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Stress & Flares: An Epiphany

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DavidEA
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Posted 4/11/2022 7:31 AM (GMT -8)
Hey there,

I've decided, based solely on my own experience with flares: stress is HIGHLY correlated with flares. Is it the CAUSE of our flares? Is it the CAUSE of IBD? Well, doctors like to tell us our "overactive immune system" due to "invading virus or bacterium," "genetics," "environmental factors." Or that they don't really know or that it's all of these factors in one big combo pack. Well I can tell you, every flare I've had since I was diagnosed in 2006 started around a very stressful time. My first flare, when I had no idea what was going on, started around when I was telling my friends and family I was gay. Talk about STRESS! Then every single subsequent flare I can pinpoint the above average stress I was enduring.

"What does this all even mean," you ask? "This is your own experience, you are NOT a doctor," and "We've heard this all before." Well, all of that is very true. But what I am suddenly realizing, like poof!, is that GI's don't give a crap about stress. At least mine don't. They don't talk about stress, they don't talk about diet. I BEG them to listen to me talk about how my flares happen around stressful times and what do they say? "Well reducing stress is good for your overall health," and then look at their watches: "Oops! Well would ya look at the time?!" And then just increase my prednisone, they double my injections, they put less time between infusions. How BORING!

When is GI going to listen and say yes, we believe stress (and likely diet but that's a different post altogether) is an enormous contributing factor to your flares (and to many people's flares) so while we have you on this X injection or Y infusion or Z pills, we also want to spend the other HALF of our energy teaching you and your body to metabolize stress in a healthy way. This way, we can seek to INCREASE the time between your flares and INCREASE your length of remission. They likely won't say this. They are not trained in this way. They have too many patients and cannot spend too much time LISTENING to one (me) complain about stress: "That's the job of a therapist but oh wait, your insurance doesn't cover mental health." LOL.

So what's the plan here? What's the plan for me and for many (not all) who realize that we have trouble processing anxiety and stress through the complicated and nuanced systems of our minds and bodies and it screams at our colons to ulcerate? I'm still figuring it out. I know I can't rely gastroenterology for that part, that's for sure. Is it functional medicine? Is it a psychiatrist who specializes in IBD? Does that even exist? When will the clinical guidance of the AGA include a HUGE section on talking to patients about stress: "Do you find yourself stressed around the start of flares? Well you must then be this type of IBD patient and boy do we have a plan for you! <3 <3 <3"

Is that just a dream? Do I sound stressed? Should I just inject my belly and stop talking?
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Rusty Barr
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Posted 4/11/2022 8:23 AM (GMT -8)
I was diagnosed with UC in early 2016 because of a major life event that caused a lot of stress for a long period of time.
I’ll always believe this.

Through almost all of 2015 I was in a miserable state of mind. Heartbroken.

Post Edited (Rusty Barr) : 4/11/2022 10:28:23 AM (GMT-6)

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GrittyHope
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Posted 4/11/2022 8:34 AM (GMT -8)
In 11 years of this, my flares have always correlated with major stress (well, and occasionally with other illness/antibiotics, situations that bring their own stress). My GI sort of nods along but doesn't have time to process the stress with me (nor does he believe diet or probiotics make a difference).

Things I've found helpful: gentle exercise (walking and very low key yoga); talk therapy and tapping (which seems like NONSENSE but has some research to back it up); physical therapy/massage for other body pain that causes tension in my body overall; acupuncture for inflammation and stress.

The hard part is that doctors who say "manage your stress" sometimes make me feel like it's all my fault. I can't help external stressors: I have a demanding job, young kids, am far from family, living during a long pandemic in a strained public healthcare system that makes it hard to access primary care, etc. So I put some of my energy into working toward advocating for bigger systemic changes, too.

