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lemonhead
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Posted 4/7/2015 9:55 AM (GMT -7)
Just had an hemmrhoidectomy. Not fun. After 14 years of those buggers hanging around, I finally bit the bullet and had the surgery. Anyone contemplating it, don't. After 3 weeks, I am finally back to work, but wish I wasn't. The pain was ridiculous for a good 2 weeks. They sent me home with 80 percocet and 40 valium, still not enough. I have been told I will be happy with the results in another month or 2, but right now, ugh.

I know a lot of us have issues with Hemmies, but please take care of your bum!!!
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Red_34
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Posted 4/7/2015 10:18 AM (GMT -7)
I'm sorry that you are having a hard time. I don't even want to have hem surgery because I have heard many stories like yours. I mean if they get to the point of bursting or are massive then I might consider it.
SHERRY
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Diagnosed Left sided UC '92 - meds: Apriso, Remicade (6mp discontinued due to neuropathy)*Unable to tolerate ALL mesalamines*, IBS, Diverticuliar Disease, Fibro, Sacroiilitis, Raynauds, OA, PA, Rosacea, Psoriasis, Dry eye syndrome and allergies controlled by Zyrtec.
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quincy
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Posted 4/7/2015 10:26 AM (GMT -7)
I've heard hemmie surgery is painful...I wonder if it differs as to how big and how many are removed?

I'm still contemplating having an anal tag removed.

Hope each day has you feeling better....Is there any rectal med you can use such as rectal rockets that can be compounded to ease the pain?

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO for PBC(or PSC?) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
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pb4
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Posted 4/7/2015 11:00 AM (GMT -7)
What procedure did they use lemonhead? Did they band them? I had my perianal crohn's skin tags mistaken for hemmies just as I was in the process of getting sick with crohn's so with all the docs telling me they were hemmies I went in on a emergency basis because they were killing me and they banded them while they were in a flare so as a result they stayed in a flared state (to this day, 24 years later) and yes, the pain is unbelievable from that procedure.

Hope you recover quickly!!
DX with Crohn's Disease in 1991 shortly after becoming ill. CD was affecting small and large bowel & anus (perianal crohn's skin tags) & rectum for first 2 yrs of becoming sick, CD remained constant in colon (Crohn's colitis) & anus with anal tags, intolerant to oral meds. Currently on Humira (Feb 2014) once a week and B12, Vitamin A and Omega's daily. In remission but trying to combat IBS D/C.
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lemonhead
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Posted 4/7/2015 11:19 AM (GMT -7)
No banding. I heard that would be a walk in the park compared to what they did to me. So, I had internal and external ones removed. They made 3 incisions around my anus like a Y, removed what they wanted and sewed me up. Then went inside and cut out those as well. I can't really feel the internal ones at all. Occasionally, I have pain in my tailbone, but it isn't too bad. The external ones are the ones that hurt like the dickens. They did give me something that I had to send to ST. Louis for compounding, called R5. Has a bunch of stuff in it, 2 or which are numbing. I think it has an antibacterial too. That helps, but not enough!! The older I get, the harder it is to recover. Probably doesn't help that I am on Humira either.
diagnosed with left-sided UC in 1997. (45cm)

4 caps Colazal
Humira (Jan 2013)
tumeric, calcium, potassium, magnesium, VSL #3DS, gluten-free diet.
Also currently on the amino acid treatment
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pb4
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Posted 4/7/2015 11:24 AM (GMT -7)
Oh that sucks lemonhead!! Back in 1991 when they banded mine, they told me they used to cut hemmies off/out but found that option was no longer used since being such a vulnerable area for getting infections and difficulty healing, given the area it's being done on, that banding is really the only way they remove hemmies anymore and that was over 2 decades ago. They also instructed me to take stool softeners (idiots they were cuz I was having full blown D pretty much right after my un-necessary surgery)

