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How Many Truly Believe That Food Will Cause/Stop A Flare

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UCinsouthfl
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Posted 1/22/2021 3:09 PM (GMT -6)
Hey Guys,

I'm still battling a flare over here, and I was just curious what you guys thought about the food/flare debate.

I totally think that there are some foods and drinks that make things worse during a flare, but what are your thoughts about food causing a flare, or diet being able to prevent or control a flare?

My experience has been that while exasperating symptoms, diet alone cannot prevent flares, or stop a flare, or even pull you out of a flare.

To give a little personal info, im a 38 year old male. I'm 6' at 170 lbs. Was in good shape before being diagnosed. I have struggled since to remain healthy, and while I don't eat perfectly, my diet is not near as bad as it could be. No fried food, try to do processed as little as possible, as well as little to no sweets. I do drink coffee everyday. I have a hard time with soda, anything with vinegar, fried food etc...

Your opinions are appreciated!
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FlowersGal
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Posted 1/22/2021 5:01 PM (GMT -6)
I feel the same as you. I think while flaring that foods can over-irritate an already raw gut and cause an increase in symptoms but the food item does not *cause* the symptoms.

When I was flaring I tried all the diets. I cut out red meat, flour/gluten, sugar, dairy. Nothing I cut out or ate made me better. Now that I’m in remission I can eat anything. Except I still have no desire to have tomato-sauce based foods and I try to limit sugar but that one is tough for me.
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Jane974
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Posted 1/22/2021 5:29 PM (GMT -6)
There is enough research on diet (AID-IBD, SCD, plant based) to show that it's very helpful as an adjunct or primary in some cases for maintaining remission. It also makes sense that eating foods that are anti-inflammatory would reduce inflammation throughout the body and gut. UC is so heterogenous that one thing does not work for anyone. I eat an anti-inflammatory diet and was able to have a long 12 year remission that was primarily med free. Plus my labs are always super low due to diet (CRP and ESR are lowest possible at under 1).

Even if it helps in 30% of people, it's worth a shot. In severe UC, it's unlikely to help, but in mild to moderate cases, diet is more likely to be useful. Many of the UC meds only induce remission in 30-40% of people so many of us need combination treatments. Meds alone are not going to do the trick for many with UC.
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countess18
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Posted 1/22/2021 5:32 PM (GMT -6)
I agree with flowers as I also tried every imaginable natural thing and it didn’t work. Once in remission, I can eat anything although I don’t eat raw veggies (too chicken to try). I tried SCD and withered away to nothing. IBD AID diet ugh made me worse . Etc etc
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seattleibdho
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Posted 1/22/2021 10:30 PM (GMT -6)
Seems like changing my diet helped me. I use to eat junk non stop when I was first diagnosed with UC/Crohns and would flare a lot. They put me on Remicade and I would still flare, maybe 3 times a year. When I changed my diet and cut out sugar and alcohol I haven't had a flare since. I am still on Remicade though but weird.
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IamCurious
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Posted 1/23/2021 9:17 AM (GMT -6)
How Many Truly Believe That Food Will Cause/Stop A Flare

It has not been in my experience that food will stop a flare, however I monitor my diet for triggering foods to help prevent flares.
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quincy
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Posted 1/23/2021 1:11 PM (GMT -6)
Food has never caused me a flare...guaranteed... in the 32 years since diagnosis.
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notsosicklygirl
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Posted 1/23/2021 7:33 PM (GMT -6)
I've never seen any evidence that food can stop or start a flare.
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UCinsouthfl
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Posted 1/23/2021 8:35 PM (GMT -6)
Thanks Guys!

I agree completely! While I do think certain foods can make things worse, I don’t believe that what I eat causes a flare, or has the ability get me out of one.

I eat fairly healthy, and tried different diets when first diagnosed(9 years ago), but overtime, have determined that it doesn’t matter that much.

I get backlash from some family members, and I’m constantly feeling judged because I don’t eat a super strict diet..

Your opinions have been appreciated!

Thanks
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poopydoop
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Posted 1/24/2021 3:47 AM (GMT -6)
When I'm flaring, I avoid foods that make me feel worse. Fibre is the main problem, i.e. most vegetables and legumes. As my bowel heals I can slowly re introduce foods.
I totally get you about being judged by others. It's really frustrating. You get judged for not eating a strict diet but also judged when you do follow one (especially when it limits you as a dinner guest).
I've done scd and paleo diets, it was basically just giving myself malnutrition and exhaustion. My body needs carbohydrates or i can't function.
It's been a big relief to find drugs that work. (And a supportive doctor and a therapist....) no more shame or guilt about my diet and lifestyle.
My therapist said people are frightened by the idea of not being in control of their bodies, therefore they try to find reasons why others get sick (poor diet, no self love, whatever...). I once had a yoga teacher tell me "the reason why you're not getting better is because you don't have enough love in your life"....
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quincy
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Posted 1/24/2021 12:56 PM (GMT -6)
Poopy...well said.
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brucen36
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Posted 1/24/2021 1:47 PM (GMT -6)
Foods cause my flares and also end my flares. I have cheated and uncheated on SCD too many times to recall over 15 years. Each time I cheat, a flare begins. Each time I go back on SCD, flare subsides. It's like clockwork, for me at least. Of course I know this isn't true for all.
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Coffeemate
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Posted 1/24/2021 2:35 PM (GMT -6)
Brucen...well said.
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TroubledTurds
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Posted 1/25/2021 1:17 PM (GMT -6)
what i eat, or more importantly, don't eat, unequivocally dictates the happiness of my colon -

no meds in 10+ years -

ymmv -

TT
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Jane974
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Posted 1/25/2021 2:00 PM (GMT -6)
Troubled turds, did you have a mild case of pancolitis at diagnosis? I have pancolitis and had years without meds as well in the past--those were the best years!
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UCinsouthfl
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Posted 1/25/2021 2:32 PM (GMT -6)
Thanks for your response! This is my dilemma.. When I first was diagnosed, I tried all these different diets, supplements, etc.. only to come to the conclusion that not much really helped. After hearing from some of you, it has me thinking.

