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KingMeezoid
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Posted 12/1/2022 11:47 AM (GMT -8)
Hello all,

I am a 2nd year medical student in Texas who tries to stay up to date on current Ulcerative Colitis research (Left-sided UC diagnosed 2017). I am currently in a flare and am failing entyvio.

There has been some recent research into the use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) in the treatment of hospitalized UC patients. The early data (albeit small trials) looks extremely promising. The results are statistically significant. I do tend to be an optimist, but I really think HBOT could be a potential game-changer in the treatment of UC someday. All of our current therapies rely on immunosuppression to promote mucosal healing. HBOT DIRECTLY stimulates mucosal healing through inducing colonic stem cells.

If you do a Google and PubMed search, you will see extremely positive case reports documenting the use of HBOT in ulcerative colitis.

Imagine a future where if you have a yearly flare, you just go into the chamber for 40 session and are good for a whole year?! I don’t think this therapy is a cure-all. The jury is still out on the long-term efficacy, but I think this therapy could be a DEPENDABLE therapy whenever a flare does arise. I think a lot of my mental anguish with UC comes with the not knowing if a therapy will work or not. And it takes some therapies 12 weeks until you can even assess if it is working!!

Dr. Parambir Dulai is leading the current research in this area. They are starting Phase III trials next year in hospitalized UC patients who are at risk for colectomy. This isn’t some fringe physician or anything. He works at Northwestern.

It seems the treatment protocol is 2.4 ATA for 2 hours daily for 40 treatments. It is a time commitment, but I think best case scenario, it is 80 hours for 325 days of remission (best case). Which I would gladly take. And If it works and I have another flare, I can just say “well, time to go in the chamber again!”

I typically am skeptical of facebook claims as well, but I tracked down a woman who said her 10 year old son was failing remicade and was facing a colectomy. I dont know why someone would take the time to respond to me and lie about her son responding to HBOT. She wasn’t selling me anything, and she seemed extremely honest and open about their experience. They tried HBOT for 2 months, and she reports he has been in remission for 4 years. Now I do believe that outcome is nothing short of a miracle, so I am not expecting that to be the commonplace outcome.

I know this may seem dubious, but I urge you all to do some research into this area. If it is something you have access to and can afford to try, why not give it a shot? It cannot hurt anything. It is very low risk. If you are hospitalized and a colectomy is being discussed, I especially urge you to bring this up to your physician, as this seems the main patient population this is being researched in. It is also being researched in pouchitis.

I luckily found a local physician who was open to me trying this therapy. I will keep you all updated on my results. My first session was yesterday. I am trying not to get my hopes up too high. I wish you all the best.
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IamCurious
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Posted 12/1/2022 2:15 PM (GMT -8)
I have heard that HBOT stimulates stem cell regeneration. I dunno. I looked into trying to get treated myself but each session costs a couple hundred dollars and my insurance refused to pay for it. I could not afford to continue out-of-pocket.
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waxmoth
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Posted 12/1/2022 2:24 PM (GMT -8)
It is unlikely to be a treatment option for the majority. It also seems to be a relatively short lived effect. In the first trial the outcomes were not very significantly different 12 months after end of treatment.

“The overall proportion of patients who required second-line therapy, either during the index hospitalization or during the 12-month follow-up, was similar between HBOT and sham-treated patients (HBOT 60% vs. sham 88%, p = 0.31).”

The results of the second trial were more positive but follow up was only to 3 months.

Reading around it it seems HBOT may work in part by its positive effect on aryl hydrocarbon receptors.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc6044055/

Qing Dai/indigo naturalis also has this effect and is widely available and affordable. Orally it can have side effects but compares very favourably to conventional therapy in this respect and in effectiveness. .
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KingMeezoid
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Posted 12/1/2022 4:17 PM (GMT -8)
Respectfully waxmoth, where are you getting those follow up numbers? Would love to read those articles. I tried Qing Dai and it did nothing for me
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waxmoth
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Posted 12/1/2022 5:04 PM (GMT -8)
From the two clinical trial reports. The quote is from the 2A trial - apologies, I should have provided the source.
https://www.scholars.northwestern.edu/en/publications/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy-is-well-tolerated-and-effective-for-ulc
The 2B trial refers to 3 month follow up. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/apt.15984
"Finally, we were able to follow patients out to 3 months after hospitalisation and observed a low 3-month re-hospitalisation and colectomy rate, and that none of the patients who responded to hyperbaric oxygen by study day 3 required re-hospitalisation or colectomy. The expected rate for re-hospitalisation at 3 months is approximately 26% in meta-analyses,15 and 30% for colectomy when looking at the CONSTRUCT trial.8 Therefore, our re-hospitalisation rate of 10% and colectomy rate of 30% in a cohort of patients refractory to multiple biologic and small molecule therapies prior to hospitalisation is clinically meaningful."
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KingMeezoid
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Posted 12/1/2022 5:17 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for the reply and the links! I still couldn’t find the quote about there being no difference at 12 months? I may be looking in wrong spot.

I do think a few things:

1. This study was shorter term and really just staving off colectomy. The subsequent protocol being used now is 40 sessions. So 8 weeks, 5 sessions per week. The upcoming phase III study is looking at the long term efficacy as well.

