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dfordays
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   Posted 1/3/2014 6:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Just curious, has anyone on here tried Bioresonance Therapy? I've heard of it in the past, never looked into it too much until now. But a friend of mine knows a girl who's had Crohn's for years, and has always been extremely sick from it. Past little while she's been in remission and doing extremely well, and she told my friend she did Bioresonance therapy. She had one treatment, and all her symptoms were gone within 24 hours.

Sounds crazy, something I'd normally never believe but my friends known her for years and has seen her progression and couldn't believe how good she looked the other day. She gave him the contact info where she got it done, and he passed it onto me.

So today I called the clinic, the lady sounded extremely confident. Said she has cured 100% of the Colitis, Crohn's, and IBS patients. She told me with how sick I am, it may take 2 treatments (versus the usual 1). She's been doing it for years and has treated over 150 patients with these diseases and never once had someone not go into remission right away.

It's a two hour treatment, she hooks me up to the machine and I just lie there for a few hours, and I should walk out feeling like a million bucks. Seems almost too good to be true, but the science behind it does seem promising. Not to mention it's much more believable since this information came directly from a friend of a friend who had great success with it.

So has anyone else heard of this treatment, or tried it?

Thanks!
22 year old male
Diagnosed March 2010
Severe Pan-colitis
Been in a flaire up since diagnosed, 70% of the time since diagnosed I've been having 30+ BM per day, lot's of blood loss, 40 pounds lighter than when I'm healthy
Tried Remicade, Immuran, Prednisone, 5-ASA, Cortiform, Fecal Transplants, all have failed
Trying to get in remission with natural suppliments

TroubledTurds
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   Posted 1/3/2014 6:29 PM (GMT -7)   
never heard of it - you would think with that kind of cure rate, she'd offer a money back guarantee ?
diagnosed with pancolitis december 21, 2003
in submission - no meds
current supplements: vit D, cal/mag, Primadophilus Reuteri & GOL Raw Men, Wild Harvest Inflamma Shield -
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fruitgirl
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   Posted 1/3/2014 7:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Honestly, anyone who claims a 100% success rate with curing ANY disease is a quack.
Symptomatic remission as of 5/2009
Colonoscopy in 10/2011 showed no inflammation
Symptoms began in 11/2008, 4 weeks after birth of first child; diagnosed with pancolitis 1/2009.
Second child born 3/2013; no post-partum flare up.
Meds: Apriso (Four 0.375 g pills once daily), Mesalamine enema twice weekly, multivitamin, vitamin D, probiotic. Used prednisone to gain remission.

Levi
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   Posted 1/3/2014 7:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Do have any links showing the science behind it? I'm not being snarky-I'll give ANYTHING a shot-but I do like to see data first before considering something
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dfordays
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   Posted 1/3/2014 8:00 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with you guys. I've tried every treatment I know about and everything's failed, it's made me skeptical of many different forms of treatment. The only reason I have some faith in this is because I heard it from someone I've known for years and who is one of my closest friends. I'm certainly not counting on it 100%, but at this point I believe everything is worth trying. I attached a YouTube video on the science behind it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7884jLb7bA

I also should mention, it's only $120 for a 2 hours treatment. Certainly worth a shot considering how inexpensive it is. The lady who does it is on vacation right now, but I should be able to get in and see her next weekend. She herself was also a Colitis patient, and had severe allergies to fruit. Both have disappeared after she received the first treatment herself years ago.
22 year old male
Diagnosed March 2010
Severe Pan-colitis
Been in a flaire up since diagnosed, 70% of the time since diagnosed I've been having 30+ BM per day, lot's of blood loss, 40 pounds lighter than when I'm healthy
Tried Remicade, Immuran, Prednisone, 5-ASA, Cortiform, Fecal Transplants, all have failed
Trying to get in remission with natural suppliments

TroubledTurds
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   Posted 1/3/2014 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
hey, folks pay a lot more than that to have someone shoot poop up their butts !
diagnosed with pancolitis december 21, 2003
in submission - no meds
current supplements: vit D, cal/mag, Primadophilus Reuteri & GOL Raw Men, Wild Harvest Inflamma Shield -
no gluten, rice, corn, soy or sugar - just good, healthy food, lots of all natural well water, exercise, sleep as much as possible & enjoy this great life that God has blessed me with -

Edbar
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   Posted 1/3/2014 8:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Churey, does the lady use the same Bicom machine that is in the youtube link you posted?

dfordays
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   Posted 1/4/2014 7:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Edbar; I'm not sure. That's the video I was told to watch though so I'm assuming it is. Since she's away on vacation I only spoke briefly to her, so all I posted is all the info I know at the moment.