Wishing you a very speedy recovery and I hope you never have to deal with them again.
DX with Crohn's Disease in 1991 shortly after becoming ill. CD was affecting small and large bowel & anus (perianal crohn's skin tags) & rectum for first 2 yrs of becoming sick, CD remained constant in colon (Crohn's colitis) & anus with anal tags, intolerant to oral meds. Currently on Humira (Feb 2014) once a week and B12, Vitamin A and Omega's daily. In remission but trying to combat IBS D/C.
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momto2boys
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Posted 4/7/2015 12:11 PM (GMT -7)
I have a friend who had surgery and it took her 6 weeks to feel human and 6 months to fully recover. My own dr says he would only offer surgery if a patient with IBD if they bleedung all the time.
Hope you feel better soon!
39 yrs old diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis 6/13/13
meds- 2 Lialda supplements: probiotics (1 VSL3 cap, 1 culturelle and 1 reuteri) 1 gram krill Oil, 5-500mg tabs psyllium husks and 3/4 tsp l-glutamine. Zyrtec for seasonal allergies as needed. Allergic to sulfites. Currently gluten/dairy free (except yogurt) and eating lots of RS (potato starch, green banana smoothie and various beans).
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blksteeda
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Posted 4/7/2015 3:52 PM (GMT -7)
I've had a few external large ones...about the size of a grape sometimes. My GI had me see a general surgeon and in his office he would numb the hemmi, then make two small cuts and squeeze out the clot. There would be an empty "shell" of skin but eventually my body absorbed it and you couldn't see it at all. I wouldn't think twice about that procedure again for external hemmis. It's instant relief and a bit of soreness that lasts a couple days but nothing bad at all.
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Old Mike
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Posted 4/7/2015 4:07 PM (GMT -7)
Lemon I hope you have a quick recovery from the pain.
My dad did it about 40 years ago, he did a lot of soaking in a hot bath.
He was not a happy camper.
Wishing you well.
Old Mike
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DMC2011
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Posted 4/7/2015 4:41 PM (GMT -7)
Omg i hopei never! I am so sorry! I have them too butt :-) try to keep them tamed, not easy
Left sided dx. 2011
Current med: Apriso 4
6mp 50mg split 2x a day
Uceris 9 mg / 3/20 start 6 mg budesonide taper
Hydrocort 1x day
Canasa as needed
VSL3 I packet a day


This sucks!
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iPoop
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Posted 4/7/2015 4:55 PM (GMT -7)
My dad had some external hemmies, avoided surgery for as long as he could, until he was wearing maxipads to stop the bleeding/seaping from touching his clothes. They gave him bands, he passed out during the procedure; hurt like hell he said, took him a number of weeks to recover. He had several more about 7 years later but he had them treated before they became that problematic. This time he opted for anesthesia, no bands, and had them cut off, easier and quicker recovery and a lot less pain on the second go around. Maybe it was less trouble the second time as he didn't put it off for so long?
Moderator ulcerative colitis
M, 36, uc (proctosigmoiditis) and eczema
Rx: Remicade 5mg a kg every 8 weeks, daily 75mg 6MP, weekly Rowasa
Diet: Diet mods and supplements haven't done a thing for me
Uc gives you a sixth sense for finding bathrooms anywhere you go, ascessing how busy they'll be, and the length of time you'll get before someone knocks...

