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ks1905
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Posted 10/30/2018 7:09 PM (GMT -7)
I eat a medium sized breakfast and snack for lunch. I eat a larger dinner. I never have to wake up at night.

When I had a colon I wouldn’t eat breakfast but would eat lunch and dinner.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
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3timechamp
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Posted 10/30/2018 8:09 PM (GMT -7)
ok so what do u think is your transit time???
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ks1905
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Posted 10/31/2018 6:12 AM (GMT -7)
I went to the bathroom at 9pm last night and no salad seen, and then I went at 8:30am this morning with salad output. 14.5 hour transit time. I could have held it much longer but went because I was on my way out the door for the day.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226
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ks1905
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Posted 10/31/2018 3:34 PM (GMT -7)
I emptied my pouch at 6 pm for the 2nd time today. There was some undigested salad so it has been about 24 hours. I’ll probably empty my pouch once more before I go to bed for a total of 3 times today.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226
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3timechamp
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Posted 10/31/2018 5:19 PM (GMT -7)
Everybody different?? maybe
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Posted 11/1/2018 4:29 AM (GMT -7)
When you eat your muscles in the digestive system start working and wake up. That's probably why you have a BM shortly after you eat but it's most likely not the food you just ate, more so the food that was sitting in your intestines from before that just got moving from the muscle activity of eating.

5-6 hours I can see, but if you're eating dinner at 7 I doubt you see that food at 9:30 (Not sure what dinner and bedtime are for you).
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songlady
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Posted 11/1/2018 10:45 AM (GMT -7)
I ate a lentil stew Tuesday evening for dinner (and paid for it later - enough gas to inflate a hot air balloon!). I ate about 6:00 and I believe I saw lentils in my BM about 2 or 3 am.

I bet everyone is somewhat different in transit time and that it also varies with the health of the person and with the diet, not only of that meal but of a day or two before a certain meal. My transit time always seemed faster when I was in a UC flare than when I was in remission.
Age 62. Diagnosed UP 1983, UC 1986
Step One surgery on 12/28/17.
Surgery: planned. The colon cancer they found: a surprise.
Prior meds: sulfasalizine, Asacol, Delzicol, Lialda,
6 MP, Humira, Metamucil
two hips replaced thanks to pred.
6 months of chemo finished 7/9/18
Reversal to J pouch 8/9/18
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3timechamp
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Posted 11/1/2018 6:36 PM (GMT -7)
Song how you doing??? How's work?? Are u getting a normal routine?? I'm doing good 10 weeks post surgery and I'm getting up in morning,no anxiety like pre surgery I can drive any distance for work even though my jobs are pretty close to home. I don't eat much breakfast. Lunch depends how hungry I am,usually sandwich from deli. Dinner is a good healthy meal. I was 230lbs before last surgery. Went down to 216. I'm almost 227 so appetite good. Stool always on loose side. I take few imodium and 1-2 lomitil per day. NSSG lives with loose stool after few years of surgery like others do so that's what I expect to live with. Hope your doing well
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songlady
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Posted 11/2/2018 2:58 PM (GMT -7)
Hi Champ - I am doing well for the most part! Usually going 9 times a day, which includes 2 times at night (and I've been getting up 2 times a night for bladder anyway for years). I've realized I'm just doing stuff, not thinking about "can I do this without needing the bathroom in the next hour" any more. So, my work is going fine, which is some in office and some out at different locations, - except that I do have some evening meetings, and like you, I have that bunch of bathroom trips between dinner and bed. So I trying not to attend too many night meetings!

I am still taking Immodium before each meal and Lomotil at night. Need to start cutting down, but I want to feel like I'm really ok before I start doing that.

My stool varies from liquid to soft semi-logs. Seems to depend on what I eat. Metamucil helps; I am taking less than half of what I used to take for years with UC!

I am still losing weight since the reversal, but I've always been borderline obese, so this is wonderful. 45 pounds for me since before chemo. I weigh what I weighed when I got married 37 years ago!

I went to a work-related dinner meeting a few days ago where a vegetarian Middle Eastern meal was served (hummus, baba ghanoush, curried lentils) and went 12 times a day for two days after, gas all night (waking up each time to feel if it was gas or BM..) and butt burn.... exhausting week!

Adding to my life is that my mom (age 92, COPD for 20 years) just gave up driving, sold her car, was dxed with a 2 x2 x2 inch mass in a lung and wants nature to take its course.....so I am doing a lot for her. Hello, stress.

I wonder how valli is doing on vacation!

