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jess*
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Posted 1/18/2020 9:48 AM (GMT -7)
Hi everyone!! It has been years since I've been here as this form has helped me get back into remission when I start to flare. I came back wondering if anyone has been taking magnesium and minerals, (liquid minerals, magnesium lotion) ? I think they may be too hard on my intestines as I started to flare. I honestly don't know if it's the reason though. Thought I'd try to sort it out.
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IamCurious
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Posted 1/18/2020 6:23 PM (GMT -7)
Since most people, especially IBDers, are deficient in magnesium I try to supplement but not more than 250-300 mgs/day. Magnesium is a laxative (think Milk of Magnesia) and Magnesium Citrate is a colonoscopy prep. So I am afraid to take too much.

You could supplement magnesium with Epsom Salt baths that lets your body obtain mag thru bypassing the digestive system.
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Posted 1/18/2020 6:24 PM (GMT -7)
Magnesium supplements throw my colon into overdrive Not diarrhea so much as cramping. I can tolerate it better if I’m not flaring. But only in small quantities. Well think about it. Milk of magnesia is a laxative
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ambling
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Posted 1/18/2020 8:21 PM (GMT -7)
Are you low in magnesium?

It might worsen symptoms, but is unlikely to cause a flare...

( There is no credible evidence that epsom salt baths raise levels of magnesium in the body:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc5579607/ )
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Scarecrow
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Posted 1/19/2020 4:16 AM (GMT -7)
I have been taking Magnesium Taurate for about 5 years now. It is supposed to have least laxative effect of the magnesium supplements. I have never had a problem. I was using a topical magnesium for a while but it makes you itch for a while.
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ld2186
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Posted 1/19/2020 6:59 AM (GMT -7)
I'm low in magnesium and therefore take 400 mg of Magnesium Glycinate daily. I couldn't tolerate this while I was flaring and I'd advise be careful with this supp -- it can cause diarrhea. If you're looking for a quality supp, I recommend Pure Encapsulations, which you can get on Amazon.

When I was flaring, I took topical magnesium -- a spray which I applied to my legs and feet. My GI admitted that it wasn't giving me much magnesium but also that it wasn't hurting me. My understanding is that the best way to get magnesium is through the foods you eat, but some people need to supplement.

Best,
Lisa
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IamCurious
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Posted 1/19/2020 12:58 PM (GMT -7)

ambling said...
( There is no credible evidence that epsom salt baths raise levels of magnesium in the body:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc5579607/ )

Thanks for the link. It is very informative with useful information.
For example: Table 1 Magnesium: Deficiency signs and symptoms

General
Anxiety, lethargy, weakness, agitation, depression, dysmenorrhea, hyperactivity, headache, irritability, dysacusis, low stress tolerance, loss of appetite, nausea, sleep disorders, impaired athletic performance.

Musculature
Muscle spasm, cramps in the soles of the feet, leg cramps, facial muscles, masticatory muscles, and calves, carpopedal spasm, back aches, neck pain, urinary spasms, magnesium deficiency tetany.

Nerves/CNS
Nervousness, increased sensitivity of NMDA receptors to excitatory neurotransmitters, migraine, depression, nystagmus, paraesthesia, poor memory, seizures, tremor, vertigo.

Gastrointestinal tract
Constipation.

Cardiovascular system
Risk of arrhythmias, supraventricular or ventricular arrhythmias, hypertension, coronary spasm, decreased myocardial pump function, digitalis sensitivity, torsade de pointes, death from heart disease.

Electrolytes
Hypokalaemia, hypocalcaemia, retention of sodium.

Metabolism
Dyslipoproteinemia (increased blood triglycerides and cholesterol), decreased glucose tolerance, insulin resistance, increased risk of metabolic syndrome, disturbances of bone and vitamin D metabolism, resistance to PTH, low circulating levels of PTH, resistance to vitamin D, low circulating levels of 25(OH)D, recurrence of calcium oxalate calculi.

Miscellaneous
Asthma, chronic fatigue syndrome, osteoporosis, hypertension, altered glucose homeostasis.

Pregnancy
Pregnancy complications (e.g., miscarriage, premature labor, eclampsia).

Post Edited (IamCurious) : 1/20/2020 5:11:39 AM (GMT-7)

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ambling
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Posted 1/19/2020 3:39 PM (GMT -7)
You're welcome. Perhaps you'll stop spreading the myth that Epsom salt baths can replace oral supplements.
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IamCurious
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Posted 1/19/2020 6:56 PM (GMT -7)
Why are you calling this a myth. Even the link you provided:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5579607/

says the jury is still out on this subject and more research is needed:
”Magnesium might be able to get into the lymphatic system beneath the dermis and enter the circulatory system, bypassing the regulation through the GI tract and hereby increasing serum magnesium”

I prefer daily oral supplementation because it is more reliable. I haven't seen any studies proving that epsom salts do not provide any magnesium, although so far it is hard to know exactly how much magnesium is actually absorbed through the skin.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27624531
Upon topical application of magnesium solution, we found that magnesium penetrates through human stratum corneum and it depends on concentration and time of exposure. We also found that hair follicles make a significant contribution to magnesium penetration.
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ambling
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Posted 1/19/2020 8:30 PM (GMT -7)
It is a myth until shown otherwise.

The studies do not show any meaningful increase in levels.

It is unwise, when people have serious health conditions, to make false claims such as you have done.
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VanJordan
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Posted 1/20/2020 6:39 AM (GMT -7)
ambling, I convinced my doctor to prescribe magnesium injections to me. I give them to myself once a day. The bottle says "magnesium sulphate 500mg/mL 30mL". Maybe you can ask your doc for this, but if they aren't willing to let you do it at home then it's kinda pointless. Some docs will only give mag injections in their office, and you need it every day so that just won't work.

I can't tolerate magnesium orally, not one bit. I tried every formulation and I tried taking it in the smallest amounts. All it does is make me crap, sometimes painfully and violently. The same thing sometimes happens with other mineral supplements, but magnesium is the worst one.

The injections are painful. My old doctor let me have a bottle of lidocaine with the magnesium. I would take .5mL of lidocaine into the syringe and then fill the rest of the syringe with magnesium sulphate, then inject into my quads. I wouldn't feel anything. My current doctor will not give me lidocaine so I just bite through. If you go deep enough and get the right muscle, it doesn't hurt too, too bad. By injection I get about 300mg of mag every day and it's a godsend. I wouldn't do it unless it were worth it and it's totally worth it. I really think mag is essential for IBD recovery now that I've been using it for a long time.

It's true, you can definitely get mag through baths and through mag chloride "oil" that you rub on your body, but the amount you absorb is so small you will never get your RDA, certainly not 300-400mg! If you can't take it orally your best bet is injection, but good luck finding a doc who's open to letting you do that. Most docs think that IM mag is for hospital setting only which is not true, that's IV mag. If you inject into your muscle then the muscle slowly releases it over hours and it's very safe. If the bigger syringes scare you then you can use an insulin syringe and give yourself smaller amounts. It won't meet your RDA that way but any bit helps.
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