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Serenity Now
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Posted 1/30/2023 7:07 AM (GMT -8)
Clo, you mentioned taking Milk of Magnesia the week before your scope, to help with the clean-out prep. I have never used M of M, so I wanted to ask for the details on what you did. I googled it and it looks like they have pills as well as liquid. Which did you use, and how much? I am considering trying this, I can use all the help I can get.

Has anyone else done this?
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Posted 1/30/2023 3:58 PM (GMT -8)
I think the liquid is more effective. The pills are very chalky and you have to chew them (or they used to be anyway — maybe they have liquid capsules now?). I was given milk of magnesia a lot as a child and my grandfather used to keep a tin of chewable pills in his pocket all the time. I always assumed it was for indigestion.

I’ve never used it except as a laxative. When I had my colon surgery my bowels stopped working and they wouldn’t let me leave hospital until I pooped so they finally gave me a dose of MoM. It worked fairly quickly.
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Posted 1/30/2023 5:01 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks Flowers. If I try using it, I'll look for the liquid.
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Posted 1/30/2023 5:16 PM (GMT -8)
SN,

I switch over to "blended," food about a week before. MOM is 30 mL 2x daily. I use the liquid. It says it works within 6 hours.... It's much faster for me. So schedule before and after work times.

I tried taking it before my meals, then right after 7 at night. It worked but the 2x a day worked better for me. I take it middle of the night and right after work..

Clo

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Serenity Now
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Posted 1/31/2023 6:12 AM (GMT -8)
Thank you so much, Clo! I am going to try it.
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Posted 1/31/2023 6:30 AM (GMT -8)
I used the pills on the colonoscopy I had prior to my most recent one, and they worked great. Much easier on me than all that drinking of the prep fluid. This was with old GI. He said nothing afterwards that the pills didn’t work in cleaning me out.

Just had a colonoscopy recently with new GI. He said he didn’t want me taking the pills. Said he has had too many people show up, and they weren’t clean, and they had to reschedule. So, he said, he only approves the old style drink now.

I got nauseous the night before drinking it. I added sugar free crystal light to it. I started drinking it at 6 pm and not 8 pm as per the instructions. I didn’t puke, but I felt like I was going to, about halfway through the drinking.

I think the instructions said drink 8 ounces every 20 to 40 minutes? And I think what made me nauseous was I was wanting to get it over with, so I was drinking it at the shortest interval, per the instructions. Next time, I’ll drink it at the longest interval. Pretty sure that’s what got to me.
Lesson learned.
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Posted 1/31/2023 7:35 AM (GMT -8)
Oh no! I've never used just pills to do a scope clean out. I am planning to try the Milk of Magnesia in addition to the official scope prep.

I am not sure which prep you were drinking. I've had some that made me nauseous. The Citromag, in particular, made me throw up. Also one year I was supposed to also take Dulcolax in addition to Citromag or Pico Salax, and that made me throw up before and after the scope. In the morning before we left, in the car on the way there, and in the car on the way home. So much fun. I notice the prep instructions no longer include Dulcolax after that one time, maybe others reported vomiting too.

I am drinking Colyte this time. It's a huge amount to drink compared to the Citromag and I have to force it down. And you drink it over 2 hours! Twice! It's awful. But it didn't make me throw up and it worked last time so I am doing it this time.

They really need to come up with a better way. I was thinking the pills would be a better way, but if your GI says too many people are not properly cleaned out that way, then it's not for me.
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Posted 1/31/2023 8:10 AM (GMT -8)
I used Suprep, which was 6oz of solution at 5:00 p.m., followed by clear liquids, and then the same early the next morning.
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Posted 2/4/2023 8:09 AM (GMT -8)
I have a progress report on my Milk of Magnesia experiment. Clo wrote that after a bit of trial and error, she found taking 30 ml x2 daily worked best for her. I started taking it three days ago, easing into it by taking 15 ml at 8:00 am & 8:00 pm. Didn't seem to be doing much. So last night I took 30 ml. Wow, got results this morning.

During this flare my output is mostly mush & blood. When I do have solid stool, even the smallest chunk, it comes out with a struggle, left-sided discomfort or cramping and is accompanied by mush and much blood. This morning... I had a huge amount of solid stool, NO mush, and NO blood. No discomfort. Passed like a normal bowel movement.