Best to you -
SLMeg
Age 62. Diagnosed UP 1983, UC 1986
Step One surgery on 12/28/17.
Surgery: planned. The colon cancer they found: a surprise.
Prior meds: sulfasalizine, Asacol, Delzicol, Lialda,
6 MP, Humira, Metamucil
two hips replaced thanks to pred.
6 months of chemo finished 7/9/18
Reversal to J pouch 8/9/18
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3timechamp
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Posted 11/2/2018 8:05 PM (GMT -7)
Was think of Valli also.Hope her vacation is going well.Yea I'm tall and slim 6'5-227 and have been in that area most of my adult life[My Dad was on obese side [6'-270] so i don't have his genes] so I'm usually ok with weight.Im lucky i sleep thru night pretty much always so I'm grateful for that.Have to talk with surgeon about staying on imodium/lomitil for rest of my life???? Now if stool is very loose if I'm taking them what would it be if i wasn't???? million $ question.Overall I'm adjusting to The Loose stool life.My wound still has a large scab but it should be gone soon.Stay well my friend
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valli1234
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Posted 11/11/2018 10:28 PM (GMT -7)
Hi everyone
Vacation was wonderful, we visited St Lucia on a cruise this summer and went back for a few weeks because I literally fell in love with the island and people. If you ever get a chance to visit stay at the Royal resort and spa it has the best beach on the island and to me the best staff which went out of their way to always check in on me and make sure I was OK after running to the bathroom.
I learned the hard way last year to relax and take life easy stress will kill you or at least take your colon... sad so enjoy life travel and take life a day at a time. Wish I did all that before...

Well I learned alcohol and my new pouch do not want to work together ( rude pouch ) lol. I would only have a few drinks a day most of time just pina colada not sure if it was the sweet sugar or coconut cream but I would often run to the bathroom and just make it in time. Our room was located just steps away from the beach which made life easy.
I wish I could say I'm doing well like a few of you already, but my bathroom trips have not decreased at all. Today I had homemade pancakes around 10 am with blueberries yes I know blueberries are off the table right now but there were only a small handful of them anyways about 4 hours later did I pay for that I must have gone at lease 5 times in over an hour and still am having a off day. If I had to guess the amount of trips today I would say an easy 15-18 and bad cramps. The butt burn is unreal even on holidays I had to jump into an Epson salt bath a few times a day, I found the ocean stung my butt a lot... but that didn't stop me from going in , I'm a beach kind of girl so the ocean is my best friend butt burn and all.
I have a scope coming up the first week of December I hope she can find out what is going on...I need to know if this is normal or just an adjustment stage.
How is everyone else ???
47 year old female mother of 4
UC since 1993 remission off and on
The last flare-up was 2008 till 2009 then remission till June 2017
Hospitalized November for 5 weeks removed my colon Dec 12
Anemia 4 blood transfusions in those 5 weeks.
prednisone, asacol, pentasa,encort enemas, steriod enemas, hurmia all failed
Proctitis Jan 2018
March 19 2nd surgery J pouch
Next surgery late Aug 8 takedown
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songlady
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Posted 11/13/2018 5:11 PM (GMT -7)
Hi Valli! Welcome back! I am glad your vacation was good! And I am sorry that the alcohol didn't agree, and that you are still running for the bathroom that frequently. I hope when you have your appointment they can come up with a solution for you.
I am keeping track of how many times I am having a BM because my surgeon asked me to. And I do see progress. A few days ago, there was one day when I went only 6 times! (Interestingly, I was work all day, even through lunch that day. Hmm.) But then the next day was like 10 times.
It definitely depends on what I eat. Wine increases the number. And a lot of things give me butt burn: tomato anything, sweet pickles - anything vinegary like prepared antipasto; nuts, coconut (big time!!)... I think my beef stew gives me burn?! (Probably the wine I add in the cooking.)
I can eat a very small amount of chocolate, but not much. (We had leftover Halloween candy. a small Mound bar caused agony. One mini Hershey bar is fine; three are Ouch.)
I am so glad you got away and you survived to say you had a good time! That in itself is a huge victory! smile
Age 62. Diagnosed UP 1983, UC 1986
Step One surgery on 12/28/17.
Surgery: planned. The colon cancer they found: a surprise.
Prior meds: sulfasalizine, Asacol, Delzicol, Lialda,
6 MP, Humira, Metamucil
two hips replaced thanks to pred.
6 months of chemo finished 7/9/18
Reversal to J pouch 8/9/18
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valli1234
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Posted 11/13/2018 7:13 PM (GMT -7)
Thank you Songlady the holiday was what I needed. And 6 times a day that’s awesome , I agree sometimes it’s what you eat . But there have been times I eat only bland foods and it still kills coming out . Like you chocolate doesn’t agree either does wine ... what is left to have if we can’t consume either lol smile
Good news my surgeon squeezed me in tomorrow morning for my scope. There is no way I could have waited till December the pressure is only getting worst .
Will let you know how it went
I am being put out so I shouldn’t feel anything ... well let’s hope
47 year old female mother of 4
UC since 1993 remission off and on
The last flare-up was 2008 till 2009 then remission till June 2017
Hospitalized November for 5 weeks removed my colon Dec 12
Anemia 4 blood transfusions in those 5 weeks.
prednisone, asacol, pentasa,encort enemas, steriod enemas, hurmia all failed
Proctitis Jan 2018
March 19 2nd surgery J pouch
Next surgery late Aug 8 takedown
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notsosicklygirl
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Posted 11/13/2018 7:28 PM (GMT -7)
Thanks for the update song and valli. I am so happy you've managed to get in tomorrow for that scope. It should only take a few minutes, but with the symptoms you're describing, getting sedated is the smart choice - something is definitely going on and a scope while there's something is always uncomfortable. Did you do better while you were on the flagyl? Did you do the 10 day course or did you stop it earlier? I think at a certain point it's probably not so much the food, but the condition itself, that is causing the problems. Once you get it treated you will be back to chocolate and pina coladas. I am happy to hear you enjoyed your trip. it sounds incredible. Please let me know how it goes tomorrow.

