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Article: Not enough data to support multiple annual COVID boosters, U.S. CDC advisers say

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Sara14
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/not-enough-data-support-multiple-annual-covid-boosters-us-cdc-advisers-say-2023-02-24/

"There is not sufficient evidence to recommend more than one COVID-19 booster shot a year for older people and those with weakened immune systems, an expert advisory group to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Friday.

The COVID-19 working group of the CDC's Advisory Committee For Immunization Practices (ACIP) supported an annual booster campaign, likely in the fall, especially for populations considered at high risk, Dr. Sara Oliver, a CDC official who heads the group, said during a meeting of the agency's outside advisers."

Thought this may interest some of you.
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Posted 2/27/2023 4:41 AM (GMT -8)
Ha! I was just thinking about when a new booster would come out. It's been a while since I had the last one (the bivalent booster).

Thanks for posting this.
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Posted 2/27/2023 4:51 AM (GMT -8)
Wasn’t that always the prediction? It would be a once a year vaccine just like the flu and a possible combination vaccine of both in one shot.

Most of the population has some form of immunity now and we have better treatments. I’m currently on Paxlovid and it’s worked well for me so far.
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Posted 2/27/2023 5:55 AM (GMT -8)
The next generation of vaccines might be nasal vaccines against Covid and they are expected to be more effective against infection since most infections come through nasal passages.

And there will be more treatments against Covid virus infections.
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Posted 2/27/2023 7:04 AM (GMT -8)

ks1905 said...
Wasn’t that always the prediction? It would be a once a year vaccine just like the flu and a possible combination vaccine of both in one shot.

I don't know. Sorry if it's not news and everyone knew this already.
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Posted 2/27/2023 9:02 AM (GMT -8)

CCinPA said...
Ha! I was just thinking about when a new booster would come out. It's been a while since I had the last one (the bivalent booster).

Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome! I remember a lot of folks here were getting a lot of boosters so thought it might be helpful info.
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Posted 2/27/2023 9:16 AM (GMT -8)
I get pretty ill for 2-3 days after covid vaccines so just one a year would be good news for me! It probably depends on how far the virus mutates though.
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ks1905 said...
I’m currently on Paxlovid and it’s worked well for me so far.

Any idea how you got Covid? (Just curious. I am still very careful to avoid crowds and wear a KN95 mask wherever I go.)

Does Paxlovid have full approval yet? I worry that insurance won't cover it once all the government coverage ends (I think that's fairly soon)

Hope you recover quickly!
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Posted 2/27/2023 1:09 PM (GMT -8)
I don't wear masks anymore for quite some time now and I've been ok so far, knock on wood. I work from home though and avoid crowds just because I don't like people, lol. But I do run in CVS, the grocery store or gas station without a mask now and no one wears one when I volunteer at the humane society a few times a month either. The doctor's offices here have stopped requiring them as well. My boyfriend, also on Xeljanz, does work around people, unmasked, and he's been fine so far, too. All-in-all though, I'm around more cats than people these days, and I quite like it that way, lol.
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Posted 2/27/2023 1:50 PM (GMT -8)

Sara14 said...

I don't know. Sorry if it's not news and everyone knew this already.

Long term they are hoping to develop a more universal mRNA flu vaccine instead of just guessing at what strain of flu will become the dominant one or two strains of the flu.

Because of the Covid outbreak there has been some exciting treatments that will be coming to market over the next decade or so; and universal flu vaccines, other rMNA treatments for viruses like HIV, rMNA treatments for cancer, and other personalized treatments using rMNA to treat individual’s illnesses based on their DNA. I’ve heard that they might be able to develop the elusive vaccine for the common cold.
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Posted 2/27/2023 2:08 PM (GMT -8)
Wow, thanks for the info. A vaccine for the cold would be amazing.
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Posted 2/27/2023 3:29 PM (GMT -8)
Since I have several high risk factors I suspect I will always be wearing a mask when I am in public. Plus I like that I haven't had a cold or flu for years. Mostly I am not around a lot of people since I work from home and am not really a people person lol

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Posted 2/27/2023 3:41 PM (GMT -8)
Paxlovid is not readily available in many countries outside the US. Including mine. If i get covid I'm just supposed to deal with it. Luckily I've had 6 vaccines against it.
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Posted 2/27/2023 3:42 PM (GMT -8)
Also the headline on that article is silly. Annual means once a year.

(Thanks for sharing though Sara).
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Posted 2/27/2023 3:45 PM (GMT -8)
I have been unmasked for a while except on public transport. Apparently 2 years of isolation removed a lot of my immunity as I've had 4 colds in 5 months and a stomach flu. Prior to that i would get a cold once or twice a year...
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Posted 2/27/2023 4:29 PM (GMT -8)
Wow, that is a lot of illnesses in 5 months. I've luckily not had a cold in years, knock on wood. I do still use a lot of hand sanitizer if I've been out somewhere and wash my hands every time I come home. And I try my best to not touch door handles (I use my sleeve or elbow), but I was doing that since before covid, lol. I got pretty paranoid after I got c diff. in 2016!

I kind of wish they kept the mask in the doctor's office requirements because you never know what germs people have there, especially at a primary care facility. I think the hospital where I get my labwork done still requires one.
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Posted 2/27/2023 5:57 PM (GMT -8)

CCinPA said...

Any idea how you got Covid? (Just curious. I am still very careful to avoid crowds and wear a KN95 mask wherever I go.)

Does Paxlovid have full approval yet? I worry that insurance won't cover it once all the government coverage ends (I think that's fairly soon)

Hope you recover quickly!