First morning I have not seen blood in many weeks. I just had a second round of solid stool, NO mush and NO blood (visible anyway). Amazing. I don't really know what to make of this. We'll see what happens next.
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Posted 2/4/2023 8:41 AM (GMT -8)
My Gi has me use M of M for my scopes, but I have a jpouch. It’s effective for me.
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Posted 2/4/2023 9:02 AM (GMT -8)
Oh you actually use it for your scopes! That is reassuring to know. I feel like I am going rogue using this as pre-prep.
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Posted 2/4/2023 11:17 AM (GMT -8)
I drink a whole bottle the day before up to Midnight for a scope the next morning.

I’d have no problem fasting on coffee and broth for 2-4 days prior. I’ve never done it before for a scope, maybe I’ll try it next time.
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Posted 2/4/2023 12:12 PM (GMT -8)
Oh good for you, I wish I could fast that long on just liquids. That would make things so much easier. I get so weak and shaky and freezing cold. Brain fog... worse than normal! haha.
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Posted 2/4/2023 9:07 PM (GMT -8)
SN,

I have the same issue with the fasting..... That's why I will puree SCD chicken bone broth soup (that had a couple of potatoes thrown in .. I know it cheating but it helps me with the shakes and nausea) plus a pot of ham and white beans (cooked down to mushy then reconstitute with additional water and pureed to a thinner consistency but with a good taste) and plain vegetable soup (celery, onion, lots of carrots, potatoes, canned green beans in chicken stock). I stay away from red foods that week before.... I sip on those and also will eat SCD yogurt..... I also up my liquid intake to 115 to 120 ounces per day and take the MOM. 2x a day...3x if I am not seeing the results I need. (But I can only do that every other day as I end up getting nauseous). After a week I'm going mostly liquid. This is the only thing I've found that "cleans" me out as much as needed. My GI said that some people with IBD develop extra "sticky" mucus that traps debris along the colon wall... So a low residue diet plus the MOM before the prescription cleanse will help those patients.

It's a pain..... But I've found that the soups made with salt and a light sweet tea will keep my electrolytes in balance and I don't get as sick.

Please let me know how it goes.

Crossing my fingers for you!
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Posted 2/5/2023 8:04 AM (GMT -8)
That must be what happens with me, I have the extra sticky mucus. I know during the early part of my flare, I had to do a stool sample so I had to dig some of the stool away to put in the vial and it was covered in very sticky mucus.

Well today the mush and blood were back. Less blood than before, but maybe it will increase as the day goes on. So it was just a one-day reprieve.

Did you take the MOM right up until the start of the prescription cleanse? I will be drinking round 1 of the Colyte on Tuesday morning. Would you take the MOM on Monday night?
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Posted 2/5/2023 1:45 PM (GMT -8)
Serenity, the weakness, shaking, plus feeling freezing cold sounds like low blood sugar. So I would conclude that you need to keep replacing electrolytes somehow while purging pre-scope. On the past recommendation of Judy2 (Jujub), a retired RN, I tried using clear Pedialyte (an OTC in U.S.) in combo with my purging gook for most recent scopes, which definitely eliminated those annoying side effects; also, I never schedule c-scope during our cold season nor hot summers to avoid climate stress. Probably you'd have access to some balanced OTC electrolyte drink in BC; I followed Judy's recommend 'cause I didn't want to use a sports drink like Gatorade, due to added dyes, etc. *** Glad to read that MOM is helping you unexpectedly right now! / Old Hat (40+ yrs with left-sided UC; in remission taking Colazal)
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Posted 2/5/2023 2:00 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks OH. Yes I do focus on replacing electrolytes during the liquid diet/purge phase. I've used a variety of different things. I even tried Gatorade but just hated it, so never again! I have found some things I prefer now. I know they are out of balance when I get things like cramping in my feet or calves. But the cold and the shakes can happen even with replacing electrolytes so that can only do so much. I think just the reduction in calories, even with trying to drink enough calorie-containing liquids like fruit juices, full-sugar jello, etc. I don't think clear liquids can adequately replace solid food. Not for me at least.
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Posted 2/5/2023 3:54 PM (GMT -8)
SN,

I take MOM to the night before I start the cleansing prep.... Then the next morning start the cleansing prep.

I use zofran to ward off nausea during the clear liquids prep. I have not had to use the Pedialyte...The salty soup, sweet tea, and juices the night before seem to get me thru the 24 hours of the prescription cleanse. However I did sip a homade electrolyte drink during the prescriptions cleanse, and I did add extra salt to my broth and sugar to the weak tea when I started getting leg cramps the day of the prescription cleanse....

But I am a wimp. I have a horrible time with this stuff...cramps, sweating, feeling cold
..nausea and shaking... And that's before I even drink the devil's brew.... Lol... But seriously....

