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Andrina
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   Posted 12/31/2017 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
That's why I'm afraid to ever have an operation. Who knows what they do to you once you're out and completely helpless and 100% in their hands. Who knows how often sexual abuse happened and no one even knows it.

www.foxnews.com/health/2017/12/29/woman-sues-hospital-over-nude-photo-taken-her-on-operating-table.html

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   Posted 12/31/2017 4:17 PM (GMT -6)   
And there was the guy last year whose phone recorded his GI making derogatory comments about him while he was doing his c-scope. Shameful behavior.

I just had eye surgery few months ago, no clothes needed to be removed haha (not even shoes) but I was worried about the procedure. Doctors are gods in the OR but I had to trust my instincts that mine was trustworthy. I actually remember waking up during procedure which can happen from twilight sleep anesthesia, but few remember waking up afterwards.

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   Posted 12/31/2017 5:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Andrina said...
That's why I'm afraid to ever have an operation. Who knows what they do to you once you're out and completely helpless and 100% in their hands. Who knows how often sexual abuse happened and no one even knows it.

www.foxnews.com/health/2017/12/29/woman-sues-hospital-over-nude-photo-taken-her-on-operating-table.html


Well this is kind of silly. An isolated incident or two, where a nurse takes a picture of a co-worker who had put a funny drawing on her skin before surgery --- and you try to justify a fear of all surgery teams?

BTW, don't ever die - because they will strip you naked, cut you open, and flush your veins.

Why not worry about the much more common things done to you while awake? ... like medicine for profit destroying our lives ... or

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   Posted 12/31/2017 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
hey, if they get the job right, i couldn't give a rip what they do or don't do to amuse themselves -
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3timechamp
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   Posted 12/31/2017 8:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Having surgery soon. If they want to take pics of me a 59yo then hope they get my good side(if I have one?). Andrina paranoia sucks. People who spread paranoia need to look in the mirror. Happy New Year

imagardener2
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   Posted 12/31/2017 8:17 PM (GMT -6)   
It's not right to bash Andrina. Women have fears of being taken advantage in ways that most men never think about. This is just one of the ways. And being afraid to speak up and talk about it has kept a lot of bad acts continue to happen.

notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 12/31/2017 8:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I saw in the article they mentioned that she had played a prank on the doctors and this was somehow related, but she didn't allow the pictures. Really, if you play a joke like that, people will want to record it. I hope no one took any pix of me, but if they did, and asked for proper permission, maybe I would be okay with it. It was a very vague article, as is common, for news outlets like fox.
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   Posted 12/31/2017 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Do u think it actually is a common occurrence?? I don't. We just seem to live in a world where every little spec of news is put out there. Don't think posting it was right thing to do. Was it done to get attention?? Maybe?? We live in a world where even if it is not the truth people don't give a crap and put things on social media when it could hurt someone. Peace and Happy New Year

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   Posted 12/31/2017 11:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Personally, I signed permission allowing my hospital and docs to take pictures and video. It is a teaching hospital. If I help just one person...I don't care who sees me.

3 timechamp...I think you have got it right. Pretty soon...if they haven't already, those bad apples are going to spoil it for the rest of us.

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   Posted 1/1/2018 9:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Can it happen? I'd say it's an outlier rather than the norm. Odds are against it happening to you/I.
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   Posted 1/1/2018 5:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe I'm paranoid so what? I read about those incidents from time to time on the news. Not just surgeries but also in care homes or at the gynecologist they do abusive things. This is not an isolated incident.

When I die I want to be cremated. No cutting open, none of that.
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3timechamp
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   Posted 1/1/2018 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't want to start a feud. It's rare that it happens. This is a site about U.C not about isolated incidents in a operating room where people don't act professional. Don't think this is the right place to discuss this

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   Posted 1/1/2018 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I used to work in health insurance and the medical profession has the highest rate of sociopathy and psychopathy. We talked about it all the time among management and the litigators. I don't let any doctor do procedures on me that I don't trust 100% and who I can't have a normal level relationship with. Doctors who are cold, rude, detached, or unfriendly I will never let touch me.

I'm not saying that all doctors aren't trustworthy, I'm saying that if something feels off then you probably shouldn't put your care in their hands. Every time I get a scope or go under sedation my digital recorder is with me.

Andrina
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   Posted 1/1/2018 9:21 PM (GMT -6)   
3timechamp said...
Don't want to start a feud. It's rare that it happens. This is a site about U.C not about isolated incidents in a operating room where people don't act professional. Don't think this is the right place to discuss this

I'm sorry but I disagree. To me it has to do with my disease because one day I might have surgery too. However I added OT to the subject so I'm sorry it I offended you.

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   Posted 1/2/2018 8:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Connor77 said...
I used to work in health insurance and the medical profession has the highest rate of sociopathy and psychopathy. We talked about it all the time among management and the litigators. I don't let any doctor do procedures on me that I don't trust 100% and who I can't have a normal level relationship with. Doctors who are cold, rude, detached, or unfriendly I will never let touch me.

I'm not saying that all doctors aren't trustworthy, I'm saying that if something feels off then you probably shouldn't put your care in their hands. Every time I get a scope or go under sedation my digital recorder is with me.