Curious if anyone can look up on Google and see if they have and Bioresonance Therapists in their area, and maybe call and ask them on the success rate for colitis? In the video they say its above 90%, would be interested to see what other people with experience say about it.
22 year old male
Diagnosed March 2010
Severe Pan-colitis
Been in a flaire up since diagnosed, 70% of the time since diagnosed I've been having 30+ BM per day, lot's of blood loss, 40 pounds lighter
Tried Remicade, Immuran, Prednisone, 5-ASA, Cortiform, Fecal Transplants, all have failed
Trying to get in remission with natural suppliments
Currently on VSL#3, Slipper Elm enema, LDN

DBwithUC
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   Posted 1/4/2014 7:49 AM (GMT -7)   
the whole thing smells, they way you presented it, the elements of your script, "thinking of trying it", "friend of a friend", "science behind it", 90% success rate with UC" .... it is scam bullcrap, whether you are dupe or author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioresonance_therapy said...
Bioresonance therapy is a pseudo-scientific medical concept which is a derivative of electromagnetic therapy[citation needed] in alternative medicine and similar to the E-Meter used in Scientology.

According to Quackwatch the therapy is completely senseless and the proposed mechanism of action impossible.


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/bioresonance.html said...
Moreover, the treatment method is completely senseless. In 1998, the Web site had 26 case reports, most of which involved patients treated in 1997 or 1998. The reports had few details and include little or no follow-up information. The reports indicated that the diagnosis was made by examining the patient with ampules of various cancer cells or other substances in the device's matrix, and the contents of the ampules are electromagnetically modified in some way and administered to the patient.

Current Status

In November 2004, I noticed that the New Hope Clinic's Web site, which had been active during the early part of the year, was no longer online. However, I located the Web site of the BICOM 2000 device's manufacturer (Regumed GmbH), which states:

Bioresonance therapy is a therapy with patient’s own electromagnetic frequency patterns. The patient’s own electromagnetic oscillations of his body are received by electrodes working as an antenna and fed into the device. The BICOM device changes the body’s own information with the help of special electronic systems into therapy signals, which are returned to the patient by the output cable. Due to this method the electromagnetic pathologic information in the body is eliminated i.e. reduced. The patient and the therapy device enter a feedback cycle .

What is “resonance”? An example: If you hit a tuning-fork in a room containing a piano, the corresponding string in this piano begins to resonate too. A further extraordinary discovery is the fact that cells communicate with each other by means of certain wavelengths (frequencies). Where this form of communication remains unimpaired by disturbance frequencies, the person in question is considered to be healthy. A toxin, for example, entering the body, has disturbed frequency patterns which interfere with the body’s own regulatory powers and in turn impair the body’s functions. Using the BICOM device, frequency patterns, which cause illness, can be transformed into therapeutically effective frequency patterns

The BICOM device makes the transition into Bioresonance particularly easy. Over 400 indications are stored in our therapy programmes. These programmes contain the experience gained from 20 years’ work in Bioresonance. The therapist needs only to enter the programme number, place the electrodes on the patient and press the start button. The device switches itself off automatically once a therapy programme is complete. . . . As well as being used for therapy, the BICOM device is excellent for diagnosis too .

According to Regumed, "some 4,500 doctors from all specialties and non-medical practitioners around the world are working with BICOM Bioresonance Therapy." I find this amazing because no device of this type has been demonstrated to be useful in treating any health problem.



Moreover, these were the top two google results. Do you not google? Have you not seen any of the sites debunking it? Why would you post this crap here - especially with that scripted "oh so pat" story in your original post? People here are sick and do not need to be screwed with.

I don't see any acceptable answers to these questions. No senario where you look innocent, or good. ... You have to be in on the con. I hope others here judge you as I have.

Post Edited (DBwithUC) : 1/4/2014 8:01:09 AM (GMT-7)


dfordays
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   Posted 1/4/2014 8:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Jeez someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Why do you feel I should be judged? What did I do wrong? I asked a question about a treatment, which is exactly what this forum is for. For people to ask questions and try to get better. I never once said it would work, I never once promoted it, and I never stated that it is the cure. I simply stated what I've heard, and wanted to ask here if anyone has heard about it. No need to get your panties in a bunch over it. Also this "friend of a friend" that you seem to be so skeptical about, is the only reason I'm even wanting to give this a shot. The guy I heard it from has been one of my closest friends for years and there's no way he'd make something up like this. Still doesn't mean it'll work for me though.