I guess maybe doing a food journal and really examining which foods are causing issues is the best starting point.

I'm curious if that is what most of you did to pin point, or was it by seeing a nutritionist? Maybe getting the allergy test to see what I'm allergic too. Checking levels to see what vitamins/minerals I'm low in.

Thanks Guys,
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TroubledTurds
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Posted 1/25/2021 4:17 PM (GMT -6)

Jane974 said...
Troubled turds, did you have a mild case of pancolitis at diagnosis? I have pancolitis and had years without meds as well in the past--those were the best years!

i honestly don't have a clue as to the severity - i have wondered, but haven't taken the time or made the effort to search for an answer - if you ask me, it wasn't mild ----- but then i was, and still am, a bit of a wuss -------


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TroubledTurds
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Posted 1/25/2021 4:29 PM (GMT -6)

UCinsouthfl said...
Thanks for your response! This is my dilemma.. When I first was diagnosed, I tried all these different diets, supplements, etc.. only to come to the conclusion that not much really helped. After hearing from some of you, it has me thinking.

I guess maybe doing a food journal and really examining which foods are causing issues is the best starting point.

I'm curious if that is what most of you did to pin point, or was it by seeing a nutritionist? Maybe getting the allergy test to see what I'm allergic too. Checking levels to see what vitamins/minerals I'm low in.

Thanks Guys,

prior to my diagnosis, i did have testing done (can't remember which one atm) that indicated grains as the biggest issue for my gut - mind you, these were intolerances, not allergies -

if i had chosen to make changes in my diet at that point, my future may have been a bit different - unfortunately, things got worse real fast and i wound up in the ER for a couple of hours and an appointment with a GI 3 days later -

did the mesalamine treatment + a few stints of prednisone with mixed results - finally decided it was time to up the drug ante or focus on my diet -

easy peasy ;-)

TT
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poopydoop
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Posted 1/25/2021 5:44 PM (GMT -6)
I'm not sure this is directly relevant for this thread but.... I had a phone consult with my GI this afternoon. He was explaining that there were different types of colitis, depending on where the inflammatory bodies are located, and this might be an explanation why one person responds to drug A but not drug B, while the other responds to B but not A. Along the same lines, i was thinking that might explain why some people can control their symptoms with diet and others can't....
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ambling
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Posted 1/25/2021 6:12 PM (GMT -6)
I'm sure brucen36 and troubled turds would agree that their cases are both unique.
Sometimes food intolerances are so extreme that they are actually as bad as, or worse, than symptoms of UC.
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brucen36
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Posted 1/25/2021 10:29 PM (GMT -6)
Yes, probably unique! Here's a story: about 5 years ago I wanted to get into an FMT study. When I was scoped to see if I had UC, it failed because my colon appeared "healthy". So, I purposed cheated on SCD, and then did a scope again, and sure enough the doctor detected inflammation and I got into the study. Unfortunately, FMT did little for me and I purposely didn't go back on SCD for the after-treatment scope because they would surely attribute the improvement to FMT, which wouldn't be true for my case. After that latter scope, I returned back to SCD and everything returned to normal. However, I have noticed though that over time as I age, the tolerance window to cheat is getting smaller, as is the food range.

So yeah, definitely unique, but probably everyone thinks that of their own case! smile
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Oligodar
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Posted 1/26/2021 5:37 AM (GMT -6)
Unfortunately, there is no solid evidence that food can cause/stop a flare.
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TroubledTurds
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Posted 1/26/2021 6:49 AM (GMT -6)

Oligodar said...
Unfortunately, there is no solid evidence that food can cause/stop a flare.

fortunately, i have solid evidence every time i poop ;-)

TT
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Oligodar
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Posted 1/26/2021 7:08 AM (GMT -6)

TroubledTurds said...

Oligodar said...
Unfortunately, there is no solid evidence that food can cause/stop a flare.

fortunately, i have solid evidence every time i poop ;-)

TT

If your poop is solid it does not necessarily mean that it is solid evidence smile
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D.Brasco
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Posted 1/27/2021 12:37 AM (GMT -6)
ladies and gents I feel like exercise and sleep helps more with getting in or out of a flare. At least with me, when I do not sleep enough, stay late, wake up late, and don't exercise, UC bothers me a lot more. What's your opinions and experiences related to sleep and exercise?
In terms of food, my experience has been that it does have a big effect on me when flaring. Some flares I have also blamed on my food, but then again who really knows. If a bad meal causes you a flare, that means you were already on the edge - if you eat something "bad" today you may feel the effects tomorrow, but the TRUE effects you will see them after a week, takes time for that inflammation to build up to the point you get cramps and see your poop gradually change for the worst.
I'm jamming a lot of things here, but I just started Florastor, looks like it's helping, I used to take VSL and Align, but they stopped working for me. Strange thing I found on Florastor is that it contains lactose, which I'm ok with but I know some of us cannot have lactose when flaring
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