy
*Heather* Status: ...Asacol 3 twice daily; Salofalk enemas every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 @ 2x daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care + Primadophilus Reuteri). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
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mindstyle
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   Posted 9/1/2009 4:05 AM (GMT -6)   
My feeling is same as fruitgirl. There is a lot of misinformation.
From few sentences, its clear that Ionized water contains free reactive species (carrying negatively charged 'particles') You would be surprised to know that these are called as Reactive Oxygen Species(ROS) in scientific world and our body has a defense mechanism to combat them. If something is SOO useful to your body, I wonder why body would develop a defense mechanism against them?
My feeling is, if such water is charged as they claim, it would do more harm than benefit and I would complete disregard this information.
Male, Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis since 2006, at the age of 30 years

Currently taking
100mg of Azathioprine, twice a day
2250mg of Balsalazide Hydrochloride, 3X a day
1mg of Vit. B12, once a day
500mg Salazopyrine suppository once a day.

30mg/day of Prednisolone since 2009/08/21 to control recent flare up, will reduce the dose by 5mg each week. (hoping not to swell up)

250mg Neproxen as and when required for migraine (usually twice a week and I don't know if this is side-effect of Salazopyrine)


LuckyLindy
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   Posted 9/1/2009 10:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Ionized water is simply water that has a high ph (more basic). When a basic (like this water), hits an acid (like your stomach acid), it neutralizes. Within seconds your ionized water is no more ionized than tap water ... pretty hard to believe that it would have any impact.

That said, I always liked the taste of ionized water (a friend spent $4,000 on some crazy Japanese water ionization device). At the highest (most basic) ph, it tastes like fresh glacier water at the source .... yummy.
33 year old male
diagnosed severe pancolitis in 2004, unresponsive to all drugs
turned down recommendation to have j-pouch surgery
have been mostly symptom free since 2004 via diet modification (removed all carbs)


BobMcCauley
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   Posted 9/1/2009 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Twoply:

This article was plagiarized from me, Bob McCauley. I have been plagiarized numerous times and I make every effort to protect my intellectual property before it becomes part of the "public domain" and I lose control of it. This copyrighted article can be found at http://www.watershed.net/media/pdf/what-to-expect-drinking-ionized-water.pdf. I wonder who sent it to you.

Please remove my article or attribute the article properly with the appropriate link. This article can also be found in my book, The Miraculous Properties of Ionized Water.

Thank you.


Bob McCauley
 
Mr. McCauley, we apologize for this oversight. The moderators here were not aware this was copyrighted material or it would have been edited right away. This has now been corrected. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Post Edited By Moderator (Judilyn) : 9/1/2009 12:22:59 PM (GMT-6)


fruitgirl
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   Posted 9/1/2009 12:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow. That's all I'm going to say.
Status: Remission since May 2009!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Diagnosed with pancolitis on 1/30/09
Current meds: Apriso (4 0.375g pills ONCE!! daily), mesalamine enema twice weekly, Natural Factors Ultimate probiotic 12/12 Formula, OrthoNovum, multivitamin.


twoply
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   Posted 9/1/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow is right. He could have been more helpful by explaining his position on ionized water. Oh well.
Dx w/ UP in 2005; Dx with UC in 2008
Was taking: Lialda and Mesalmine Enema (1x per day); Colazal (9 per day);
Now Taking: Pred-a 10 mg/day down from 40mg but experiencing bone loss; Apriso - 4 per day; mesalmine enema nightly
Tricor for Cholesterol
Male; age 43; Located in Atlanta


mindstyle
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   Posted 9/2/2009 7:33 AM (GMT -6)   
@twoply, thats exactly was my reaction too.
@Judilyn, could you please post his link in the original post as well, new reader won't look down to search for author's link.
Male, Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis since 2006, at the age of 30 years

Currently taking
100mg of Azathioprine, twice a day
2250mg of Balsalazide Hydrochloride, 3X a day
1mg of Vit. B12, once a day
500mg Salazopyrine suppository once a day.

30mg/day of Prednisolone since 2009/08/21 to control recent flare up, will reduce the dose by 5mg each week. (hoping not to swell up)

250mg Neproxen as and when required for migraine (usually twice a week and I don't know if this is side-effect of Salazopyrine)

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