And of course I use Google. Who doesn't? I've read the negative claims, I've also read the positive ones. Just about every treatment has both. Doesn't mean it's not worth a shot.

Anyways. Does anyone have anything positive to say or anymore input?
22 year old male
Diagnosed March 2010
Severe Pan-colitis
Been in a flaire up since diagnosed, 70% of the time since diagnosed I've been having 30+ BM per day, lot's of blood loss, 40 pounds lighter
Tried Remicade, Immuran, Prednisone, 5-ASA, Cortiform, Fecal Transplants, all have failed
Trying to get in remission with natural suppliments
Currently on VSL#3, Slipper Elm enema, LDN

Probiotic
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   Posted 1/4/2014 9:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Never met a new-age alternative practitioner who wasn't extremely confident that they would knock out my IBD, and none really did a thing for me in the end. It's good business for them to project that confidence. If you cant find any evidence for a therapy on pubmed, not even on animals, then it is probably nonsense, but if it is affordable it can always be worth trying-- even a placebo effect is an effect, and some docs are now actively employing placebo therapy as a tool in the mind/body healing arsenal. A fair percentage of rx drugs effectiveness is probably due to placebo effect considering how clinical data is skewed to win fast track approval for profitable new drugs.
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Edbar
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   Posted 1/4/2014 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
The response by DBwithUC is the exact reason why I haven't posted about my experience with bioresonance therapy on this site. I was not prepared to waste my time posting about a treatment that has worked wonders for my son only to be shot down and quite frankly disrespected in the same way DBwithUC has just done to churey360. This site, I thought, was all about sharing personal experiences with others who may benefit. 
Churey360, my 10 year old son has been having bioresonance therapy using the Bicom machine since June and his improvements have been remarkable.  That's why I was asking if the lady uses Bicom. We have done many treatments since June to get to where we are now. So I do question if only one treatment will do it. I will email you with more information if you like. The guy we use is having amazing results. This comes from the people I talk to directly who go to his office.
And before I get slammed for promoting bioresonance, this treatment may not work for everyone.

TheAnswersYouSeek
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   Posted 1/4/2014 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
((Hug Edbar)). I put dbwithuc on ignore week one. I'm glad you are sharing. I of course thought of you when I saw this and have been so happy for you guys and your results. I do think all those herbs are pretty integral too. You guys have done so much work!

Edbar
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   Posted 1/4/2014 10:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks PK, I agree the herbs have helped a lot too.

garylouisville
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   Posted 1/4/2014 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I personally believe it is a load of crap. If it was even 20% successful my GI would not be busy at all and there would be a line going around the block at this place. At 100% our GI's and other doctors would have to get a job flipping burgers. There is such a thing as the placebo factor and if any of these treatments actually worked in anyone it would be mainly due to that placebo factor. I agree with Fruitgirl when she said no treatment for any disease anywhere has a 100% success rate. If you need a slick advertising video to convince someone to try something (for a cost) then it is my opinion that you are getting scammed. Let's not forget the more views a youtube video gets, the more money that person makes.
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MaxMilian
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   Posted 1/4/2014 11:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Churey, ignore DBwithUC. He/she always gives those highly aggressive and accusative responses. He/she needs a punching bag to get all the anger out.

I do admit, the therapy sounds suspicious. Having said that, i would give anything a try if i was feeling terribly ill. Even if the therapy helps due to its placebo effect, I wouldnt care how I got better, so long as I got better. I would pay for a placebo effect if that actually made me well again.
2010: DX proctitis, IBS, cecum inflammation
2012: DX Crohns? (mild ulcers on terminal ileum), fructose + sorbitol malabsorption, non-toxigenic c.diff
Things I've Tried: Pentasa (Oral and rectal), Salofalk (Oral), FMTs (6 infusions)
STATUS: 23/03/2013 c-scope + biopsies showed zero inflammation. Still have IBS
CURRENT MEDS: Pentasa supps + oral tabs

Post Edited (MaxMilian) : 1/4/2014 11:08:57 AM (GMT-7)


DBwithUC
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   Posted 1/4/2014 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Well I knew pathogenkiller was an extremist, promoting a germ causes UC (and they will kill the germ soon) agenda/prayer. Edbar seemed flaky but harmless, but now I think more foolish (and possibly liar) than flaky.

churey360 admits to seeing all the negative (seriously negative) information, but somehow never made any reference to it is what was supposed to be an open and honest OP.

Yeah right.

