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Happier!
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Posted 2/15/2018 5:10 PM (GMT -8)
How many of us keep a job?

I just lost my last good client.
My husband and my daughter have been covering for me, but I just can’t keep up.
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StewieCat
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Posted 2/15/2018 8:10 PM (GMT -8)
Depends.

My job is a salaried desk job with a lot of flexibility (software developer). I can work from home if I don't feel well. I even worked from the hospital last summer since all I need is my laptop.

For others I can imagine it would be difficult. I couldn't imagine dealing with my horrible multi-year flare if I had a job with time restrictions (set breaks, clock-in/out, etc) or where a restroom wasn't a quick jog down the hall. I truly admire those that manage this disease in less than ideal circumstances.

Things will get better, you will get better, you will get your life back.
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suchatravesty
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Posted 2/15/2018 8:32 PM (GMT -8)
I have a desk job, though every few months I may need to travel. I work from home 3 days a week, but I can work from home more if I am not feeling well because my job understands their obligations towards those with medical issues. There are things I need to do during normal business hours (conference into meetings, call people, talk to supervisor), but some of my work can be done at random hours when I feel better. I actually was reviewing documents for a case and researching some legal stuff today on my laptop while on the toilet *shrug*

If I were in the same job I was a year ago, I would have had to take leave because I spent a lot of time out of the office and supervising people and working long hours, and that would not be sustainable with this flare.
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ks1905
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Posted 2/15/2018 8:37 PM (GMT -8)
If your QOL is not good enough to work then you may need to consider changing your medication. If it is really bad then consider surgery.

There were many months that I was unable to work, I finally gave up and had surgery. Like many of us who have had surgery I only wish that I had it sooner. I feel so much better than I ever did with UC.

What kind of work do you do? Maybe some people can make suggestions on how you can work while flaring.
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Happier!
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Posted 2/16/2018 1:25 AM (GMT -8)
I have been a web designer since 1999. Started working as a consultant from home since I got sick.

I’ve been having arthralgia. My hands aren’t working right. The immunosuppressants have made me catch everything. I keep losing my voice. I have had seizures. Fell on a chef’s knife (having a seizure) and tried to cut off my thumb. That pushed me way behind. Lost clients. Potential new client came for a consultation and I couldn’t get out of the bathroom...

I have failed everything up to now. It seems to work, then doesn’t. Tired of living on rice and applesauce. I just started Humira.

I’m not even a good surgery candidate, since I scar badly and don’t heal well.

Sorry. Venting. Feeling sorry for myself.
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Posted 2/16/2018 3:40 AM (GMT -8)
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iPoop
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Posted 2/16/2018 3:46 AM (GMT -8)
I've been working through flares, but I have a desk job for a software company and I can work from home as needed. I write software documentation, so no clients, no travel and few meetings. We've got a number of posters in a variety of professions: a number of teachers, a hairdresser, some medical professionals (an anesthesiaoligist, a few nurses some in training, one said he was a doctor a psychologist?), college students, graphic designer, a contractor, even a semi driver posted a while back. A lot of office workers post here.

Take some disabilty time if you need it to heal and UC is becoming difficult. Fast track a couple biologics and even consider a surgery consult. Flaring with limited quality of life sucks, need to find yourway out and recover.
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Michelejc
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Posted 2/16/2018 4:12 AM (GMT -8)
I have a desk job. Last flare I had I worked through it. My bosses are very understanding.
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ks1905
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Posted 2/16/2018 4:38 AM (GMT -8)
Don’t suffer, if you want surgery you can get it. If you do having a scarring issue that prevents you from getting a jpouch then you can still get an ostomy without an issue.

It’s not just work but it’s also your quality of life.
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turtlepower
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Posted 2/16/2018 6:59 AM (GMT -8)
I have a job that fluctuates between desk and moving around (Systems Analyst for 6 Distribution Centers). At times, I have 1.5 hr commute to one of the distribution centers, but that is typically once a week. Not too bad.

