Open main menu ☰
HealingWell
Search Close Search
Health Conditions
Allergies & Asthma Alzheimer's Disease Anxiety & Panic Disorders Arthritis Breast Cancer Chronic Fatigue Crohn's Disease Cystic Fibrosis Depression Diabetes Epilepsy
Fibromyalgia General Chronic Illness GERD & Acid Reflux Headaches & Migraines Hepatitis Irritable Bowel Syndrome Lupus Lyme Disease Multiple Sclerosis Parkinson's Disease Prostate Cancer

Chronic Illness Blog »
All Health Conditions »
Support Forums
Anxiety & Panic Disorders Bipolar Disorder Breast Cancer Chronic Pain Crohn's Disease Depression Diabetes Fibromyalgia GERD & Acid Reflux
Hepatitis Irritable Bowel Syndrome Lupus Lyme Disease Multiple Sclerosis Ostomies Prostate Cancer Rheumatoid Arthritis Ulcerative Colitis

All Support Forums »
Log In
Join Us
Close main menu ×
  • Home
  • Health Conditions
    • All Health Conditions
    • Chronic Illness Blog
    • Allergies & Asthma
    • Alzheimer's Disease
    • Anxiety & Panic Disorders
    • Arthritis
    • Breast Cancer
    • Chronic Fatigue
    • Crohn's Disease
    • Cystic Fibrosis
    • Depression
    • Diabetes
    • Epilepsy
    • Fibromyalgia
    • General Chronic Illness
    • GERD & Acid Reflux
    • Headaches & Migraines
    • Hepatitis
    • Irritable Bowel Syndrome
    • Lupus
    • Lyme Disease
    • Multiple Sclerosis
    • Parkinson's Disease
    • Prostate Cancer
  • Support Forums
    • All Support Forums
    • Anxiety & Panic Disorders
    • Bipolar Disorder
    • Breast Cancer
    • Chronic Pain
    • Crohn's Disease
    • Depression
    • Diabetes
    • Fibromyalgia
    • GERD & Acid Reflux
    • Hepatitis
    • Irritable Bowel Syndrome
    • Lupus
    • Lyme Disease
    • Multiple Sclerosis
    • Ostomies
    • Prostate Cancer
    • Rheumatoid Arthritis
    • Ulcerative Colitis
  • Log In
  • Join Us
  • Connect With Us
    • Facebook
    • Twitter
    • Pinterest
    • LinkedIn
Join Us
☰
Forum Home| Forum Rules| Moderators| Active Topics| Help| Log In

Newbie: When does the bleeding stop?

Chronic Illness Forums
>
Ulcerative Colitis
>
Newbie: When does the bleeding stop?  
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply
❬ ❬ Previous Thread |Next Thread ❭ ❭
profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/14/2017 7:11 AM (GMT -7)
I was diagnosed with left sided UC last week following a colonoscopy. I have had "stomach issues" since I was a kid (dairy intolerance, stress = cramping, etc.) and was diagnosed with IBS in my 20s (I'm 39 now). The bleeding, mucus and urgency started last summer after I started birth control again and I chalked it up to hemorrhoids until two weeks ago (stupid, I know).

GI (who seems knowledgeable and competent) started me on Rowasa nightly which I began last Weds, and Prednisone oral 40mg which I started Friday (I wanted to discuss side effects and taper plan first).

I think my urgency, tenesmus and cramping with bowel movements have improved somewhat (not gone but reduced), but I'm still bleeding. It's hard to tell if I'm really passing mucus still because I'm passing Rowasa in the mornings. A little constipated but that's normal for me. At what point should the bleeding be stopping? How long does it take to hit remission?

By the way, all my trigger foods are UC triggers so avoiding those - spicy, nuts, popcorn, dairy, alcohol, chocolate - and also for me, raw fruits/veggies and anything high fiber right now.

I think I'm putting a lot of pressure on myself to improve and disappointed/worried each morning when the blood is still there.

Thanks!
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/14/2017 8:01 AM (GMT -7)
Are you not an oral mesalamine?

Are you retaining the enema throughout the night?

The bleeding can take a while since it's an advancement of the inflammation. Patience....try not to focus on each detail, but note them.
We dont heal in a week....