The salty soup, sweet tea and homemade electrolyte drink helped enough that I wasn't puking and I didn't end up in the hospital because my heart rate and blood pressure were going all over the place--which had happened the 4 times before. So it's just what my GI and I have pieced together that works on me.

I added the potatoes to the soups to help with the nausea and shaking and once everything is pureed together it seems to help. I've also used a couple of vanilla meal replacement shakes while doing the pureed soup.

I wish you the best of luck and really really hopes this helps you too. One of the ladies at my support group tried it and said it was "better" regarding the cramps, cold, shaking and nausea.... Not great but she didn't feel as bad as before. On the cleanse portion... She said her doctor knew she had done something different because things were easier to see.

Clo
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Posted 2/5/2023 4:01 PM (GMT -8)
Oh boy I would love that to be my result... Thanks for all your help and advice with this Clo!! I really appreciate it.
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Posted 2/6/2023 7:10 AM (GMT -8)
I’m another one that gets sickly with preps (although I do get well cleaned out). My go to drinks now include coconut water. It doesn’t taste that good although there is a pineapple flavored one that’s not too bad, but it does seem to really help. There’s a pale blue Gatorade that is about the only flavor I can tolerate so I use that too.

Good luck!
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Posted 2/6/2023 8:41 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Flowers! I tried coconut water and couldn't choke it down. sad And I love coconut! I think I tried a pineapple flavoured one once that was definitely better but still... I have found something that works for me for electrolyte replacement, so I am good on that front.
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Posted 2/10/2023 7:34 PM (GMT -8)
Serenity Now,

Thinking of you and hoping everything is going well.

Clo
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Posted 2/11/2023 8:17 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Clo! Thank you for thinking of me! Sorry I didn't get back sooner to report on my colonoscopy. I was too wrung out right after it, and the following day (Thursday) I felt sicker than I've ever felt. Yesterday was the total opposite, I felt so good and it was such a contrast that I went crazy with getting stuff done around the house that had been piling up for days, LOL. I promise I'll come back and give a proper report as soon as I can, but I'm on my way out the door right now...
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Posted 2/11/2023 4:49 PM (GMT -8)
Okay so first I'll comment on the bowel prep process. Thank goodness I pre-prepped with the MOM. If I hadn't, the 4L of Colyte would not have gotten me completely cleared out. As it was, it took me right up until the last moment to finally go clear. It was just awful, such a struggle to drink all of that stuff without throwing it up and then drinking all the clear liquids required to flush everything out.

At the beginning of the scope, I heard my GI tell the nurse how much sedation to use. Here we are not completely put under. It is termed "twilight sedation". Normally I stay awake and watch the scope travel through my bowel so I can see how cleaned out I am. Sometimes I am even alert enough to watch as she takes tissue samples and remove polyps. Usually I don't remember much but I do remember at least how cleaned out I am. This time? She must have ordered a lot more sedative, perhaps because I am flaring. I don't even remember the start when she first inserted the scope. I must have fallen asleep.

The next thing I recall is my GI standing beside me when it was over, telling me how it went. I've told her that I never remember anything she tells me at that point, when I still have the sedative in my system!!! The only thing I can recall her saying was something about maintaining current meds. So she did not prescribe steroids or anything.... Guess that means what she found wasn't that bad??? Guess I can also deduce she was able to complete the scope so I was cleared out enough.

I was wheeled back to recovery and promptly fell asleep again (which normally I never do). Woke up and a different nurse handed me the checklist form my GI had filled out. There was inflammation but no polyps - wow. I always have polyps. There is no followup appointment with my GI. This confuses me. She doesn't want to check how the flare goes? ARGH. Now I have to wait 4 weeks until she sends the report & biopsy results to my GP. And don't even suggest calling her office. I'll just be told to get the report from my GP in 4 weeks. Frustrating.
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Posted 2/11/2023 4:52 PM (GMT -8)
AND to add to the frustration: on my way home, I got a call from the Gastroenterology unit at the hospital. The stool sample they had taken for testing (c.diff and parasites/infection/whatever) had been put into the wrong vial so could not be used. They needed me to come back the next day to pick up a stool testing kit to collect a sample from home. So not only did I have to make the 2 hour round-trip again the next day (when I was feeling like death warmed over), I now have to somehow collect a stool sample during a flare when I don't have much warning when a bm is coming on. And who knows if it's just going to be mucus, or blood, or actual stool..... ARGGGH.
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