CBD Oil for inflammation?

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dinkydonuts
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   Posted 3/12/2014 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   
So I hope discussion of this is allowed as you can now buy commercially produced CBD (Cannabidiol) oil that is extracted from 50-state legal hemp crops.

Anyway, CBD is a non-THC containing extract of a particular molecule from the Cannabis plant. I believe this means it does NOT get you high. However, CBD has been shown to be very potent for inflammation and anxiety.

I doubt this will put you into remission from UC, but I know we all deal with crippling pain and one can only take so much Tylenol before you start worrying about your liver health. I'm not a candidate for opioid based pain killers as I have enough trouble with constipation.

Since it is an oil, I've seen it in candies, sodas, mints, gum, tinctures, and even for use in e-cig as a vapor.

Has anyone tried it yet?

warrior.princess
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   Posted 3/13/2014 2:45 AM (GMT -7)   
I havent tried cbd oil but I live in california and got my cannabis card to try a high cbd and very low (.9% which is basically none) thc strain. I heard it helped with pain, and there is scientific evidence that it reduces inflammation. I tried it and since cbd acts as a stimulant, I just felt as if I had had a cup of coffee :/ im extremely sensitive to caffeine so I couldn't deal with that side effect. As much as I would love to continue using cdb for the anti inflammatory benefits, I just cant stand the jitters. If you are ok with caffeine then it probably won't effect you the way it did me. My husband tried it and told me it took away his knee pain and after using it 4 times he said he no longer has knee inflammation or pain at all anymore.
25 stay at home mom of two

Kidney issues since 2007
Diagnosed with UC june 2013

Past medications: Canasa, Rowasa, Lialda, Prednisone, Flagyl, Remicade

Out of a 2 month severe flare with current treatment: Nicotine therapy via e cig, and delzicol

warrior.princess
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   Posted 3/13/2014 2:46 AM (GMT -7)   
If you go to projectcbd.com there is a ton of info on cbd and its benefits
25 stay at home mom of two

Kidney issues since 2007
Diagnosed with UC june 2013

Past medications: Canasa, Rowasa, Lialda, Prednisone, Flagyl, Remicade

Out of a 2 month severe flare with current treatment: Nicotine therapy via e cig, and delzicol

ItsAlwaysSomething
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   Posted 3/13/2014 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Interesting info on CBD:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22163000

May soon be able to get CBD oil in Massachusetts now that medical M is legal.
Towns and cities are just figuring out how to control/handle growing, selling and legal issues.

Thanks for the mention. I was unaware of this particular application.
IAS :-)
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Colazal generic (balsalazide) and mesalamine enemas. Nexabiotic (formerly Benebiotics) probiotic, Starwest organic slippery elm powder, L-Glutamine, calcium, vit D3, fish oil and iron
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pmedic
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   Posted 3/13/2014 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I have wanted to try it but it is not legal in my state.

Warrior princess, is it normal for it to be such a stimulant? I know they give it to kids with seizures so I am surprised it has such a stimulant effect. I too am very sensitive to caffeine so now I am hesitant to try it even if it were legal here. Can you dilute it or reduce the dose so it won't be so potent?
Dx:Ulcerative Colitis March 2008
Dx: Crohns May 2008
Avascular necrosis bilateral knees from Prednisone. Surgery on left knee was Oct 2011, Right knee April 20138 blood transfusions, SVT due to low H&H, Anxiety during new medication injections due to past reactions. C-diff, pancreatitis and metabolic acidosis from medication.Currently on Lialda, Ambien, xanax(prn) D3, probiotic, Rowasa, Cimzia

toomuchpoopin
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   Posted 3/13/2014 4:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Very interesting,I wonder how Canada feels about it *off to google*
Meds:Asacol HD 2/day. Elavil 20mg/day. Supplements: Probiotic (ultimate flora 50billion) 4 Metamucil caps/day. Diagnosis:First Colonoscopy (dec2013)showed inflammation/ulcers but biopsy didnt show ibd. flex sig (feb2014) showed remaining inflammation, waiting on biopsy results, and diagnosis. IBS-D for 10+ years, diagnosed by verbal symptoms only, questioning that now....

InSoFla
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   Posted 3/16/2014 9:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I tried CBD oil for pain issues I have had since my accident, and it did nothing for it at all.

I think IMO the better anti-inflammatories are:
Paleo diet
Curcumin
And increasing your intake of omega 3's as in cod liver oil.
Rx meds didn't help me. But 4.5 mg LDN +Paleo diet +supplements=REMISSION.Protein shakes w/almond milk,Maca powder,L-Glutamine,D-Ribose,chia seeds.VSL#3,K2,VIt. D3,slippery elm bark powder.For more info,my protocol is the 11th post at this link: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=1666318
If you have any questions, you can find my email address at my profile.

ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/14/2016 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Where do u buy cbd oil?
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
Mutaflor or VSL#3

ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/14/2016 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
one more question - i've just read that cbd oil can be obtained in Poland and it is 5 %. Do u think that 5 % is enough or it should be more?
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
Mutaflor or VSL#3

U B Tough
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   Posted 8/14/2016 3:39 PM (GMT -7)   
toomuchpoopin said...
Very interesting,I wonder how Canada feels about it *off to google*



Canada loves it, eh!!

I use it occasionally. Should try a formal experiment myself.

Contentprof
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   Posted 8/14/2016 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Tried it and it didn't help me. But maybe you'll have success!
UC for >15 yrs. For flares I use Cortenemas, Prednisone. Allergic to mesalamines (hives, fever), 6mp (fever), Remicade (stopped after 6 mos due to joint pains, Anti-TNF Induced Lupus, neuropathy). On Entyvio since Oct 2015, so far ok.

Yeasty
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   Posted 8/15/2016 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
I live in Colorado and am now using Colorado Cannabis Oil that is basically Rick Simpson Oil for IBD and Colitis. I had a Colectomy and a poop bag reversal done 1 year ago. But it's been hell lately. Never thought I would be in tears going number 2. Or crapping on myself. I hate it and doctors tell me to manage it with Miralax. So I have decided to try Cannabis Oil. This is not Hemp Oil. Hemp oil is all CBD. Cannabis Oil has both THC & CBD. A 1 gram syringe has 950mg of THC. That's a ton and will make you very sleepy. But it has helped me. It's only been a week. I also smoke Indica for pain. I prefer it over pills. I will give this a chance and get back tou you all soon.

notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 8/15/2016 12:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeasty said...
I live in Colorado and am now using Colorado Cannabis Oil that is basically Rick Simpson Oil for IBD and Colitis. I had a Colectomy and a poop bag reversal done 1 year ago. But it's been hell lately. Never thought I would be in tears going number 2. Or crapping on myself. I hate it and doctors tell me to manage it with Miralax. So I have decided to try Cannabis Oil. This is not Hemp Oil. Hemp oil is all CBD. Cannabis Oil has both THC & CBD. A 1 gram syringe has 950mg of THC. That's a ton and will make you very sleepy. But it has helped me. It's only been a week. I also smoke Indica for pain. I prefer it over pills. I will give this a chance and get back tou you all soon.


Hello & welcome! You could try starting a new thread. I doubt anyone will see this here. We actually do not have many members who have undergone surgery (who are active - most have taken off and moved on with life). I suggest you check out j-pouch.org to look for some answers. You shouldn't have accidents or pain after surgery. I had surgery almost a year ago, reversal about 9 months ago, and everything has been wonderful for me. Things were tough at first, but I've been back to my old life + a few extra trips to empty my pouch.

Have you talked to your surgeon? Miralax doesn't make sense to me. Is it hard to empty? We have 2 active members who have pouchitis and they mention that it's hard to empty. Usually antibiotics are used to treat pouchitis. I would imagine you could get a script from your GI or surgeon. I personally think I'd go to my surgeon over my GI. I haven't been to my GI since prior to surgery, and really, what does she know about pouches? Probably not that much. My surgeon is involved in studies on pouch function and whatnot. I trust him more at this point I suppose. Have you had a scope to determine the status of your pouch? I had one at the 3 & 6 month mark. They do it in the office, it doesn't hurt and it takes about 5 minutes total. It's not fun, but not a big deal since it's so quick, plus it's good to know whether things look good. If there is inflammation, they would be able to offer options.

I tried MMJ for UC when I had it and it didn't provide benefit to me. Now, I would have no reason to use it medically.
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Yeasty
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   Posted 8/15/2016 1:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't have a pouch. I said I had the reversal surgery after my colectomy. They didn't get all of the diverticulitis/osis. I have horrible left side pain....or should I say had. It's better a bit since I started the mmj oil. I have diarrhea on one side of my colon and constipation on the other side. I pray it helps. I will always have Colitis...surgery or not it hangs around.

ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/15/2016 3:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeasty, is it possible to buy real and safe Rick Simpson oil in Colorado? I've read that there are many frauds selling fake rso so people usually make it themselves. However i find it a bit complicated and if i were in Colorado as a tourist, it would be impossible :)
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
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legarm
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   Posted 8/15/2016 3:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes..I buy Colorado Cannabis Oil Syringe. It's the same as Rick Simpson Oil.

notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 8/15/2016 3:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeasty said...
I don't have a pouch. I said I had the reversal surgery after my colectomy. They didn't get all of the diverticulitis/osis. I have horrible left side pain....or should I say had. It's better a bit since I started the mmj oil. I have diarrhea on one side of my colon and constipation on the other side. I pray it helps. I will always have Colitis...surgery or not it hangs around.


