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Cg87
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Posted 11/13/2022 8:43 PM (GMT -8)
No joke I once slapped the hand of my doctor out of my mouth when getting a strep test. It was purely instinctual, happened before I even knew what I was doing. There is no way I can do an endoscopy.
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Sara14
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Posted 11/13/2022 9:03 PM (GMT -8)
Lol. Well, it's your choice. But then you'll have to live with the daily anxiety of not knowing what's going on and deal with your symptoms of course.
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beave
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Posted 11/13/2022 11:06 PM (GMT -8)
MAC just means Monitored Anesthesia Care. It means you'll be sedated and there will be monitoring of your vitals all the while. Twilight sedation is a form of MAC, ie, a form of anesthesia.

You won't have to "swallow" the camera. They will put a bite guard in your mouth to keep you from biting down on the probe and breaking it or breaking a tooth. They'll put that in right before administering the sedation. Then you'll be out like a light bulb until you wake up with everything finished.
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quincy
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Posted 11/14/2022 12:33 AM (GMT -8)
Ditto beave...I've had 3 upper scopes. They give you a spray to swallow and then put a bite guard in your mouth for the scope to go through. Meds were administered, and I was out in an instant.

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FlowersGal
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Posted 11/15/2022 9:27 AM (GMT -8)
I’ve had several different types of sedation also. One I’m sure was referred to as twilight. It still put me out. I’m a big baby about this too — or I used to be anyway. I’ve had so many now that I kind of look forward to drifting off. But I remember being nervous as heck when they were about to shoot the medication in (you’ll already have an IV and they’ll use a syringe to inject the medication into your line. I can taste/smell it, sometimes with a little sting. I remember almost panicking—- and then I drifted off. And never felt a thing or anymore fear until they woke me up.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/21/2022 10:16 PM (GMT -8)
So just my luck. I had my colonoscopy and endoscopy scheduled for tomorrow. Got halfway through Prep today, fasted til 4pm and got a call from my doc saying my health insurance hasn’t approved the procedure yet so they are canceling and rescheduling.

Needless to say I called my health insurance to tell them how I felt about then dragging their feet. Which I am convinced is because I have hit my out pocket maximums and Jan 1st is a couple weeks away.

Absolute crooks
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Sara14
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Posted 11/21/2022 11:38 PM (GMT -8)
Wow! That REALLY sucks. I'm glad you were going to go through with it though!

I once drank an entire prep in the hospital and my GI came in in the morning and told me I have c diff, no scope. I wasn't happy.
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FlowersGal
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Posted 11/22/2022 10:33 AM (GMT -8)
Glad you called the insurance! Also the dr office should have let you know sooner! You might have been able to get the insurance moving fast enough to not have to reschedule. Hope your prep wasnt expensive because you’ll have to buy more now.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/22/2022 10:39 AM (GMT -8)
I feel my insurance company should have let me know. I’m literally being held hostage by my insurance company. If my doctor wouldn’t have called me I would have just been billed $6K if my claim was denied, without a peep from my insurance company. I called and let my displeasure be known.
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CCinPA
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Posted 11/22/2022 11:56 AM (GMT -8)
Did insurance give a reason it was denied? Scopes are a way of life with IBD. This is the first time I have heard anyone talk about insurance denying this procedure.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/22/2022 12:13 PM (GMT -8)
They didn’t officially deny. But they are taking weeks to approve. Since my procedure was for today I wasn’t risking denial and a $6,500 bill. Their reasoning was because I haven’t been treated with acid blockers yet so it needed additional review and additional approvals. Apparently, they would rather put bandaids on my symptoms with drugs instead of allowing me to figure out why I am having symptoms in the first place.