But yes, I think stress plays a HUGE role, and yes, so much of the management of stress (including seeking and paying for stress-relieving paramedical services) falls onto us as individuals.
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HaleyA
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Posted 4/11/2022 8:34 AM (GMT -8)
My doctor talks about stress all the time with me and how it can induce symptoms and she says she believes it’s the cause of all my flare ups, I agree with her haha
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Ms2011
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Posted 4/11/2022 8:38 AM (GMT -8)
My trigger is stress for sure, in fact my GI has joked that she absolutely forbids me from being stressed 🙃
She doesn't believe in food being a trigger though and for me this is also true, food makes not difference to me, good or bad.
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Seeker275
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Posted 4/11/2022 9:01 AM (GMT -8)
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Yes. Stress and a bad diet are huge factors for me. There are lots of things you can do even if your GI won’t mention it or chalk out a plan for you. Yoga, meditation, Tai Chi are a few . Try exploring other activities that help to restore your nervous system. Sound therapy and music can support you through anxiety. Hypnotherapy is useful. So are essential oils. Get yourself far away from toxic people and situations. I think a functional doctor mainly helps with diet and supplements but they would advise self care like meditation and massages too. Epsom salt soaks are fabulous too if you have a bathtub. Keep looking for things that make you feel uplifted and especially watch your diet in stressful situations because that is when you tend to be too tired mentally to think clearly and will typically resort to eating junk to feel comforted. Maybe look for a holistic practitioner to help with lifestyle changes . This disease definitely affects the mind and one’s ability to cope through stress so it takes some work on one’s part to counter this.
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VanJordan
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Posted 4/11/2022 9:41 AM (GMT -8)
Stress increases metabolic oxidation in the body, which leads to excess hydrogen peroxide release into the colon wall, which is likely the root cause of UC.
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Michelejc
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Posted 4/11/2022 10:10 AM (GMT -8)
Stress gives you Colitis, etc.....and while flaring, certain foods agrevate it.
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poopydoop
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Posted 4/11/2022 11:17 AM (GMT -8)
stress might trigger or exacerbate a flare but it's not the reason you have UC... otherwise everyone on the planet would have UC

most health conditions are made worse by stress
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Sassysback
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Posted 4/11/2022 11:34 AM (GMT -8)
Totally agree....stress is a huge factor for me. In fact I'm extremely stressed today as it's the day before my colonoscopy. I've had a pain on my right side close to the hip bone and radiating to my back for 2 days.

And this past 2 years have been the worst, most stressful, time in my life, not only because of the pandemic. Sò I've flared more then I have these last 2 years than I did in the past 20.
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Old Mike
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Posted 4/11/2022 2:04 PM (GMT -8)
Here are some factors.
oldmike
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc6821654/#:~:text=chronic%20stress%20can%20cause%20excessive,production%20of%20poisons%20(87).
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Andreita
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Posted 4/13/2022 6:00 PM (GMT -8)
I was bullied and tortured in school. As soon as it all ended my flare started
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madampoopsalot
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Posted 4/14/2022 8:10 AM (GMT -8)
I don't know if stress causes IBD, but I know it causes my flares.
GI docs should start with a prescription for therapy or at least mindfulness...

That's it. I'm starting a 30-day mindfulness challenge today. For real this time!
(I've been starting "tomorrow" for 2 weeks. HA)
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Sara14
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Posted 4/14/2022 6:12 PM (GMT -8)
They've never seemed to cause flares for me, except maybe when I first got UC back in 2007.
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poopydoop
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Posted 4/14/2022 11:33 PM (GMT -8)
You cannot go through life without stress.

Everyone has stress in their lives but not everyone gets IBD.

You can always learn techniques to better manage stress but never eliminate it completely (and if you did you'd probably get stressed from the lack of stress).

And then if you did eliminate it you could still flare from food poisoning, antibiotics, etc.

I was practising yoga 5-6 times a week when I got IBD. Lots of illness blaming and shaming in that community too.

Life is exhausting (and stressful) when you are constantly analysing or avoiding doing X Y Z for fear of a flare.

Just live your life.