Keep us posted. But please ask your doc to get you on an oral mesalamine. I truth, it doesnt seem you needed to be on pred.
q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

Post Edited (quincy) : 2/14/2017 8:04:11 AM (GMT-7)

profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/14/2017 8:09 AM (GMT -7)
Thanks, quincy. No oral mesalamine yet - appointment tomorrow. I will check - thanks.

The first few nights I was retaining about half the enema through the night - last night was the first time I retained the whole thing. Though from the first night I have been able to keep it in a minimum of 45 mins. (Minus any spillage - still getting the hang of getting it all in properly).
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/14/2017 8:12 AM (GMT -7)
How are you inserting the enema?
q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/14/2017 8:15 AM (GMT -7)
I'm following the instructions on the sheet - and in the pinned post at the top of this forum - but it seems as I squeeze the bottle, sometimes it's either a bit painful (like the nozzle isn't pointed where it should be) or slips out a bit, resulting in a small spill.
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/14/2017 8:28 AM (GMT -7)
Make sure its fully inserted, and relax the sphincter/rectum....that helps a lot!

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/14/2017 8:36 AM (GMT -7)
Thanks! I will try that tonight 😊
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/14/2017 9:17 AM (GMT -7)
Let us know how tonight goes.
q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
profile picture
iPoop
Forum Moderator
Joined : Aug 2012
Posts : 14321
Posted 2/14/2017 9:56 AM (GMT -7)
The million dollar question in the UC gig is when will i be in remission and fully healed. Very hard to answer, as it varies wildly person to person.

For me, blood is the very first symptom to go away. For others it is the very last symptom to go away.

Healing is a painfully, frustratingly slow process. You should start seeing big improvements in 3-4 weeks if you have the right treatment or combo of treatments. However, the hardest part is the last bit of healing to 100 percent and that can take many months.

If you plateau, or get worse then it's essential to contact your gasteroenterologist asap and mix up your treatment until you continue on the path of healing. There's a great deal of trial and error in treating UC. You should always see steady, slow improvement over time. If not then you're stuck with lingering symptoms and simmering inflammation which can result in you falling off the cliff back into a flare again.

Remission is the only sure fired way to stay stable and have the best possible quality of life. It feels like a moonshot for some of us, a struggle over many months or even years, but always worth it when remission is achieved. Forgetting about UC is always worth it, 1 bm a day without urgency is my remission.
Moderator Ulcerative Colitis
John
, 38, UC Proctosigmoiditis
Rx: Remicade @5mgs/kg/6wks; 50mgs 6MP, 4.8g Mesalamine DR

UC urgency, there's just no prize for second place. Aim for the gold or brace for a poopslposion.

Post Edited (iPoop) : 2/14/2017 10:00:18 AM (GMT-7)

profile picture
Jane974
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 251
Posted 2/14/2017 10:28 AM (GMT -7)
Fletch, I've also read and heard from my GI doctor that folks who get diagnosed with UC at an older age (older is around 40 for UC since many get diagnosed at age 15-25), have a milder course. My GI doc also told me that the flare ups get milder with age overall (although I don't know if he was just trying to make me feel better).

It's also good to know that left sided UC doesn't affect your entire colon and is easier to treat overall with enemas.

Post Edited (Jane974) : 2/14/2017 11:02:54 AM (GMT-7)

profile picture
jars05
Regular Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 297
Posted 2/14/2017 6:18 PM (GMT -7)
Every flare is different. This one I'm in now is the longest I've ever bled daily. I think it's getting better because there has been less blood for the last four or five days. Saturday was awesome as I really couldn't see blood. I'm not out of the outhouse yet though.
39, M, MO
Diagnosed in 1997 UC. Pretty much go on Prednisone and Cortenemas to get out of flares. No meds while in remission which lasts from a 1-1/2 to 3 years.
Current flare since 12-25-16.
profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/14/2017 7:53 PM (GMT -7)
Thanks, everyone! Really appreciate hearing all of this information and advice. It's a scary diagnosis and a lot to deal with, and this forum has made a big difference in my level of worry. Thanks to all of you! And Jane974, I hope you are right! smile
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/14/2017 10:17 PM (GMT -7)

Jane974 said...