Like I said, I am confident they are stalling until my deductibles start over in a few weeks.
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CCinPA
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Posted 11/22/2022 5:27 PM (GMT -8)
That's a new one. Acid blockers for colitis lol You are probably right. If this is work insurance you don't have any choice, but if this is your own plan then you are still in open enrollment right now so you could sign up with a new plan that has a lower deductible for next year ;)
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Sara14
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Posted 11/23/2022 1:39 PM (GMT -8)
It is really odd. However, I don't think they would stall until deductible starts over. Tons of people get expensive procedures done on purpose before the end of the year.
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FlowersGal
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Posted 11/24/2022 10:39 AM (GMT -8)
I would call them every day and threaten anything you can if they don’t quit stalling. You should have some kind of resource like an insurance commissioner in your state. Not that they really do much but I’ll bet the insurance wouldn’t like a complaint filed.
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Cg87
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Posted 11/25/2022 9:03 AM (GMT -8)
Well my insurance company officially denied my procedure today. What can I even do here? I’m being held hostage by them. Can’t get diagnosed.
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CCinPA
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Posted 11/25/2022 12:57 PM (GMT -8)
Exactly what reason did they give? Are you in the U.S.? This is the first time I have ever heard of scopes needed to properly diagnose someone being denied. What reason did your GI give for needing the scopes? I would contact him and find out.

What are your current symptoms?

I am sorry you are dealing with this.
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FlowersGal
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Posted 11/26/2022 9:29 AM (GMT -8)
Call your dr. They can file an appeal. But while they do that do some investigation to see if there’s a way to force them to not stall because it sure seems like that’s what they’re doing. Did there use to be a clause in policies that allowed you to rollover a deductible in cases like this? I thought I recalled that there used to be— but that was years ago. You could call an independent insurance agent and ask what your options are or speak to your HR department.
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Cg87
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Posted 12/6/2022 10:33 AM (GMT -8)
Well it looks like the insurance company successfully delayed my claim until next year, and now I’ll likely pay most of it out of pocket.

My dr appealed and they said they won’t consider approval again for 45 days after denial.
Cigna is my insurance.
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FlowersGal
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Posted 12/6/2022 4:33 PM (GMT -8)
Wow! Just wow! That doesn’t seem legal to me but I’d bet they have lotsa loopholes. Might not hurt to contact insurance commissioner or something like.
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straydog
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Posted 12/6/2022 6:31 PM (GMT -8)
This makes no sense at all. I would ask the drs office when the initial request for the scopes was submitted what reason did they give for the scope? Every procedure has a code, same with a medical term. If the drs office mentioned prior Gerd issues, that could be why you were told to take a PPI.

I would also want to know if they put it what was found on your Ct Scan.
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Cg87
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Posted 12/7/2022 7:29 PM (GMT -8)
It sounds like the doctor tried to get approval original because of my stomach pain and what was found on CT scan. The colonoscopy was approved but the endoscopy was not. The reason the insurance company gave is because I was not treated with PPI for 30 days. So my doctor tried resubmitting with heartburn as a symptom (which I originally had anyway, but don’t anymore) but the insurance company said they won’t review until 45 days passed from original denial. I am going to have my colonoscopy on the 20th and maybe I’ll get lucky and the reason for my stomach pain is found with just that test.

But my doctor is pretty upset at the insurance company and was even venting a little bit about it to me. Said they just don’t understand we may be dealing with 2 different problems. He wants to check my Colin because of CT scan calling out thickened bowel wall (he said that might be reason for stomach pain anyway) but wants to do the endoscopy to cover all bases because of the colonoscopy doesn’t identify reason for stomach pain he would have to do endoscopy next anyway.

Idk. Insurance companies are crooks and I should be well in my way to treatment already.
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FlowersGal
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Posted 12/8/2022 10:30 PM (GMT -8)
Frustrating! I’m glad you’re getting the colonoscopy anyway.

I once had to spend 2 extra days in the hospital because insurance was dragging their feet on approving my medication and my dr wouldn’t release me and send me home without it. So how stupid was that for them to pay for days in the hospital rather than medication?
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Cg87
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Posted 12/9/2022 10:32 AM (GMT -8)
Yeah that makes no sense. I’d like to think they are really trying to check doctors for doing unnecessary medications and procedures but I know it’s just about the bottom line dollars.
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Cg87
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Posted 12/20/2022 3:20 PM (GMT -8)
Well I had my colonoscopy. Looks like it went pretty well, which I am not sure is good or not as it doesn’t help me with my stomach pain problems. The only finding the doctor outlined was

1. No gross colitis seen except for edema seen throughout Colon. Biopsies taken.

So he said we would try with insurance company again if the biopsies didn’t give him any information. Hopefully they show some sort of allergy/infection or something so I can just start feeling better.
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