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mjw82704
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Posted 8/21/2007 6:46 PM (GMT -8)
When I start to have a flare up I start bleeding and have pus when I have a bowel movement. The next step in this stage is a lose of control with my bowels at least once or twice per week. My poop is an oatmeal texture. Is this what happens with anyone else? I had a doctor tell me that since the texture of my poop is oatmeal like and not liquid that I might have a problem with my sphincter muscle, but this only happens when I am in a flare. What do you think?
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pb4
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Posted 8/21/2007 7:43 PM (GMT -8)
I think that's a weird response from your doc, why would your pooh consistancy have really anything to do with your sphincter muscles?

There are many types of poops that IBDers experiance anywhere from watery to solid hard.

It's common to have some loss of bowel control when you have IBD but it does not necessarily mean that there are sphincter issues, it's just the nature of the disease.

I do hundreds of kegal exercises and I still don't have complete control all the time, especially in the am and that's regardless of what the formation of my poops are.

I noticed in your sig line that you don't take probiotics? They are a huge benefit for IBDers since we tend to have bacterial over-growth issues...might even help with your oatmeal type poops...one thing that will help your oatmeal type poops for sure is taking a fibre supplement daily, my GI told me to and it's helped with many of my issues, including the mucus, gas and bloating and many other things.

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mjw82704
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Posted 8/21/2007 8:08 PM (GMT -8)
Hey thank you for the information. Do the Kegals really help you? I can start doing those immediately. It is so demeaning to have accidents at 34 years old. I have taken the probotics on and off and never seemed to see a difference but what the heck, I can sure try it again. How does the fiber supplement help? Does it harden the stool? What kind do you use?
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ach13
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Posted 8/22/2007 5:50 AM (GMT -8)
Bowel control and movement (too many) are my concerns of the moment as well. I'm trying Pentasa right now, I'm on my 2nd week and so far no blood in my stools even though I'm tapering my Prednisone and on 10mg / day this week. But I have lost formed BM's and my BMs are irregularly timed except for the one in the AM (sometimes I go only once per day, at most four). I'm on Acidophilus and it seems to help remove the pain as well.

What fiber supplements might help reduce the number of BMs? Are those in GNC okay?
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pb4
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Posted 8/22/2007 9:42 AM (GMT -8)
Hi guys :)

I use a fibre therapy called Prodiem stool bulker (they also make a laxative called Prodiem which are little round dark brown pill, avoid buying those, they are not the same thing)

Prodiem stool bulker is similar to metamucil tabs...they can be bought at any drug store...I'm unaware of anything that GNC sells.

Yes it bulks up the stools, instead of going many times/day with little deposits I now go less times with larger and formed deposits.

You must drink plenty of water with any fibre supplement, and always start with the smallest amount only increase if necessary and very slowly...

it will likely cause you extra gas and bloat which is normal adjustment for your system, but stick with it the benefits are well worth it (it took my system 3 months).

I strongly suggest you get back on probiotics a good one I use is called Primadophilus Reuteri made by natures way, taking them on and off is likely why you may not have noticed improvements, also you may not have been taking one that had enough cultures in it, the primadophilus contains 5 billion CFU.

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mjw82704
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Posted 8/22/2007 7:11 PM (GMT -8)
Thank you for the info I'm going to go by these items tomorrow!





Best wishes,
Melissa
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Wooly-bobs
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Posted 8/22/2007 11:28 PM (GMT -8)
Psillium husk works brill for me, the days i forgey to take it are easily spotted. Gives me a bit of extra gas but i'd prefer that than a runny bottom!
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at wit's end
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Posted 8/23/2007 5:21 AM (GMT -8)
Pb4, I am still having issues with going 3 times first thing in the morning. Makes me cramp low in the pelvic area, and then sting. I have to take tylenol for the cramps or spasms. And obviously, I cannot eat anything I want. Ate a bigger than normal meal last night and paid for it with severe gas, both stomach and intestinal. Ate a small chopped beef steak with gravy, small amount of macaroni and cheese and small amount of fried okra with a dinner roll. Paid for that big time. After I got rid of a bunch of gas off of my gut and out the other I felt better but my guts still feel knotted up. Some from gas I am sure but some from stress also. Don't know how I am going to function and eat out at nice places on vacation if I cannot eat a decent size meal ever. What can I do??? I am using the probiotics nightly, take digestive enzymes with my meals.

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FosterDad
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Posted 8/23/2007 7:35 AM (GMT -8)
I am a 38 year old male and have just really started to have "accidents" and it is totally degrading. I also find the mornings the absolute worst up until around noon. I always have one half my brain on butt alert and if there is any kind of rumble or grumble I have to start running if I have any chance what so ever of making it. Most of the time my bowel movements are more just lots of gas with mucos and blood first and then maybe I will get a few quarter size nuggets afterwards.
I too have to get onto a good probiotic, but I am not sure about the fiber supplement. Anyone know if you are experiencing a flare with constipation, if a fiber supplement is still good?
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pb4
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Posted 8/23/2007 9:17 AM (GMT -8)
I was severely flaring when my GI told me to take fibre supplements, it was the best thing I could have done, I was going a good 15-20X/day then with the fibre supplement I went down to 10 or less, then I added the probiotic and got down to (and still am at) 5 or less/day of formed stools, able to eat fibreous foods without getting all gassy and bloated...took care of my mucus as well.

Fibre helps both C and D.

at wit's end :)

Going 3X first thing in the morning may be as good as it gets for you, the pain is really something you should talk to your doc about, you're obviously in a flare still, it can take time to come out of a flare....I use bee propolis, it stopped all my bleeding and all the pain issues I had which were mainly in my lower back, bad enough to make me cry on the toilet every single time I had to "go"...it stopped my pain, cut back on my mucus and my daily BM's, that was one of the first things I started using for natural treatments for myself, then I added the omegas and then the fibre therapy then the probiotics, it took me a few yrs to figure out my regiment.

What works for some doesn't work for all, I am also very careful with eating a healthy diet, no processed foods, fast-foods or junk foods, I drink only water and chamomile tea and I excersise regularly as well.

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