2. Again, I’m not saying that this is a long term fix, but there is so little long term efficacy data out there that there is really just anecdotes to go off of. But really, the studies at 40 sessions shows really high levels of healing. So even (best case) if it is something that can last for a year, I think that is huge. Like I said, it is the worst when a therapy fails and then you have to start the whole process over of trying a new medication to see if there is a response. This could someday function as a dependable therapy that could be initiated at the first signs of a flare. That is all conjecture though.

3. The patients in these studies are at the point where nothing is working and surgery is next. Oftentimes, these patients are too far gone for many rescue the repairs to work. It’ll be interesting to see how someone with a more moderate case who ISNT hospitalized responds. The same applies to real-world effectiveness in UC drugs versus the trial statistics. The trial stats are always less than real world effectiveness because many of those patients are out of therapies and more on the refractory and sever side.

Love this conversation and would love to know your thoughts.

I think what excited me the most is that thjs directly uprefulates healing as opposed to immunosuppression.
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waxmoth
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Posted 12/1/2022 5:59 PM (GMT -8)
The quote is from the full paper. HBOT looks like it could be useful for rescue of extreme cases in hospital but logistically it is unlikely to be available for 40 sessions to many with less severe disease. I also think no one therapy will be the answer but combinations addressing different aspects of the disease may be the best approach. Qing Dai also promotes mucosal healing through AhR/il22 (and possibly other mechanisms) but I think for any of these things to work well conditions have to be favourable.
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CCinPA
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Posted 12/2/2022 6:12 AM (GMT -8)
There was a member here who did a lot of these treatments. I don't think she had long lasting results. You could do a search here and see what pops up to see how well others did with this treatment,
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momto2boys
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Posted 12/2/2022 8:01 AM (GMT -8)
Cc, I was just about to post the same. I think UBTough was the person here who did these treatments. If I’m not mistaken it was in a Canadian hospital, also using IVIG therapy.
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KingMeezoid
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Posted 12/2/2022 9:40 AM (GMT -8)
Yes, waxmoth, I’ve done my research on Qing Dai. In fact, I ordered it from evinature to try. I didnt have any improvement. I was hopeful. Also, the capsules are not consistently filled with the same amount of QD. Some were only half-full. Such a waste.
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straydog
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Posted 12/2/2022 9:45 AM (GMT -8)
I remember UB Tough doing HBOT for fistulizing crohns disease. I can't remember if it healed the fistula completely or not, it was some time ago. I believe she is on Stelara & doing very well.
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KingMeezoid
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Posted 12/2/2022 9:50 AM (GMT -8)
Yeah I just looked up UB Tough. It seemed she used it for RVF. So not exactly the same, but thanks for the information! I will give it about a month of treatments then update you all how I am doing.
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waxmoth
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Posted 12/3/2022 8:25 AM (GMT -8)
Hope it works well for you. If it was available to me I would certainly try it as it seems very safe and beneficial on a number of fronts. I also think the reason sometimes for less promising results in clinical trials is that the focus is on the study treatment only. If it were combined with supporting interventions it might be more successful in the longer term.

There also seems to be possibilities for rectal ozone therapy in UC. If it is valid it would be a more accessible method.
https://bulletin.tomsk.ru/jour/article/view/4695?locale=en_us
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Old Hat
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Posted 12/3/2022 8:17 PM (GMT -8)
So, KingM., from what you've researched RE hospitalized UCers facing colectomy, HBOT could be an alternative to Cyclosporine therapy (?) Wishing you good luck with your own treatment! / Old Hat (40+ yrs with left-sided UC; in remission taking Colazal)
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CCinPA
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Posted 12/4/2022 1:11 PM (GMT -8)
Keep us posted on how you make out with this. If you don't mind -- tell us more about the treatments -- how long are they and what happens during a treatment? How far apart is each treatment spaced? One last question (if you don't mind sharing) how much does each treatment cost? I assume they aren't covered by insurance, correct?
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KingMeezoid
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Posted 12/4/2022 1:24 PM (GMT -8)
Old Hat, I am not sure if it’d be an equal alternative. Cyclosporine seems to work faster than HBOT. So I think if you’re at that point, I am not sure if you can afford to wait and see with HBOT.

But again, this is where the upcoming phase III trials come into play. What is time to response, long term efficacy, etc.

CCinPA,

1. Treatments are 2 hours total daily. I’ve been going at 2PM. It’s a massive time commitment, but I’m in a spot with school and my Christmas break that it is feasible. I go 5 days a week.

2. Not covered by insurance, unfortunately. Thankfully, the local place cut me a deal because I’m a medical student. It is 250/session. Not cheap at all. The doc took labs before I started for CRP and such. Going to reassess after 10 treatments. But I justify it like this:

The research is sound, it is my health at stake, and i really don’t have anything to lose at this point.

I’d rather look back in 10 years and be able to confidently say I tried something rather than wonder what if.
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CCinPA
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Posted 12/4/2022 1:30 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks, King. What exactly is the treatment? Do you just sit in a chamber like deep sea divers use?
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Hugo18
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Posted 12/5/2022 11:58 AM (GMT -8)
I did 35 sessions of HBOT a year and a half ago. I went 1.5hrs at 2.5pst. Not sure if it was the medications (stelera) or the HBOT that brought me out of my flare. There is an interesting research regarding the effectiveness of HBOT from an Egyptian physician recently. It is incredibly time consuming and not cheap. But if you have the time it is for sure worthwhile. In fact much research has been released about its anti aging capacity, so it can hurt to try it.
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