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I hear your point and i respond thus:
According to the theory children in the developed world encounter far less germs and worms than children in the third world. Children in the developed world also have adults around them who use disinfectants to clean surfaces. They drink chlorinated water, and they are treated with antibiotics/worming tablets regularly.
Children in the third world don't grow up to have hayfever, ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease at the rates we do, this has been scientifically proven.
So I would say yes, I stand by the theory that too much hygiene upsetting the balance of flora/fauna in our guts triggers the underlying genetic predisposition
And further would say that predisposition is there in some people not as a genetic flaw or error in their make-up but as an evolutionary response to living with parasites for millenia. We are symbiotic and those predisposed to our conditions have a highly evolved immune system that relies on having those parasites to function properly. Take them away and some of us malfunction more than others.
Hello, yes correct!
And guess what.... antibiotics triggered the condition in me, too. Doxycycline as a prophylactic against malaria....
hello there, I LOVE the way your mind works. Yes I have been thinking along these lines as well. And your reasoning on skin cancer is very interesting parallel. I could add environmental dimension to that, too.... eg: pale skin predisposes you, radiation from the sun causes it.... and lack of ozone layer protecting from the sun's rays has increased the cancer rate.
In the southern parts of Australia where we get ozone depleted air in the upper atmosphere, the skin cancer rates have rocketed in the past 50 years. Now 1/3 of us get skin cancer here.
I reckon same with UC as well. Genetic predisposition plus environmental trigger.... something is doing it. But whatever is doing it, I think the probiotics/worms might help turn the trigger back off again.
Well that is amazing your daughter has never had antibiotics. That is the very first child I have ever come across to not have had them.
However, I feel this does not disprove the theory
Because according to the hygiene theory your daughter is still in a Western country where diseases and worms have been eradicated steadily over the past 50 years.
It may be the necessary bacteria that protect our gut are now totally absent from the biosphere in your area, as opposed to say Ethiopia.
You have no doubt had antibiotics in your life, as would your partner and other people in your neighbourhood. Five years ago when your daughter was born, if she could not get the bugs from you or family or outside then the theory would still hold.
Now if she rolled in the dirt in Ethiopia, then I reckon that would be truly massive.
I sometimes wonder if hormones might play a part too. For you, puberty. I noticed back when I still had symptoms that they were worse around the time of my period. Not sure if that was just added pressure from cramping though.
That is really interesting. I was not aware of animals being diagnosed with UC. Anything a human can get, though, an animal can get too.
Still, it stands to reason that any animal that goes to the vet to be diagnosed probably has the kind of owner that would would also deworm it.
I don't know about
animals and their illnesses. I just know that in human populations of people that grew up in unsanitary third world conditions, like ethiopia, don't have UC. Give them worming tablets, clean them up and send them to say... Israel, and all of a sudden allergy rates, UC and Crohn's sprout up at first world levels. This actually happened with a group of Ethiopian Jews relocated.
Bye everyone all the best, if you think this theory is worth a go try it, what have you got to lose, our condition is life-long after all.
But if you try it, I'd say don't try it half-baked. Like don't take one strain of probiotics and expect it to work... variety. I think our condition needs as much variety of organisms as possible. That is the theory.
Female, 36. Diagnosed December 2009 after 4 months of pain, blood and mucous.
sulfasalazine prescribed but never taken as my flare went away with small liquid meals, probiotics and vitamins.