My boss is super understanding and I'm comfortable enough in my relationship with her that I can tell her when I am not feeling right. (When I told her about my diagnosis, she did her homework so she knows what us UC'ers are up against) More often than not, she encourages me to work from home or just take whatever time off I need when I'm flaring. No questions asked. Couldn't ask for better support than that.

Also I am on FMLA for those extended flares.
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Mak37
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Posted 2/16/2018 8:44 AM (GMT -8)
I’m not saying you should opt for surgery but if you keep failing medications it would be a good idea. My QOL is soooo much better and I wish I had the surgery when I was first diagnosed!
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Poppie
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Posted 2/16/2018 9:21 AM (GMT -8)

Happier! said...
I have been a web designer since 1999. Started working as a consultant from home since I got sick.

I’ve been having arthralgia. My hands aren’t working right. The immunosuppressants have made me catch everything. I keep losing my voice. I have had seizures. Fell on a chef’s knife (having a seizure) and tried to cut off my thumb. That pushed me way behind. Lost clients. Potential new client came for a consultation and I couldn’t get out of the bathroom...

I have failed everything up to now. It seems to work, then doesn’t. Tired of living on rice and applesauce. I just started Humira.

I’m not even a good surgery candidate, since I scar badly and don’t heal well.

Sorry. Venting. Feeling sorry for myself.

I am so sorry to hear this. You really are struggling. I am on Humira and it is working for my UC and I feel pretty good on it. I hope that Humira works for you.
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notsosicklygirl
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Posted 2/16/2018 9:39 AM (GMT -8)
Before surgery I really struggled, always made excuses, and I felt like there was no hope for my career. Now that I had surgery, I realize I can do anything. I can take trips, go to lunches/dinners and eat like a normal person, I can work the same hours as anyone else without needing to go to the toilet all the time. On the other hand, I am an introvert and I really struggle to deal with people on the regular. Luckily I am able to work from home, not because of UC, just because I prefer it, and I am more productive at home. smile

I agree with Keith, take the steps necessary to ensure you live a good quality of life. I lost a lot of time to UC. I lost a lot of opportunities. Sometimes I wonder where my career would be if I hadn't spent so much time sick, but that's neither here nor there... It's gone and I could have lost a lot more time.
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beatUC
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Posted 2/16/2018 9:41 AM (GMT -8)
I had a job that I loved in the IT industry. I tried like hell to keep going to work before I passed out in the parking lot on my way to my desk and ended up in the hospital for over 30 days.
Holding a job is extremely hard when you have UC and the government really cant help much. We are basically screwed....
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ks1905
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Posted 2/16/2018 10:50 AM (GMT -8)
I'm not saying that you should have surgery but that it is an option that could improve your life if medications can't help you.

I'd suggest getting a second opinion from another GI to discuss your options, specifically one that is an IBD specialist. Maybe even a surgical consultation if that is something that you think could benefit you. Just because you have a consultation doesn't mean that you need to have surgery.
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imagardener2
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Posted 2/16/2018 11:32 AM (GMT -8)
I was successfully self-employed as a location photographer when UC appeared and it severely impacted my ability to perform. I had a business partner but my job was doing the photography, no photography no paycheck. Luckily I was able to hire a photographer I trusted not to steal my clients for that part of the job and my business continued with no loss of income. I do not know what I could have done if employed by someone else because my symptoms of uncontrollable urgency made normal functioning almost impossible.

It took years to find a way to control my symptoms which most employed people do not have (years I mean) so surgery would have been inevitable for me I think. I also do not have children so again less complicated than other people's schedules (although I worked 7 days 12+ hour days seasonally).

People with no idea of what UC symptoms are like think it just involves having a bathroom down the hall if needed. "Can't you just hold it?" No, duh, if I could do that it wouldn't be a life-changing disease, which it is.
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ks1905
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Posted 2/16/2018 1:11 PM (GMT -8)
Please don't be insulted by my suggestion but have you looked at Fiverr or Upwork? Fiverr has changed over the years and they have some high paying gig (compared to the way it started). I was scrolling through WP designers at Fiverr and some gigs are going for $1,200 for 10 pages. Many of the Pro-designers there started out and built their way up to the higher paying gigs.