Post Edited (poopydoop) : 4/15/2022 1:40:22 AM (GMT-6)

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damo123
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Posted 4/15/2022 12:19 AM (GMT -8)
Different people will react differently to stress. The implication should not be that "we are all under stress" and therefore "if it does not affect me then it should not affect you". It will all affect us in unique ways. I would hope that we are not so blinded to modern medicine that we cannot be open to this opinion. If you feel that stress has a direct effect on your condition then absolutely you should tackle this.

There is no single 'ulcerative colitis'. There are ulcerative colitises (note plural). What we see are the end result of a process that falls under the umbrella term of UC. But all of us will have gotten to that symptom spot in a different way...different genes, different triggers, different cytokines., etc.....different bodies and different minds even. Rectal meds will work for some but not for all, Remicade will work for some but not for all, Yoga will work for some but not for all. In the 1970s TMJ disorder was recognized as a single entity. Nowadays with imaging it is known that TMJ falls under 70 different categories depending on which part of the jaw joint and jaw muscles are affected.

You have to channel and express your feelings and let go of these. You have to learn to say no in life and to know when enough is enough. If you do not do these things consciously for yourself, and to paraphrase Gabor Mate, the body will uncomprimizingly say No for you.

Ignore comments that stress has nothing to do with UC and that "if it did then everyone else would have it". Other people know nothing about your own situation, your life, and your body. At most have sympathy for people who need to make such arguments. Find and explore what works best for you.

Post Edited (damo123) : 4/15/2022 2:25:08 AM (GMT-6)

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kyle_dn
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Posted 4/15/2022 12:32 AM (GMT -8)
damo123, that is an outstanding argument and reply on the matter. Thanks for posting this.
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Seeker275
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Posted 4/15/2022 11:27 PM (GMT -8)

damo123 said...
Different people will react differently to stress. The implication should not be that "we are all under stress" and therefore "if it does not affect me then it should not affect you". It will all affect us in unique ways. I would hope that we are not so blinded to modern medicine that we cannot be open to this opinion. If you feel that stress has a direct effect on your condition then absolutely you should tackle this.

There is no single 'ulcerative colitis'. There are ulcerative colitises (note plural). What we see are the end result of a process that falls under the umbrella term of UC. But all of us will have gotten to that symptom spot in a different way...different genes, different triggers, different cytokines., etc.....different bodies and different minds even. Rectal meds will work for some but not for all, Remicade will work for some but not for all, Yoga will work for some but not for all. In the 1970s TMJ disorder was recognized as a single entity. Nowadays with imaging it is known that TMJ falls under 70 different categories depending on which part of the jaw joint and jaw muscles are affected.

You have to channel and express your feelings and let go of these. You have to learn to say no in life and to know when enough is enough. If you do not do these things consciously for yourself, and to paraphrase Gabor Mate, the body will uncomprimizingly say No for you.

Ignore comments that stress has nothing to do with UC and that "if it did then everyone else would have it". Other people know nothing about your own situation, your life, and your body. At most have sympathy for people who need to make such arguments. Find and explore what works best for you.


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poopydoop
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Posted 4/16/2022 12:11 AM (GMT -8)
I NEVER said stress has nothing to do with UC.

Stop putting a spin on my posts that isn't there.

I said that stress does not CAUSE UC otherwise everyone on the planet would have UC.

I said you can learn techniques to manage stress but never eliminate it.

Do you think refugees/war victims/etc will feel fine if they just learn to manage stress?

Are you supposed to feel nothing if someone you care about is sick or in danger?

It's allowed to have feelings and it doesn't help to blame yourself (or others) for feeling natural responses to stressors.
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Sara14
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Posted 4/18/2022 7:54 AM (GMT -8)

poopydoop said...
I NEVER said stress has nothing to do with UC.

Stop putting a spin on my posts that isn't there.

I said that stress does not CAUSE UC otherwise everyone on the planet would have UC.

I said you can learn techniques to manage stress but never eliminate it.

Do you think refugees/war victims/etc will feel fine if they just learn to manage stress?

Are you supposed to feel nothing if someone you care about is sick or in danger?

It's allowed to have feelings and it doesn't help to blame yourself (or others) for feeling natural responses to stressors.

Agreed.
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