Well Connor77 you have elevated my anxiety considerably. Always thought politicians and CEO's had highest rates of sociopathy but I generally assume people in positions of power didn't get there by being Mother Teresa.

I always look at a doctors reviews and background (do they move from place to place?) before becoming their patient. Internet has made it possible for people to tell their stories more easily if bad things happened.

The combination of anesthesia in a private setting (operating room) and vulnerability may not concern everyone but some people do care, including me.


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   Posted 1/2/2018 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Although the fear may be justified, you have to remember that an OR is full of professionals, not just the doctor, but nurses, anesthesiologist, techs, sometimes students... Unless it is the perfect storm of individuals who all have zero ethics, this type of thing would be difficult to explain. I know in my case, there was a group, it was the same group each time, and they work together regularly, I wasn't worried about the team wanting to keep photos of me laying on the OR table for their own purposes. I would imagine you're barely recognizable, but it's also not attractive, and these people see nude bodies all the time, I doubt they would want to save a photo of mine.

triblive.com/local/regional/13120345-74/woman-says-nurse-took-shared-nude-photos-of-her-during-surgery-at
This woman worked at the hospital. I'd be grossed out if someone confronted me with an image of myself like that at work, that said, if someone showed me a nude picture at work, I'd report them.
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   Posted 1/2/2018 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd say leave your phone in a pocket (or under the cart) with the audio recorder running, if it worries you. Odds are you're more likely to get struck by a meteorite when walking outdoors, and I never cast a worried eye at the sky before stepping outdoors lol.

Ditto. An OR room is a work environment with 4-6 or more people in there, which I agree reduces the odds that one twisted individual would do with others there (others would have to ignore and give consent by doing nothing).
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NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 1/2/2018 11:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Like iPoop said, surgeons work in a team. Even if by chance you do end up with a perve surgeon, the whole team would have to be in on it. Most abusers work in secret, not in teams.

Also, the medical profession does not have the highest rate of psychopathy: that dubious honour goes to CEOs. Apparently surgeons come in at number 5 in the top 10 list of jobs with the highest rates of psychopathy. On the other hand, nurses and doctors are both in the top 10 list of jobs with the lowest rates of psychopathy. Make of that what you will.

www.cbc.ca/doczone/features/psychopaths-top-10-and-bottom-10-professions

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   Posted 1/2/2018 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
It all sounds a bit odd, who really knows what happened, but I hope she has compensation anyway.

When I saw my gynecologist last year without warning she whipped out her phone and she took some snaps of my Vjay. I can't remember how many. She then showed them to me to explain what my problem was and then deleted them. But I remember thinking at the time that she might not have deleted them all and that really she should have asked me before doing that.....does that sound odd to anyone? I think probably part of the problem is that I have a hunch that she might be gay, not that that would bother me but after the photos, I felt a bit worried.
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   Posted 1/2/2018 9:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Poppie,

Sometimes I take pictures of things that I can't really see so that I can understand what is happening. Maybe your doctor was just trying to give you a visual.

I do think your doctor should have asked you....and used your phone..

One of my doctors... shows me the images taken but a picture can show you so much more. (This is one of the doctors that I send pictures to thru a patient portal when I have issues...I probably freak my doctors out) I haven't gotten up the nerve to ask for the doctor to take a picture yet....but I have thought of it.

They draw what is and what they are planning on a piece of typing paper...and so far I am having a hard time visualizing..

I am so far on the other side of the spectrum.... I wonder about being a patient not respecting boundaries?


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   Posted 1/3/2018 11:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks clo, yes, your probably right, and visuals are far better to explain what the problems are. I think she should have used my phone as well.
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   Posted 1/4/2018 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
NCOT, your comment made me feel better. You're right most abusers do it alone.

Poppie, that's unbelievable. My gyn drew a picture of the problem area to show me. I myself have an app which automatically backs up pictures as soon as I take them. Even deleting won't get rid of them because they're already in the cloud. I would be VERY concerned if she had something like that on her phone.
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   Posted 1/4/2018 10:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I wouldn't like that either!!!! It's a body part, so no one would know it was you, but still, that's not cool. I see the benefit from a clinical perspective, but it would be better if they could show you on a screen without making a record.
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   Posted 1/4/2018 10:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe at your next appointment you can explain how uncomfortable that incident made you and find a work around...if you like that doctor and want to keep them.

This is just me....I would want her to ask and use my phone. I too have a back up that is scheduled nightly. It only backs up pictures that are left in my phone-not the deleted ones. I have left some pictures on it that Have been backed up. I have taken them so I can compare if a fistula or something is getting better or worse....

Regardless...photos should be your property unless you have signed a waiver.

I go to a teaching hospital...I signed the waiver...and yes my pics are out there without my name...and I have had "new" doctors not know me but recognize my body parts...lol...and I was thrilled that they had learned something and mortified that they now had a face to go with the body part. (So I do understand... )

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   Posted 1/5/2018 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I have another appointment with her on Tuesday and so I will make sure she uses my phone if necessary.

Its been three years since I have been able to have S.. I need an operation I think to enable that to happen. Once you get UC it opens the doors for other illnesses and I got Lichen Sclerosus...which is the worse disease a women can get.
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