I hope that Humira works for you. QOL is the most important thing, it seems like you are struggling and need to get your symptoms under control. If the Humira is the correct dosing for you then you should know within 3 months that it will work for you; there are tests to measure the Humira levels in your body.
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Happier!
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Posted 2/16/2018 1:42 PM (GMT -8)
Thank you for the suggestions.
The problem is not finding work. It is the inability to do the work.
My vision and my hands are not working now.
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notbob
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Posted 2/16/2018 3:52 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Happier!, Reading your post just reminded me of how miserable life can be with UC. I suffered for almost three years with the flare from hell, and tried every therapy I could find. But, I don't think I would have been happy had I not tried all the alternatives. Didn't want to have any what-ifs. I was probably half dead when I finally made the decision to have a perm ileo. For me it's been miraculous. I agree with Keith, talk with a surgeon. No harm in talking. I had a consult with my surgeon several months before I decided to go for it.
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ks1905
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Posted 2/16/2018 5:26 PM (GMT -8)
Some of the secondary manifestations from UC like joint pain and eye problems go away for some people after they have their diseased colon removed. I never had any secondary manifestations from UC so I can not comment personally, all of my joint paint was from Prednisone. I will tell you that I felt so much better after I woke up from my colectomy. My GI told me that I’d wake up and feel like the monster had left my body, be was correct.

I had 3 consultations with surgeons before I had my surgery.
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Posted 2/16/2018 6:03 PM (GMT -8)
I am a full time firefighter/Paramedic in the 8th largest FD in the nation as well as a full time real estate agent. I am also a father of 2 young children with a very supportive wife and family. I have 2 very successful careers and UC, it can be done you just have to keep a positive attitude and do what you can. This past year I have been Flaring for 8 months and it was my most productive year in real estate by far. Keep your head up don’t let this god foresaken disease win.
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Connor77
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Posted 2/17/2018 4:17 AM (GMT -8)
I've had UC for 5 years and have not been working for the last 2 of those. I enter periods of relative remission where I'm healthy, fit, normal weight, no bowel symptoms... and then the rug gets pulled out all over again and I start dying. My UC defies analysis. I flare cyclically once a year, like clockwork. 3-4 months flaring and 7-8 months healthy makes having a permanent anything impossible. So these past two years I have pretty much given up on pursuing anything worthwhile and I live a relatively reclusive life.

I don't know what's worse... always being in a flare or always having a short-lived remission. I spend my life in fear wondering when the other shoe will drop. Everyone tells me to think positively but I can't afford to. The longer I've been without a flare the higher the chance that one will happen. It's total hell.

I'm in the most productive years of my life, age wise, but I'm missing a lot of opportunity. At the same time, I can't physically or psychologically handle surgery. I've been to the support groups in person, met people with ostomies, had surgery consults. I have a complex history of repetitive, ongoing trauma in my life and I just can't handle something like having my body cut open and organs removed. I'd need therapy for life and probably never recover. Not that living with the disease isn't doing psychological damage. There are just no good solutions and I'm not prepared to have surgery if there is *any chance* of complications, whether it's a j-pouch or permanent ileo that I end up with. Living with the disease is more of a "better the devil you know" situation. Like I said, this disease is hell, and the "solutions" are all hell. I am angry at modern medicine for not coming up with better options.

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Connor77
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Posted 2/17/2018 5:12 AM (GMT -8)
I lived a very full life in my 20's. Traveled a lot, learned languages, got education. Had I known that those were going to be my best days, I would have done things differently. I would've kept traveling instead of going to school and doing the responsible things. I would've focused more on having fun. Everyone says, "Your best days are ahead of you." At this rate, I highly doubt it.

The thought of surgery doesn't scare me. It's the risk of permanent complications that scare me. It could mean trading one unfulfilled way of living for another. I've read lots of positive stories about ostomates who are so happy they got surgery; and I've also read a lot of horror stories. If anything went wrong with surgery, my j-pouch, or my ostomy, it would just feed into my PTSD story about how life is out to get me and I would go crazy. I can't handle anymore trauma. Something like that would push me to suicide, honestly.

