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Peety
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Posted 1/18/2010 12:36 PM (GMT -7)
Does anyone know how many (if any) years Remicade would be protected from being produced as a generic if the biologics exclusivity period was limited to 12 years? (such as may be included in a final health reform bill).

Geeky question. Just curious. Might be significant...


49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985. 

Asacol for 20+ years with Prednisone & Rowasa for flares (But nothing since Remicade). 

Food sensitivity test by Naturopath showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances, helped some. 

Remicade started April 2009 (Humira denied) and doing great~ learning what normal is~ wow

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Red_34
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Posted 1/19/2010 5:30 AM (GMT -7)
Bumping this up for Peety.

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tap
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Posted 1/19/2010 8:01 AM (GMT -7)
Remicade's patent expires in 2018.

See www.biotechnologyhealthcare.com/journal/journaldisplay.cfm?aid=3/4/BH0304022.pdf.
44 - male - Diagnosed with pancolitis in 1998
   Vitamin D3 - 5000 IU once per day;
   Psyllium Seed Powder (2 teaspoons) - twice per day; Flaxseed (2 tablespoons ground) - once per day;
   Asacol - 2 400mg pills 3 times per day; Mesalamine Enema - twice per week;
   Prednisone - 40mg taper - started 10/30/2009 - finish 01/21/2010

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Katmom
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Posted 1/19/2010 8:17 AM (GMT -7)
I'll be broke by then-this Remi's killing us---I know, I know, a small price to pay to save a colon. I'm truly grateful, but can't help wishing it were more affordable.
Daughter, 16 diagnosed 1-08 w/ UC .
Previous drug sampling: Asacol, Cortifoam enemas, Rowasa,Prevacid, Flagyl, Prednisone- 50 mg to 0, 4 major flares '08-09.Hospital 4 x.
Trying probiotics, Niferex, fish oil, Magnesium, Acupuncture.
Remicade 10mg per kilo@ 8wks, since 10-08. Still on 6mp and Colazal W/ Remi. Remission. 4-09....

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Eva Lou
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Posted 1/19/2010 8:27 AM (GMT -7)
I heard something about the biologics not being as likely to go generic, since they are so tough to make. It's not like Valium, say, where there's a formula like "2 parts XXX, 3 parts YYY, 1/2 part Z = Valium". Every time they make a biologic it's sort of a crap shoot- it may or may not "work", & actually produce the drug. I have no problem with generic meds, but the thought of generic biologics sort of creeps me out. Not sure why! I can't understand the insurers making people responsible for high copays... NO ONE can afford it, maybe 1 or 2 infusion, but months & months worth??? If I had to pay for my biologics I would have had to get surgery years ago, no joke- we simply do not have that kind of cash. Plus, I personally would feel to guilty, spending $$$ on my own meds as opposed to my family. That's my own issue!
diagnosed with UC '02

meds-

Asacol- 8 tabs/day

Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10

Humira- started 1/10

Imuran- 150mgs/day

various probiotics & fiber supplement

 

 

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jujub
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Posted 1/19/2010 10:06 AM (GMT -7)
Heck, I feel a little guilty spending insurance dollars for Remicade! Took me a long time to get over feeling like a drain on the system, that one person in a thousand who's driving up health care costs for everyone, etc.

My copays recently went from $300 per infusion (until I reached my out of pocket max) to $0. That's wonderful, but I do know it increases health care costs for everyone else in my insurance group also.
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fargman
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Posted 1/19/2010 10:54 AM (GMT -7)
If I'm not mistaken, it takes a great deal of time (around a year) to make a vial of Remi. At least that's what they told me at my doctor's office. They told me it would mostly likely never be generic. Thankfully (for now) I have good insurance that cover most of it.
Diagnosed '93.

Asacol, Remicade (every 6 weeks), Imuran.

Currently in remission.

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Eva Lou
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Posted 1/19/2010 11:08 AM (GMT -7)
Yeah but Judy, you're paying those increased costs too, along with everyone else. I never felt guilty for using more than my "allotted" insurance coverage. I see it as, if I have the insurance, you bet I'm gonna use it as hard & heavy as I can! We pay a LOT for it, so I intend to take full advantage of it. I'm terrified of losing it anyway, so I try to use as much of it as I can. And I think you're right, fargman- it does take a while to make the biologics. I just can't see them going generic. Interesting question though.... I bet the drug makers are not thrilled with that prospect!


diagnosed with UC '02

meds-

Asacol- 8 tabs/day

Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10

Humira- started 1/10

Imuran- 150mgs/day

various probiotics & fiber supplement

 

 

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Scrap Girl
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Posted 1/19/2010 2:29 PM (GMT -7)
Katmom, have you looked into Remicade's assistance program, Remistart? To qualify, you have to have insurance and the medication has to cost you more than $50 but it pays up to $550 per infusion.
Diagnosed with UC in Feb. 2005

Colazal (9 a day)

Folic Acid

Biotin

Calcium

Remicade

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ColitisBgone
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Posted 1/20/2010 1:13 AM (GMT -7)
I agree with Judy... feel like a drain on the system. I guess as long as it works and you have insurance there is no reason not to, but it seems like we do cause a serious problem for insurance companies.
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Scrap Girl
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Posted 1/20/2010 2:07 PM (GMT -7)
The thing about it is at some point in most people's life they will likely come down with something and "drain" the system as well. I figure I was healthy for 32 years of my life and filed a minimal number of claims. It's definitely something I don't lose any sleep over. I think if you asked people if they would rather have a disease or help offset the costs of it I don't think you would find a lot of UC takers.
Diagnosed with UC in Feb. 2005

Colazal (9 a day)

Folic Acid

Biotin

Calcium

Remicade

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Eva Lou
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Posted 1/20/2010 4:47 PM (GMT -7)
This is interesting so many feel to be a drain on the system- I've never felt that way. In all reality, I'm surely paying for someone else draining the system, so I figure it all comes out equal in the end. Why would we want insurance if not to use it when need be? If I had to pay out of pocket, then I'd feel guilty, taking $$$ away from my family personally. But taking it from the nameless, faceless insurance companies??? No way. I've always been fairly healthy, but have had more than my fair share of autoimmune disorders over the past 2 decades, all of which have incurred hefty bills. Even a "routine" childbirth gets you quite a large hospital bill! And honestly, in the grand scheme of things, "we" can't be causing too many problems for the insurance companies- if we were, you can bet they'd drop coverage of biologics ASAP for things like UC, & only offer to pay for a proctocolectomy.
diagnosed with UC '02

meds-

Asacol- 8 tabs/day

Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10

Humira- started 1/10

Imuran- 150mgs/day

various probiotics & fiber supplement

 

 

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