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Cg87
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Posted 11/4/2022 6:33 PM (GMT -8)
Hello all,

I had a CT scan due to on and off left side abdominal pain for a few months now. I got the results sent to my online chart a few hours after the scan today but my doc hasn’t called to let me know what they mean. Anyone have thoughts on this scan result?

Impression
1. Nonspecific diffusely thickened appearance of the colonic
wall could be secondary to underdistention given the lack of
adjacent inflammation. However other etiologies including a
mild nonspecific colitis cannot be excluded. Correlate with
history of generalized abdominal pain.
2. Bladder wall thickening can be due to underdistention,
reactive change or potentially cystitis.
3. A 9 mm low-density lesion right kidney favors a mildly
complicated cyst. Ultrasound follow-up can be performed.
4. Please refer above.
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Posted 11/4/2022 10:49 PM (GMT -8)
I read your other posts to get some background.

Who ordered the CT scan? Was it primary care doc or GI? Was it with oral contrast (drinking a lot of a liquid before getting in the machine)? Was it with any IV contrast (given through IV during the procedure)?

Have you had any stool testing done? Have you had blood tests done? Did they include CRP or ESR in your blood tests?

If you haven't already, the next things you should do would be the CRP blood test and a stool test for what is called fecal calprotectin.

You should also get a referral to a GI and set up an appointment for a colonoscopy. And, given your other posts about reflux/upper GI symptoms, you should probably get an upper endoscopy too (they can do them at the same time - I've had a few at the same time). They sedate you for the scopes, so that part is super easy. The hard part is drinking the prep the night before and spending half the night on the toilet.

This doesn't look like UC to me, but there's a chance it could be Crohn's.disease. There's also a chance it's neither one, or nothing at all. But since the CT scan shows something a little abnormal, further testing is warranted.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/5/2022 1:53 AM (GMT -8)
Hello and thanks for the reply.

This was ordered by a GI doc and was an IV contrast (no oral contrast). In the past I have had blood tests and both stool and breath tests for H Pylori. All these came back normal.

My GI said he would do endoscopy if CT Scan wasn’t conclusive, so not sure his thoughts in that yet.

I am basically terrified of both scope procedures. I asked to be out completely under if I had to do them and he seemed to think that was ok. I know you said sedated, were you out completely under or fully awake for your scopes?
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Posted 11/5/2022 2:13 AM (GMT -8)
Did your blood tests include CRP (C reactive protein)?

Did your stool tests include fecal calprotectin?

Those should be done.

Frankly, the CT scan would have been much better if they had included oral contrast. But it's possible that the facility where you had your scan doesn't have that capability. The oral contrast helps get better images of the small bowel and the bowel walls. The results from your CT scan are not at all conclusive, but they show that there *could* be some inflammation in the wall of a segment of your colon. A colonoscopy will allow a better view and will allow the doc to take biopsies, which are key to figuring out what if anything is really going on.

There's nothing to be terrified of with the scopes. You'll be totally out in a matter of seconds, and then you'll wake up 20 or 30 minutes later with no memory of it. I've had about six or seven colonoscopies and six or seven upper endoscopies. I've done some with what they call "twilight sedation" and I've had some done with propofol (a stronger sedation). Both put me out in seconds and both ways worked fine.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/5/2022 12:03 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for that. My GI doc has notes saying I would be under MAC sedation, which as far as I can tell is the heavier stuff.
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Posted 11/5/2022 7:15 PM (GMT -8)
I think there’s a good chance there’s nothing wrong with you. That radiologist could not have written a more vague, nonspecific interpretation of a film.

The prep for the colonoscopy is no fun. Drinking that stuff is a hassle causing lots of pooping and can interfere with a normal night’s sleep.

That said, the drugs you’re scheduled for are Heavenly. That’s the bright side.

Good luck

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On Humira
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island time
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Posted 11/5/2022 7:18 PM (GMT -8)
P.S. I’ve had left-sided pain for 15 years. UC for a year.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/5/2022 8:11 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for the reply!

What have you done to decrease your pain?
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island time
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Posted 11/5/2022 9:19 PM (GMT -8)
The same thing you’re doing. Tests and doctors’ visits. It’s concerning when our bodies have pain but many times there’s nothing that can be found as to the cause. I’ve had several tests over the years. CT’s. Ultrasounds. MRI’s.

Eventually I chalked it up to “muscular skeletal”. Even a rib slightly out of kilter can cause side pain Cg and it not show up on imaging. My pain has always waxed and waned. When it’s at it’s worst, it can be difficult to believe there is nothing seriously wrong.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/5/2022 10:14 PM (GMT -8)
Ok, appreciate the input. I guess I’ll keep plugging away at these tests. I do feel mine is digestion related since I can take pepto or Pepcid and they normally relieve the pain temporarily. I’ll see what the docs thoughts are this week I suppose.
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Posted 11/5/2022 11:07 PM (GMT -8)

island time said...
I think there’s a good chance there’s nothing wrong with you. That radiologist could not have written a more vague, nonspecific interpretation of a film.