songlady, 6x! woo, celebration!! I notice I have days with more and less too. Seems like there's no rhyme or reason but i definitely go more when I am in my own home and there's no reason not to go. When I am out, sometimes i put it off if it's inconvenient.
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3timechamp
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Posted 11/13/2018 7:40 PM (GMT -7)
Valli let us know if they find anything. We're all different it seems. I didn't go at all during Day yesterday besides after waking up. Breakfast is very light if anything. Was too busy to think about it So far have gone 2x since I got home from work. Ate very light today so maybe that's why low BMs. I'm a recovering alcoholic(29 years sober) so no alcohol here. Everything going very well here. When I don't have time to overeat I'm usually good. Contracting buisness is 10-12 hour days so that keeps me busy. 12 weeks today since surgery 3. God bless
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ks1905
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Posted 11/13/2018 9:05 PM (GMT -7)
Valli,

Sounds like the Flagyl isn’t working for your pouchitis. There are other antibiotics. I found that the combination of both cipro and augmentin works the best for me.

Did the Flagyl improve your symptoms at all?
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226
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valli1234
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Posted 11/14/2018 12:49 AM (GMT -7)
Hi guys thanks for the reply ks1905, NSSG, 3TC and Songlady
I know something isn’t right ... I see we are all a bit different I get that now and food can trigger it plus whatever I have is also triggering the amount I go plus the pain . 3TC I wish I only went a few times like you had the other day . I am glad all is well for you ... that is my goal.
To answer the antibiotics question I took it for 5 days the doctor said if it didn’t work in a few days get off since I was going away it wasn’t worth staying on . So I am assuming another one or two antibiotics will do the trick
Its at a point where I just want to feel a bit normal waking up with bum pressure so bad that I have to race to the bathroom to elevate the pressure then having to jump into the tub with hot water to soak myself because the pain is unbearable ( sitting in the tub now its 2:50 am ) this isn’t how I invisioned my life with a J pouch )
I hope this can be resolved tomorrow and I can start to get it under control.,
47 year old female mother of 4
UC since 1993 remission off and on
The last flare-up was 2008 till 2009 then remission till June 2017
Hospitalized November for 5 weeks removed my colon Dec 12
Anemia 4 blood transfusions in those 5 weeks.
prednisone, asacol, pentasa,encort enemas, steriod enemas, hurmia all failed
Proctitis Jan 2018
March 19 2nd surgery J pouch
Next surgery late Aug 8 takedown
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ks1905
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Posted 11/14/2018 6:59 AM (GMT -7)
Valli,

I would encourage you to call your doctor and get a new script for a different antibiotic.

Flagyl really never worked for me.

I took antibiotics for almost 3 years for pouchitis. The best advice that I have is to treat it fast and be aggressive with your treatment/antibiotics.

Don’t get down, I am very happy with my pouch. I wasn’t a fan at first but once I got it working then I’ve been much happier with it. I can now drink alcohol with my jpouch.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226
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Posted 11/14/2018 8:39 AM (GMT -7)
Valli keep up the fight. Your a power of example to me and you will be to others. As with what we went thru with active UC you and your Dr will find out what u need to get better quality of life.