It's also good to know that left sided UC doesn't affect your entire colon and is easier to treat overall with enemas.


Nope....not a fact and not a good suggestion to make.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
profile picture
iPoop
Forum Moderator
Joined : Aug 2012
Posts : 14321
Posted 2/15/2017 6:55 AM (GMT -7)
Quincy is right that severity of inflammation matters more. We've had a poster have surgery over a quarter-sized patch of really severe inflammation that will not respond to any treatment that was causing pain and lots of bleeding and other awful symptoms. We've had posters with severe proctitis (rectum only) involvement have surgery. Certainly those are outliers and not the norm though.

Certainly as far as averages go for all UC patients, pancolitis is generally results in more hospitalizations, a need for stronger meds, greater odds of colorectal cancer and surgery than proctosigmoiditis or proctitis. But we do have some pancolitis posters who are med free, so there ya go; there's always exceptions to the rules.
Moderator Ulcerative Colitis
John
, 38, UC Proctosigmoiditis
Rx: Remicade @5mgs/kg/6wks; 50mgs 6MP, 4.8g Mesalamine DR

UC urgency, there's just no prize for second place. Aim for the gold or brace for a poopslposion.
profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/15/2017 7:07 AM (GMT -7)
Update: thanks to everyone for the help with my question! Quincy, I did much better with the Rowasa last night and also realized that I hadn't been getting the full amount out of the bottle previously. It's awkward but managed to squeeze from the bottom to get most of it out. Retained 100% overnight.

My cramping and urgency are getting a little better each day (only 2 trips to bathroom yesterday!) but still blood this morning. I am a bit constipated because I've removed so much fiber from my diet and stopped birth control 2 weeks ago, so that may be contributing to my "easier" mornings as well.

However generally improving overall I think, and I will discuss with my GI today. It's been one week on the rowasa (though clearly not getting all of it in until last night) and five days today on 40mg prednisone so will be interested to hear his thoughts. I have a list of questions prepared!
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/15/2017 10:33 AM (GMT -7)
Hi...the constipation is a part of healing from a flare noting limited in rectum inflammation or milder degree of inflammation.

I suggest you stay on the enemas nightly till after off the pred. Then if all is good, start the taper to maintenance.

Yippee.....retention success!!!

Keep us posted on your appointment and the oral mesalamine choice.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
profile picture
Fletch10
Regular Member
Joined : Feb 2017
Posts : 253
Posted 2/16/2017 11:41 AM (GMT -7)
So, update: saw my GI yesterday, and the plan is to start tapering my prednisone on Saturday, slowly. In the meantime, though, as I started retaining the Rowasa, my symptoms started getting worse, and I had painful bloody diarrhea today, not something that was a normal symptom for me, as well as the return of urgency, spasms and tenesmus. They are stopping the Rowasa for now with a plan to start the prednisone taper on Saturday and then start another medication (yet to be seen if I am tolerating mesalamine) once I am fully responsive to prednisone and at 20mg/day. Biopsy showed no
dysplasia and mildly active ulcerative colitis through the sigmoid colon. I was doing much better symptomatically until I started inserting all of the Rowasa and retaining it two nights ago so he feels the prednisone is doing its short term job and we will be able to transition to a maintenance med in the next couple of weeks. They also said they would want to re scope in August to be sure I am fully healed and not just getting symptomatic relief.
profile picture
quincy
Elite Member
Joined : May 2003
Posts : 31466
Posted 2/16/2017 11:49 AM (GMT -7)
Keep us posted.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply

Forum Information

Currently it is Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:21 PM (GMT -7)
There are a total of 3,042,665 posts in 332,472 threads.
View Active Topics

Who's Online

This forum has 163284 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, BazB44.
203 Guest(s), 6 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
mattamx, BazB44, Sr Sailor, Girlie, Lymie24, garyi




HealingWell

About Us  |   Advertise  |   Subscribe  |   Privacy & Disclaimer
Connect With Us
FacebookFacebook TwitterTwitter PinterestPinterest LinkedInLinkedIn
© 1997-2019 HealingWell.com LLC All Rights Reserved.