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Oligodar
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Posted 4/21/2021 5:56 AM (GMT -8)
Hi, what do you think about this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galxpttd8iy
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quincy
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Posted 4/21/2021 10:11 AM (GMT -8)
LOL...what's more important is what YOU think of him.

There are vegans and vegetarians who have UC.

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poopydoop
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Posted 4/21/2021 11:28 AM (GMT -8)
Also plenty of meat eaters who don't have UC...
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momto2boys
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Posted 4/21/2021 1:44 PM (GMT -8)
I was eating an organic, WFPB vegan diet when I was diagnosed with UC, I don't think my diet could have been any cleaner but I still ended up with UC. I think diets work for some people, but not every diet works for everyone.
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VanJordan
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Posted 4/22/2021 2:56 AM (GMT -8)
Plant-based diet (80% veggies) is proven to be the best method for UC. Animal products should be carefully selected to be high nutrition, low saturated fat.

It all comes down to the individual's microbiome and what their overgrowths are. Usually meat eaters benefit from a meat break during the worst of flare because their proteobacteria and hydrogen sulfide producers are overgrown. Vegans usually flare because of nutrient deficiencies that compromise their bowel lining, leading to bleeding, which then feeds proteobacteria.
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DaisyZee
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Posted 4/22/2021 6:30 AM (GMT -8)
I just came through the worst flare since my diagnosis. The only foods that worked for me during the flare were animal proteins, sourdough bread, and the typical low fiber vegetables and fruits. Before the flare I was 80% plant-based just because I prefer to eat that way, not because I was trying to cure or aid my UC. Hopefully, I will be able to get back to eating more fibrous vegetables, but right now the animal proteins and thoroughly steamed vegetables work best. Just do what works for you and feels good for your body.
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TroubledTurds
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Posted 4/22/2021 7:23 AM (GMT -8)
exactly DZ !
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LeafsFan
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Posted 4/22/2021 9:16 AM (GMT -8)
Curious, if there's any evidence as to the TYPES of vegetables we should eat.
I mean it seems everything points to eating more plant based, but maybe the types and variety matter. I'm only learning about this stuff and haven't quite figured it out but I believe we should eat clean, and somewhat omnivorous, and whole real foods. But not meat heavy and certainly not processed foods.
I think understanding how to eat is sometimes more important than a fad diet. Example when eating plant based, are we eating ANY meat, what kinds. Are we eating starchy vegetables and fruits, enough soluble fibre or all leafy greens. Enough variety?

I don't know the answer but I'm happy that there is being research done in the area. We should never be afraid to make progress, even if not every lead is a cure or works for everyone depending on their circumstances.
Research is definitely pointing to lack of fiber in our diets and plant based eating but obviously some here have already said that doesn't help them. A bit discouraging I guess, but still happy to see research beyond only meds.
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Globetrotter
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Posted 4/22/2021 12:12 PM (GMT -8)
Year or so before I was diagnosed with UC, I noticed that whenever I ate animal protein, I had pain in my abdomen with mild diarrhoea afterwards. I ended up diagnosed with UC, but still continued eating meat, eggs for about a year. Eventually I ended in hospital with severe flare and became vegan afterwards. It's been 5 years now since I haven't tasted meat. This has helped me a lot, but it sure haven't cured my UC and I've still have had several smaller flareups including one right now.

Interestingly rest of my family are all opposite me, they basically exist/live on meat and eat very little vegetables. Yet they have no issues as most of the other people do. So what I want to say with that is – I do think that vegetarian diet can probably somewhat prevent getting UC in the first place or even relieve UC symptoms for some of us, but it's not a panace and is definitely not a cure.

All autoimmune diseases (and UC is not an exception) are caused by multitude of factors combined – environmental, genetic, dietary, neural (stress) etc. In my case it was a combination of bad dietary habits, lots of stress, bad sleep habits and unlucky food poisoning that eventually finally set my UC off. However I know some other people who live on extremely bad western diets for years and yet they have no issues with their digestion whatsoever. So I think it's 60% genetics/stress/lifestyle, 30% diet and 10% bad luck.

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VanJordan
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Posted 4/23/2021 5:01 AM (GMT -8)
Only genetic level microbiome testing can tell you what your gut flora ratios are, and then you can use that info to modify your diet. Otherwise it's a shot in the dark and it's why a lot of UCers have given up thinking that diet alone can put them in remission.

The one thing all UCers must focus on is consuming things that enhance the populations of short chain fatty acid producers in the bowel. These produce butyrate which feeds the colonocytes, which are the cells of the bowel wall. UCers all have one thing in common, which is that they have low butyrate producers, and high lipopolysaccharide bacteria (like e. coli, bilophila, etc.). The bacteria with high LPS release that from their cell walls when they die, and then it causes leaky gut and bowel inflammation. Then the immune system moves in to attack, causing more damage, bleeding, and then the LPS bacteria feed on the blood and tissue, creating more of themselves.

So far they have discovered that the following gut flora produce butyrate, and tend to be low in UC patients:
- anything from the firmicutes phylum
- faecalibacterium
- ruminococcaceae,
- eubacterium rectale
- roseburia spp
- clostridium butyricum

There are others but I don't remember them right now. You can't take probiotics to get these, even if you could. You need to eat the foods and prebiotics that feed them while avoiding the foods that feed their harmful competitors:

Partally hydrogenated guar gum (PHGG)
Psyllium seed powder (not husk, but seed)
Colourful foods high in polyphenols: grape skins (grape seed extract can help), blueberries, bilberries, small amounts of red wine (low sulphite if possible or no alcohol red wine)
Apple pectin
Brown rice
Chickpea or brown lentil

There are others. The PHGG is awesome. It doesn't get rid of my flares outright but if I take it twice a day, my bleeding reduces a lot within days, and my transit time slows down.

about the western diet... yes, it is generally very deficient in butyrate supporting prebiotics. Some of the researchers I know who are looking at infectious causes of IBD (especially Crohn's) believe that food contamination with resistant organisms is also a major problem. Most of the foods the average westerner eats feeds dysbiosis, and if the foods contain antibiotics or destructive chemicals, then the biome suffers further.
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