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valli1234
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Posted 11/15/2018 3:51 PM (GMT -7)
Had a rough day after the scope a lot of bleeding and the feeling of gas and bloating it was my rare excuse to sleep half the day. lol . The doctor said they took some biopsy and she could see some ulcerations inside the pouch, she wants to wait till she get the results back of the biopsy to see what they are dealing with. Before the scope she said since the flagy didn't work she didn't think it was pouchitis, I mentioned to her that I was on a chat site and a few others had mentioned that it may take a different antibiotics or a combination of a few to work.... her response was dont trust everything you read on the internet. I was already in a mood yesterday ( no food, no coffee, lethal bottle of liquid up my back door etc.. ) and thought to myself lady I am going to tear out your colon if you give me that " dont trust everything you read on the internet crap". Its like when I point something out she dismisses it or her response is " that is normal" sorry to say what I am experiencing is NOT normal. If going 20 times a day, experiencing sharp spams in my rump normal then WOW this j pouch is crap. I feel like I need to talk to a g gastroenterologist not a surgeon the problem is I do not have a gatro now since all this started I left the guy I had a few cities away and wanted one closer. It is hard here in Canada to see a specialist unless you are already in the hospital. My wait would be a few months at least
I dont think my surgeon has a lot of experience with J pouchs. I just know everything I am feeling is not normal and after 4 months with my new pouch I should be adjusting to it now still in pain.
47 year old female mother of 4
UC since 1993 remission off and on
The last flare-up was 2008 till 2009 then remission till June 2017
Hospitalized November for 5 weeks removed my colon Dec 12
Anemia 4 blood transfusions in those 5 weeks.
prednisone, asacol, pentasa,encort enemas, steriod enemas, hurmia all failed
Proctitis Jan 2018
March 19 2nd surgery J pouch
Next surgery late Aug 8 takedown
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Posted 11/15/2018 4:15 PM (GMT -7)
When I first got my jpouch I thought that all of my problems were just the adjustment period but they were actually pouchitis.

I would think that ulcers would be a give away that you need treatment and most likely antibiotics.

Where were the ulcers located? In the pouch or above/entrance to the pouch?

What’s the downside to trying a different antibiotic? Why should you suffer and wait for the biopsies?

I’d start looking tomorrow for a GI with Jpouch experience.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226
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Posted 11/15/2018 6:15 PM (GMT -7)
I am so sorry valli. I agree with your doctor about not trusting everything you read, but I don't think that's an appropriate response to your particular question given the circumstances. There are ulcers, you're having a lot of symptoms, and they are quite debilitating... I am not saying she should jump up and offer you whatever you've heard is the answer, but she should look into options, check with other surgeons/GIs annd refer you if necessary & she should do it quickly. You have been quite patient. At least you've got the biopsies getting checked out. You're getting closer to a finding answers.
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ks1905
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Posted 11/20/2018 8:31 PM (GMT -7)
Valli,

Were you able to get a different antibiotic or combination of antibiotics?
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226
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valli1234
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Posted 11/21/2018 6:52 AM (GMT -7)
KS the doctor wants to wait for the biopsy results, I don’t understand what they will show. I have settled down a wee bit during the days . Yesterday during the day I only went 4 times then around 4 pm I went 5 times within an hour and another 8 all evening and night till morning .
The spasm were so intense around 4 pm I couldn’t walk before the bathroom trip or after for at least 10 mins
Once again I am so thankful I work from home there is no way I would be able to function after some bathroom trips. On average still going 15 times a day. This morning I have been up since 7:30 am and already had 2 bathroom trips all liquid so those guys don’t hurt and never cause the spasms in the butt area.
What’s a regular day for you KS?
47 year old female mother of 4
UC since 1993 remission off and on
The last flare-up was 2008 till 2009 then remission till June 2017
Hospitalized November for 5 weeks removed my colon Dec 12
Anemia 4 blood transfusions in those 5 weeks.
prednisone, asacol, pentasa,encort enemas, steriod enemas, hurmia all failed
Proctitis Jan 2018
March 19 2nd surgery J pouch
Next surgery late Aug 8 takedown
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Posted 11/21/2018 7:03 AM (GMT -7)
I wake up and go about an hour later, then again around 3-4PM and once before bed. I never wake up at night to empty. I average 2-4 times a day. Most of the time it’s 3.

I eat and drink whatever I want.

You could ask for some antispasm meds to help with your spasm issue.

My first 6 months were very rough. At one point I was bed ridden for a week because of pouchitis. I have ulcers in my pouch too.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara
Total Hip Replacement: 12/16 -- Thanks Prednisone!!!
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3755226

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