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emilp89
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Posted 12/30/2015 9:50 AM (GMT -8)
I am going to quote a website that mentions all the risk factors for UC. One of these factors is Personality type:

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Personality type

Individuals who exhibit anxious or obsessive personality traits and/or are introverted or emotionally immature have a higher risk of UC than those who do not. One study reported that 84% of individuals with UC have these personality traits.

I am interested, does this ring true for you?

It definitely does for me, I had problems with anxiety and depression a little bit, I am introverted and always had a problem of handling my emotions. My dominant emotion is sadness.

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Red_34
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Posted 12/30/2015 9:59 AM (GMT -8)
I have GAD and mild OCD but I'm nothing of an introvert nor emotionally immature. I love to be out and about, seeing sights and enjoying the company of others. Also my dominant trait is happiness and optimism.
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sirenshooter
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Posted 12/30/2015 10:03 AM (GMT -8)
Some of these sound like me, but it could also be a chicken-egg question imo.
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emilp89
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Posted 12/30/2015 10:05 AM (GMT -8)

Red_34 said...
I have GAD and mild OCD but I'm nothing of an introvert nor emotionally immature. I love to be out and about, seeing sights and enjoying the company of others. Also my dominant trait is happiness and optimism.

Generalized anxiety disorder? That's definitely enough to put you into this group.

Well, I am introverted, but also enjoy the company of others, BUT a certain set of others. I don't enjoy being with people who mean little to me, unless they are my kind of person, then I want to get to know them.

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DBwithUC
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Posted 12/30/2015 11:31 AM (GMT -8)
I think temperament and anxiety would be minor factors compared to the proven environmental triggers and genetic factors related to immune response.

But the gut affects the mind, and I would not be surprised if for some anxiety was a very early precursor of IBD. But this would not be a causal relation, but rather both the anxiety and the immune dysfunction related to the gut microbes.

More generally, I think this kind of speculation is useful for scientists - but not patients. It invites a blame the self mentality. We are not responsible for our disease.
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brucen36
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Posted 12/30/2015 11:35 AM (GMT -8)
What are some examples of being emotionally immature?
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Red_34
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:03 PM (GMT -8)
Yes, general anxiety disorder but it's only triggered by certain events. Such one of my kids coming home late. Or my husband doesn't call etc. I have no fear of public speaking, being in crowds, meeting new people or going to unknown events and parties.
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:07 PM (GMT -8)
I used to be a tense person in general and a little OCD, but everyone in my family is, and I am the only one with UC. I've actually learned to keep it to a minimum since developing UC. I don't get worked up about anything anymore. I'd say I am the least tense person I know.
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LiveStudioAudience
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:09 PM (GMT -8)
Source?

Study details? Sample size? Methodology? Date published?
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iPoop
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:12 PM (GMT -8)
I'm introverted but none of the others are true for me. What website are you referring to (that said personality traits matter)? I'm highly skeptical...
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beatUC
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:25 PM (GMT -8)
That must be old info that you posted. UC used to be considered a mental disorder but all that has been disproven by science over the years. Saying UC is caused by personality traits is insulting and archaic.
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Uniform Charlie
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:35 PM (GMT -8)
They're casting a pretty wide net, especially if its self-reported. I'd say 84% of people in general would probably consider themselves one of these to some degree.

I'm an introvert. Not OCD at all. Occasionally prone to depression/anxiety, Emotionally immature?...hard to say...depends on their definition.
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ElpisUnbreakable
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Posted 12/30/2015 12:59 PM (GMT -8)
I have never suffered from depression. Never had a panic attack or experienced anxiety (unless you count bathroom anxiety) and I have to do a lot of public speaking. Emotionally immature....well, I think we all have to work on that to some degree. We are all evolving creatures.

Lots of famous people throughout history may have had IBD include Darwin in JFK. I would like to think that they were as emotionally immature as the next person but still accomplished great things.
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L Rachel
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Posted 12/30/2015 1:17 PM (GMT -8)
No. Zero problems prior to UC symptoms.

I've read things that suggest that the inflammation in our gut affects our actual brain chemistry (as opposed to just creating situational anxiety). I think that probably has something to do with the myth that anxious people are more prone to developing UC. People might experience inflammation that affects them mentally prior to an official UC diagnosis, but I don't believe that personality type in any way influences our chances of developing UC.
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imagardener2
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Posted 12/30/2015 1:33 PM (GMT -8)
I must be in the 16% without these traits. But I do not believe this statistic in the least, it a way to blame people who get UC, it must be their fault because they are anxious or introverted or emotionally immature or obsessive.