This is a support group for people with Ulcerative Colitis. Not sure if you have it or not... I wish you good luck with CBD turn
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ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/15/2016 3:50 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks legarm, but the mere word "syringe" makes me run away in panic :) the problem is that i've never tried marijuana (or any other drugs) in my whole life so i'd like to try something which is very simple and safe
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
Mutaflor or VSL#3

suebear
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   Posted 8/16/2016 6:03 AM (GMT -7)   
I live in CA and use a 3-1 (3CBD to 1THC) for inflammation. I also use a CBD cream. I have tennis elbow in both arms and am using this as an alternative to NSAIDS. Unlike the above poster, I don't find CBD to be a stimulator, but perhaps because of the higher THC that effect is reduced.

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lealee
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   Posted 8/16/2016 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   
I am using medical marijuana now to control my diverticular associated colitis and it is 99.9% effective - no blood - no diarrhea - no constipation - no cramps.

My pain from fibromyalgia has improved to the point where I want to be actively engaged in life again - and - I have stopped taking sleeping meds (which I used for 25 years) without ANY repercussions. I no longer suffer from insomnia. Wild huh?

I am not on any - repeat - any - medication for my colitis. I was at my wits end and had tried many different drugs/enemas etc. to get over the longest and most painful attack of colitis to date, which lasted just over a year.

I was sick and tired of everything when I finally threw my hands in the air and asked my GP about medical marijuana. To make a long story short - my family doctor referred me to a cannabis clinic and I started vaping. I was really skeptical at first but now? I absolutely, positively believe in using medical marijuana because it works so well for me.

Next month I will be introducing oil to my regime with my doctor's guidance. Oil can last up to 6 hours - unlike dried herb which is effective for just over 2 hours.

I have also learned how to stave off an attack before it takes hold. I have a high cbd strain that I mix with my moderate thc strain when I am symptomatic and before the end of the day I am symptom free.

I know this must sound like some snake oil sales pitch but it's not. At my age and stage in life I just want to walk around pain free, without having to know the location of every public washroom in the city. I was stuck in my house for months at a time.

CBD in really high doses makes me jittery so the cannabis strain which is high in CBD, instead of tolerating the side effects, I have learned how to mix one strain with another. (CBD is thought to counter the psychoactive effects of THC)

It is necessary to try different strains for different effects. Your doctor will not be able to tell you what works - only what "might" work. It is up to you to figure it out - a trial and error experiment..but well worth it. My only problem was getting over the stigma associated with weed.

I hope this helps someone else.
Diverticular associated colitis, fibro, arthritis, diabetes, high blood pressure, 2 different "female" cancers, PTSD and other assorted maladies too numerous to list.
Intolerant of 5-ASA's
Entocort -ineffective-
Intolerant of Cortifoam
Scary reaction to prednisone
Probiotic - Bio-K
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**Medical marijuana daily - which works!***
I've changed and I am over it

ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/16/2016 12:14 PM (GMT -7)   
it's very interesting and helpful what you've written lealee, you've mentioned the cannabis clinic your GP has directed you to - can u say what clinic it is ?
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
Mutaflor or VSL#3

ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/16/2016 3:21 PM (GMT -7)   
lealee - one more question (probably stupid :) you say 'i have a high cbd strain' - what do u mean by a high cbd strain?
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
Mutaflor or VSL#3

lealee
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   Posted 8/16/2016 8:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Ewafrom ..cbd in the strain I use is higher than the level of thc. It is thought that cbd helps negate the psychoactive components that thc is famous for. It also acts as an anti-inflammatory. At the first sign of d or c or pain/blood...I reach for the strain with higher cbd. I swear it's that good for me.

I'm retired and photography is my hobby. Pain from colitis and fibro put an end to it for a very long time. I really hope others give it a try.

The clinic is in Canada. There are a number of them in my city. There are doctors who specialize in cannabis there. If they feel you're a candidate they will write a script and send it to one of the government's licensed producer. After that you contact them and put in an order.

The part that surprised me was the licensed producer then mails the cannabis and it arrives via our postal system.

ewafromwarsaw
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   Posted 8/17/2016 3:10 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks so much lealee, i keep my fingers crossed that you always stay in remission and good health :)
"the licensed producer then mails the cannabis and it arrives via our postal system" - that means Canada enjoys a higher level of civilization (in Poland he would be sentenced to 20 yrs of prison)
Ewa, 24 yrs old from Warsaw
Left-sided colitis, diagnosed in September 2012
Current meds: 2x2 Asamax (500 mg) and Salofalk enemas (twice a week)
Mutaflor or VSL#3

lealee
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   Posted 8/18/2016 6:37 AM (GMT -7)   
@ ewafromwarsaw - The only issue is that we do not have the ability to go into the licensed producer's facility (or some sort of storefront) and pick the cannabis yourself. It wouldn't have helped me initially because I had no idea what I was doing, but now I "get it" and can tell the differences in freshness etc. by the smell and texture of the medicine.

I'm not willing to buy from unlicensed (illegal), storefront pop-up businesses. I like the guidance I get from my doctor at the clinic and had no idea when I went into this for pain only - that it would clear up bleeding/d/c/etc. Nice surprise turn

@ suebear - I am thinking of using cbd cream too for topical administration - glad to hear it's helpful!
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