Without oral contrast, the CT scan doesn't get good images of the bowel walls.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/6/2022 11:05 AM (GMT -8)
Beave,

Obviously I worry about the worst outcome, would IV contrast allow them to see tumors or at least rule out the worst (stomach/bowel cancer)?
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Posted 11/6/2022 11:25 AM (GMT -8)
As Beave pointed out in his 2nd reply, a colonoscopy with biopsies is the best way to determine if you have something going on or not. The biopsy report is what the drs rely on to make a determination. IV contrast will not show stomach or bowel cancer.

We understand you are upset, but get testing done & don't be afraid to ask your questions.
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MajorRad
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Posted 11/6/2022 6:02 PM (GMT -8)
I happen to a radiologist, and therefore quite familiar enough with CT scans. For what its worth, IV contrast can get a great look at the bowel mucosa, and iodinated oral contrast is actually not needed. In fact many centers are giving patients a liter of water to drink before the scan because this has been found to provide enough distention of the small and large bowel to see what is going on with the mucosa and surrounding tissues (that being said, if one is looking for a bowel leak after surgery or something like that, then that is another story).

Regarding the results you mentioned (without seeing the images myself) there is nothing in there that would concern me too much if it were my scan. So I have to agree with island time about that not being the most helpful report and straydog regarding endoscopy/ colonoscopy.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/6/2022 6:22 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for the reply Major!

That’s good that there is nothing of concern in the report. Do you think it’s more of a lazy read, bad scan, or more likely they saw nothing even with a good scan.

Can CT rule out bowel cancer?
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MajorRad
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Posted 11/6/2022 7:06 PM (GMT -8)
I would not say lazy. Sometimes there is things we see and we can’t be quite sure so we give differential diagnosis (multiple things it could be) or a suggestion and expect the ordering doctor to use the clinical context to decide if it means anything.

Regarding bowel cancer, the short answer is no. Sometimes they get big enough to see or big enough to cause an obstruction (or other compilation). But just because a CT says normal does not mean a small cancer in the stomach, small bowel, large bowel is hiding.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/7/2022 9:01 AM (GMT -8)
So my doctor called back and said he is ordering a first available colonoscopy and endoscopy...

Is that bad? I feel like urgency in the medical field is always a bad sign.
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straydog
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Posted 11/7/2022 9:40 AM (GMT -8)
No, this is not bad at all, the dr is doing his job. Depending on where you live it can take many weeks to get scopes scheduled.

Be thankful you have a good dr in your corner. In the meantime, try to lower your stress level.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/7/2022 4:09 PM (GMT -8)
Ok, thanks for the help all. I’ll post back after my tests and let you know the results if you are interested.

And yes, I need to reduce my anxiety. It’s been a lifelong battle. But this anxiety may actually kill me lol.
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beave
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Posted 11/7/2022 6:48 PM (GMT -8)
Yep, agree with straydog - that's a good thing that your doctor is so responsive. Good luck with the procedures and definitely let us know how it goes.
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Posted 11/10/2022 1:04 PM (GMT -8)
You'll be completely out and not remember anything with MAC sedation. Keep us posted.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/13/2022 8:15 PM (GMT -8)
Guys, idk if I can go through with endoscopy. I just don’t think I’ll make it through the procedure.
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Sara14
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Posted 11/13/2022 8:27 PM (GMT -8)
Are you sedated for endoscopy or just colonoscopy? You can ask for an anxiety med like Xanax or Valium for anxiety to take prior to even arriving or right when you arrive. What are you most anxious about it?

I've had like 10 scopes and have never remembered a single thing. You get sedated right when they roll you into the procedure room and are out in seconds. I have severe anxiety around a number of things in my life, so I'm happy to help if I can.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/13/2022 8:33 PM (GMT -8)
I told the doctor I needed to be put out to even consider doing the procedure. He said ok he would do MAC sedation. However, when the nurse called me to schedule, she tried to schedule “twilight” sedation and said it would be fine. I insisted on MAC so it sounds like that’s what I’m scheduled for. But it still sounds like I am awake for the procedure and will still need to “swallow” the camera? I just don’t think I’ll be able to do it. I was a nervous wreck before a CT scan, where you literally lay on a table. It’s the easiest thing in the world and I have done it before so I even knew what to expect and was still sitting there sweating.
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Sara14
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Posted 11/13/2022 8:37 PM (GMT -8)
Sometimes they use the word twilight and MAC interchangeably. I've had both (multiple different drugs for different scopes) and I never remembered a single thing. I've never had an endoscopy so not sure about that but you can ask them for more details so you know exactly what to expect. I recommend asking for a benzo beforehand like Xanax. It'll make it much easier. You can do it. You can be an anxious wreck and still do it.

I also recommend looking up DBT paced breathing and practicing it prior. Breathing exercises or things like imaging yourself in a peaceful, calm setting, or counting back from 100 by 7 can all help. Practice beforehand.
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