I was very successful in my career, healthy, optimistic, happy. My personality had zero to do with my getting UC and I resent anyone who would try and pin it on that. Oh yes, add opinionated to my personality ha.
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Posted 12/30/2015 1:52 PM (GMT -8)
so all things being equal, do you believe this >"Individuals who exhibit anxious or obsessive personality traits and/or are introverted or emotionally immature have a higher risk of UC than those who do not" could tip the scale ?

that's how i see most things in life - it's not just one thing but a combination of factors -

and i don't think anyone is trying to blame or find fault -
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Posted 12/30/2015 2:32 PM (GMT -8)
People that don't have any type of IBD also have those very same personality traits...grain of salt.
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toomuchpoopin
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Posted 12/30/2015 6:18 PM (GMT -8)
I developed anxiety because of my bowels....
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emilp89
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Posted 12/30/2015 11:25 PM (GMT -8)

brucen36 said...
What are some examples of being emotionally immature?

The individual who is emotionally immature finds it difficult to deal with their own feelings.
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emilp89
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Posted 12/31/2015 12:06 AM (GMT -8)

juststud said...
so all things being equal, do you believe this >"Individuals who exhibit anxious or obsessive personality traits and/or are introverted or emotionally immature have a higher risk of UC than those who do not" could tip the scale ?

that's how i see most things in life - it's not just one thing but a combination of factors -

and i don't think anyone is trying to blame or find fault -

They can't tip the scale, they are a factor, one among a bunch of other factors.
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emilp89
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Posted 12/31/2015 12:56 AM (GMT -8)
I never said we should blame ourselves and I never said that personality traits are responsible for UC.

While I was in the hospital there were a couple of people with UC there. I was the youngest person there. There was a girl there who is a year older than me. She never talked to anyone, stayed in her room most of the time. She never went to the canteen to eat. He mother was there very often. I just saw her go to the bathroom and that was it. She was obviously a quiet person.

The man who was in the same room as me (in his late 50s) a lot of the times didn't stood up for himself. He is extraverted and likes to talk A LOT, he was positive most of the time, but when someone said something he didn't like, he proceded to ruminate over this for the next 10 minutes. He was obviously prone to holding emotions to himself. He talked to his wife over the phone, she wanted to visit him more often, but he convinced her it is not necessary. I could feel that he was sad that she doesn't come. And yet this man doesn't consider himself an introvert or a person having some problems.
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Posted 12/31/2015 5:36 AM (GMT -8)
Who knows, it could be correlation without causation. I'm sure the majority of uc patients are right handed and have dark hair, but those aren't risk factors for uc. You'd have to weigh it against the general population as a whole (are there more right handed than left handed people?, etc.), maybe they did, I don't know, and still found that statistically significant (interesting anecdote perhaps, but still could be purely coincidental). Most certainly, uc forces most of those things upon us after diagnosis (depression, anxieties, to be housebound at times).

To play the opposite side, a mind gut connection is sometimes discussed. If one is prone to depression and anxiety, you could say it has negative consequences on the gut.
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Posted 12/31/2015 6:41 AM (GMT -8)
I'm sure the majority of uc patients are right handed and have dark hair, but those aren't risk factors for uc.

Being fair skinned, blonde and blue-eyed can be indicators because Northern Europeans have the highest incidence of IBD, especially Irish genes. When I first met my primary doc and told him I had UC he said I looked like the poster child for it based on my looks. Red-heads may be even higher incidence than blondes.
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iPoop
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Posted 12/31/2015 7:48 AM (GMT -8)
I'm brown eyes with dark brown hair and my skin isn't fair. High Neanderthal dna 96th percentile (whoo), but predominantly english/irish and french/german according to 23andme.
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emilp89
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Posted 12/31/2015 8:08 AM (GMT -8)
I am not saying these personality traits cause it. People with these traits may have more stress in their lives and they also handle it in certain ways (holding it in), which is a factor.

I've read that there was an explosion of IBD incidence after WW2 and also in Yugoslavia (after the Yugoslav wars).
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