Must be I just got up on the wrong side of the bed. Could not possibly be that the whole post smelled. ... and wow, after seeing the negative/debunking information, churey360 even manages to say "there seems to be science behind it". What a laugh.
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   Posted 1/4/2014 11:16 AM (GMT -7)   
DBwithUC said...
Edbar seemed flaky but harmless, but now I think more foolish (and possibly liar) than flaky.

You got some serious issues. open up you mind and maybe you might be well one day. And who the hell are you to call me foolish and a liar. You want proof; I'll give you proof; my son is well, no meds no symptoms for 6 months; and guess what you aint. If you don't have anything constructive to post then just shut up.

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   Posted 1/4/2014 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Heh... He attacked me when I posted friggin PICTURES of a pathogen from my scope. Some people are just miserable and looking for a fight. It's much harder to get well then stay sick.

To get well you must believe you can get well, you must act on that belief and you must let go of any baggage that keeps you from getting there.


Getting well can't happen when our emotions are diseased. But the disease also causes the emotions, so you gotta just wave to the ******s who all rode your ass a couple miles back when you see them broke down on the side of the road.. Take a breath and keep telling your story.

The people in the trenches need these stories so that they keep trying. Please don't let folks that have given up steal the importance of your story.

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   Posted 1/4/2014 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Perhaps giving false hope to chronically ill people is actually a cruel thing?

There is good cause to question, and give opinions as to the validity of, all treatment options put forward in open forum. There are so many anecdotal stories involving potential therapies, some far from being reasonable.

People may understandably take personal offense to scrutiny, when the only thing that can be said is “it worked for me.” However there are often too many variables involved to accept that as any proof of efficacy.

Not having either coherent arguments, or studies, is concerning to most.
Even so, trying new things is sometimes part of the process, and wisely undertaken with great caution.

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   Posted 1/4/2014 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
When Edbar posts her truth she should not be called a liar, that is against forum rules.
DBwithUC deserves a timeout.

This forum should be a safe place for real people (not scammers) to post what they know, what has given them positive benefits.

I was/am a bit suspicious of the OP's post but not of Edbar's.
Question the data, do not make personal remarks about people who have established themselves as legit. I don't think there are "sleeper cells" here. Well... maybe bacteria but not human ones.
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dfordays
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   Posted 1/5/2014 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Edbar; If you could email me with more info that would be great! My contact info can be found in my profile.

So basically other than Edbar, no one has heard of it and thinks it's a load of crap. Who knows! Very well could be. I'm still going to give it a shot though. I actually found an RMT who does this in her clinic who lives near me. She's open tomorrow so I'll see if I can get started on it tomorrow. On her website it says patients normally need around 5 treatments to feel better, but she also only runs the machine for an hour versus 2 hours. So who knows. If I'm able to get an appointment for tomorrow I'll let everyone know how it goes!
22 year old male
Diagnosed March 2010
Severe Pan-colitis
Been in a flaire up since diagnosed, 70% of the time since diagnosed I've been having 30+ BM per day, lot's of blood loss, 40 pounds lighter
Tried Remicade, Immuran, Prednisone, 5-ASA, Cortiform, Fecal Transplants, all have failed
Trying to get in remission with natural suppliments
Currently on VSL#3, Slipper Elm enema, LDN

garylouisville
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   Posted 1/5/2014 10:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Are you saying this costs a total of $1000? Also seems like tricky wording to me. First she says she has a 100% cure rate and now she is saying that after 5 treatments you will "feel better". Sorry for being a skeptic.
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   Posted 1/5/2014 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
It's a different person I'm talking about. The first lady who said she's (so far) had a 100% cure rate is on Vacation and gets back next week. So I found a clinic that does it and they're open tomorrow. This clinic charges $50 for one hour.
22 year old male
Diagnosed March 2010
Severe Pan-colitis
Been in a flaire up since diagnosed, 70% of the time since diagnosed I've been having 30+ BM per day, lot's of blood loss, 40 pounds lighter
Tried Remicade, Immuran, Prednisone, 5-ASA, Cortiform, Fecal Transplants, all have failed
Trying to get in remission with natural suppliments
Currently on VSL#3, Slipper Elm enema, LDN

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   Posted 1/6/2014 6:47 AM (GMT -7)   
I did some searching and found Biophysical Therapy of Allergies By Peter Schumacher which I found fascinating.

What is discussed in the book may be applicable to my condition given that I bleed within 24 hours of consuming wheat.

I found the above source from this paper on this website.

As long as I make all of my own meals where I am in control of all of the ingredients then I am healthy. I have been to two family gatherings this past year and although I tried to confirm the foods were safe for me to eat both times I was bleeding within 24 hours of the meals.
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