I know exactly where I got it and I’m mad about it. I took my dog to the vet and one of the vet techs was coughing and not wearing a mask (I wasn’t wearing one either). I got a $950 vet bill and a free case of Covid.

Don’t hold me to it but I think the Covid funding runs out in May. You can still order free test kits.

I thought that I had a sinus infection at first but then it stopped acting like a sinus infections and I tested positive the second day. My symptoms were bad the first two days and then I started taking Paxlovid the second day. The 3rd and 4th day (this past weekend) I was so exhausted that I couldn’t move. I woke up this morning and felt like a new person.
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Posted 2/27/2023 7:05 PM (GMT -8)
Im glad it's helping and you're starting to feel better!
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Posted 2/28/2023 8:04 AM (GMT -8)
I’m with PD! Haven’t been sick this many times in years. Although I guess I also have to say I was never that sick and wouldn’t have tested any of those times except for covid and not wanting to spread if I had it. I tested positive for flu in October, again in December, 10 days later with a different strain of flu and 2 days after that with covid!
Jeez enough already! I was being good and wearing a mask when out but my husband wasn’t and brought it home to me. Don’t know how I got the flu though! Not sure if paxlovid helped me as I was never that sick with covid to begin with, and the metallic taste was almost too much to deal with. But I know if your symptoms are severe to begin with that it can help a lot. Mostly I was tired.

Anyway… since having covid I’ve been bad and quit wearing a mask. And I’ve always been bad about washing my hands.
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Posted 2/28/2023 4:08 PM (GMT -8)
Sara I'm quite careful with handwashing, not touching my face, opening doors with my elbows etc, but i think most of the viruses I've had were airborn. I have tons of meetings and at a certain point they stopped organising ventilation and online options. I try to keep distance but some people don't respect personal space. Nobody wears a mask here any more and covid was officially declared endemic earlier this week (in fact the government said no more vaccines required for the time being). I tell myself it's good for me to have all these colds because I'm building up my immunity (or something....).
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Posted 2/28/2023 7:49 PM (GMT -8)
Glad you are feeling better, Keith!

Very few people wear masks here anymore. I get the evil eye from many because I have one on but I ignore them. Mostly I don't mind wearing a mask for the short time I am in a store or even for the 3 hours I am getting my infusion. I work from home and my job still embraces Teams meetings so that hasn't been an issue. I doubt that any of that is going to change -- not because they have health concerns, but because we have so many sites across multiple states. In general though when I do venture anywhere it's very rare I see anyone with a mask. The only exception is the health care organization I go to .. they still require masks for all the facilities -- doctor offices, hospitals, labs, infusion center etc. I suspect that when the national emergency declaration ends they won't require them anymore.

I think people have decided they will just take their chances and even if they get Covid it's no big deal anymore ... hospitals aren't overwhelmed and the daily deaths are really low. If I was younger without so many risk factors I likely would too.

PD -- hope you get that immunity built up soon! I would be sick of being sick. Geesh! Hopefully you have the worst behind you now. It's a shame that Paxlovid isn't more widely available. Everyone I know who has taken it says the same thing ... it was like flipping a switch. From very sick to feeling to almost normal within just a day or 2.

Flowers ... you aren't being "bad" for not wearing a mask anymore, but you are bad for not being careful about hand washing lol
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poopydoop said...
I have been unmasked for a while except on public transport. Apparently 2 years of isolation removed a lot of my immunity as I've had 4 colds in 5 months and a stomach flu. Prior to that i would get a cold once or twice a year...

I’ve been unmasked for 18-24 months since vaccines became much more common and I was already taking boosters.

I finished my Paxlovid course yesterday and today was my first day out of quarantine. My doctor told me to wear a mask in public for the next five days. I will test again after the fifth day to make sure I no longer has virus in my nasal cavity before I walk around again without a mask; I don’t want to spread it to anyone in public.
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Sara14 said...
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/not-enough-data-support-multiple-annual-covid-boosters-us-cdc-advisers-say-2023-02-24/

"There is not sufficient evidence to recommend more than one COVID-19 booster shot a year for older people and those with weakened immune systems, an expert advisory group to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Friday.

The COVID-19 working group of the CDC's Advisory Committee For Immunization Practices (ACIP) supported an annual booster campaign, likely in the fall, especially for populations considered at high risk, Dr. Sara Oliver, a CDC official who heads the group, said during a meeting of the agency's outside advisers."

Thought this may interest some of you.

Sara,

Since these vaccines have full FDA approval (no longer under emergency status) then doctors will have the option of giving additional Covid vaccine doses to patients that they think need it. Doctors currently do that will vaccines for patients on chemo and organ transplants.

I don’t qualify for the shingles vaccine due to age but I was able to get my GI to give me the vaccine due to the fact that I am immunocompromised. And my insurance paid for it.
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FlowersGal said...
I’m with PD! Haven’t been sick this many times in years. Although I guess I also have to say I was never that sick and wouldn’t have tested any of those times except for covid and not wanting to spread if I had it. I tested positive for flu in October, again in December, 10 days later with a different strain of flu and 2 days after that with covid!
Jeez enough already! I was being good and wearing a mask when out but my husband wasn’t and brought it home to me. Don’t know how I got the flu though!

I got some awful cold or flu right after thanksgiving. I was in bed for a week. I don’t usually get that sick.

I had Covid at the end of January and then again last week. It wasn’t a rebound, I got the second one from someone coughing all over the place (gross).

I’ve seen news reports that we’re much more susceptible to colds, flues, and other viruses because of the social distancing and masking for a few years. Our immune systems lost some of their knowledge and abilities.
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Posted 3/1/2023 6:39 PM (GMT -8)
My insurance covered the shingles vaccine as well.
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