I really don't think modern medicine is ever going to cure us because curing us is not their priority -- making money is. They can't make money unless we are dependent on them and they create dependency by creating bogus medicine. Take for example Fecal Microbiota Transplants (FMT). The FDA banned it for all but treatment resistant c. diff. I have personally spoken to doctors online who have patients that are dying of c. diff but they can't jump right to FMT because they haven't tried all the other treatments yet. Our medical system is unethical and greedy. The only way a cure will happen is if some independent researchers go renegade and invent a solution, like the team working on the Crohn's MAP vaccine in the UK with independent funding. But big pharma? Forget it. They will sell us snake oil to treat symptoms but they have no interest in curing us. It's not for lack of technology or expertise, it's just screwed up human priorities. I have been around medical people for years and it's been part of my education. I know the way the system works against earnest people who really are looking for a cure. People who propose research into anything that threatens the bottom line of corporations don't get funding. I've seen it countless times.

I can walk and get out. I just can't do any of the things I really love. I can't hold a job, I can't travel, I can't eat most foods I enjoy. I can't date nor would I want to because what partner would have me. Basically my whole way of living has been destroyed and I am just coping. I don't have friendly neighbours. I live in a typical big urban city, and unlike 30 years ago all cities are the same now. All my generation is obsessed with career, money and affording housing, so they just don't have the time. And being disabled is isolating in any decade, especially when your disability involves bowel movements. Last night I was invited to a party... I couldn't go because I was exhausted and had to sleep for 3 hours in the evening. It's now 5am and I'm wide awake because I woke up with pain. I got offered a temp job today to make some money -- will I be able to go or even perform adequately? Not sure. I'll have not slept very much.

I landed my dream job last year and lost it within 3 months due to a flare. Really, there is no point anymore. My life is about suffering and isolation, and that's about it. Any meaning or purpose I invent gets wiped out by an eventual flare. The only satisfaction I sometimes get is by sharing the different treatments I've tried that people may be unaware of because maybe it will at least help them. I keep trying things and they keep failing. I'm pretty much at the bottom of the barrel now with what I can try, and I've really, really tried everything.

Last month I created a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) order through my doctor. If I have another major flare again I'm going to refuse treatment. Can't handle anymore trauma. Euthanasia is legal here but not for UC because it can be "cured" with surgery so I'm going about it the only way I can. I think calling that a "cure" is just part of the bogus agenda of modern medicine because they can't admit their utter failure to treat this disease. "Cured" actually means you walk away with your body (and sanity) in tact, and you go back to a normal life. If they can't offer me that then I'm not interested. Ostomates aren't "cured" anymore than a soldier is "cured" when you amputate his leg after shrapnel injures him. They aren't cured, they're survivors.

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Killjoy123
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Posted 2/17/2018 5:38 AM (GMT -8)
I was a Fireman in a big city my UC started about 3 years ago. I was taking antibiotics for a sinus infection took one set didn't work DR recommended a second set of antibiotics took that and my life hasn't been the same. I had no choice but to retire I guess I'm lucky in a way that I have a pension.
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Posted 2/17/2018 5:50 AM (GMT -8)
Connor

I hope your FMT trial goes well and you get some improvement.
You have the right to your feelings about not wanting surgery but consider that you may be depressed (every right to be, again) an emotion that is also related to the gut. Please talk to your GI about this. I know you've tried most treatments but some people have gotten UC symptom improvement from anti-depressants (search this forum).

Your isolation (no partner, no community) is adding to your UC symptoms. Yes there are potential partners who could offer emotional support but yes it would be hard to deal with a love life which may have ups and downs of it's own. Have you thought about getting a dog or cat? (not joking). Having something/someone else to think about is beneficial.

UC can be "one day at a time" when things are at their worst. What if surgery gave you your normal life back? The numbers support that outcome.
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