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pb4
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Posted 4/7/2015 4:58 PM (GMT -7)
Wow, ipoop, when I had my banding done they put me completely asleep in the hospital, I couldn't imagine having anything done on the butthole while awake, that's just unnecessary torture IMO and very barbaric.
DX with Crohn's Disease in 1991 shortly after becoming ill. CD was affecting small and large bowel & anus (perianal crohn's skin tags) & rectum for first 2 yrs of becoming sick, CD remained constant in colon (Crohn's colitis) & anus with anal tags, intolerant to oral meds. Currently on Humira (Feb 2014) once a week and B12, Vitamin A and Omega's daily. In remission but trying to combat IBS D/C.
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toomuchpoopin
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Posted 4/7/2015 6:45 PM (GMT -7)
Yikes! That sounds terrible! I hope you feel better soon. Thanks for the warning, I will keep this in mind! All of the sudden my ugly ol' hemmie ain't lookin too bad cool
Diagnosed IBD indeterminate. Pentasa 2g/day. Salofalk enemas and suppositories (up and down as needed). Metamucil caps daily, critical care 50 billion probiotic daily. Previous: asacol HD (switched when I started pooping them out whole).
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Red_34
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Posted 4/7/2015 8:29 PM (GMT -7)
It's sort of funny that hems were mentioned today. I started a new probiotic which btw I guess didn't agree with me. So I've been having D more then usual and omg, I thought my tush was gonna fall out because of my hems! I have both internal and external but my internals were extremely aggravated today. But I'm still not contemplating surgery :)
SHERRY
Moderator-Allergies/Asthma, Alzheimer's, IBS, Co-moderator-UC
Diagnosed Left sided UC '92 - meds: Apriso, Remicade (6mp discontinued due to neuropathy)*Unable to tolerate ALL mesalamines*, IBS, Diverticuliar Disease, Fibro, Sacroiilitis, Raynauds, OA, PA, Rosacea, Psoriasis, Dry eye syndrome and allergies controlled by Zyrtec.
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Old Hat
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Posted 4/7/2015 9:43 PM (GMT -7)
Ouch! Lemonhead, I'm sorry that you have major misery. For sure returning to work will be hard if you have to sit on the sore parts. Hemmies can just be The Pits! During a C-scope in 2006, I could see the monitor some of the time & wondered what on earth are those tangles of purple men doing in there? (LOL) Afterward gastro commented that I had internal hemmies, but they weren't hurting so I forgot about them. Cut to a throne trip 2 weeks ago when I suddenly felt like a tennis ball needed to come out but couldn't! Ugh! Keep yourself well-hydrated & rest as much as you can. Let us know how you're doing when you feel up to it. / Old Hat (34 yrs with left-sided UC; presently in remission taking brandname Colazal)
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sherbear46
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Posted 4/8/2015 11:02 AM (GMT -7)
My GI said she doesn't band external ones and those are the ones along with a skin tag that give me the most grief. I have read on here in the past about the horrific pain and recovery time for having surgery. I don't have time for that. LOL
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Sheri-42 years old

Diagnosed UC/IBS April 2009-Left sided Jan 2013 Endo showed gastritis and Colonoscopy showed only 2 cm of rectal inflammation
Diagnosed in Jan 2013 with Chronic Uticartia

Meds-2 Lialda, Dexilant, Allegra, Singulair, Vitamin D3, Hydroxyzine (as needed), probiotics, Canasa 3 x week
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DMC2011
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Posted 4/9/2015 5:53 AM (GMT -7)
I heard about the pain of surgery for it years ago before UC and decided never to go there. But I hope Lemonhead, that you feel better soon and just think, it's a done deal! You are brave!
Left sided dx. 2011
Current med: Apriso 4
6mp 50mg split 2x a day
Uceris 9 mg / 3/20 start 6 mg budesonide taper
Hydrocort 1x day
Canasa as needed
VSL3 I packet a day


This sucks!
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iPoop
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Posted 4/9/2015 8:13 AM (GMT -7)
My dad's glad he got the surgery, even though it hurt and the recovery sucked. He said it was a pain to keep pushing the external hemorrhoid back inside.
Moderator ulcerative colitis
M, 36, uc (proctosigmoiditis) and eczema
Rx: Remicade 5mg a kg every 8 weeks, daily 75mg 6MP, weekly Rowasa
Diet: Diet mods and supplements haven't done a thing for me
Uc gives you a sixth sense for finding bathrooms anywhere you go, ascessing how busy they'll be, and the length of time you'll get before someone knocks...
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lemonhead
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Posted 4/9/2015 8:46 AM (GMT -7)
I was given no other option but surgery. Today is 4 weeks and I do feel a bit better. Still have a lot of swelling (I am told that is normal because there is no where for it to go). So, I guess I shouldn't complain too much. It is definitely not something I ever want to do again. They made me take mineral oil, fiber supplements and milk of magnesia. I stopped all that, constipation was never the reason for my hemmies!! All that was making me go ALL THE TIME!! I will let you all know if I think it was worth it or not after I am all healed up. Thanks for the well wishes, and keep your tushies happy!!
diagnosed with left-sided UC in 1997. (45cm)

4 caps Colazal
Humira (Jan 2013)
tumeric, calcium, potassium, magnesium, VSL #3DS, gluten-free diet.
Also currently on the amino acid treatment
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