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damo123 Veteran Member Date Joined Jul 2007 Total Posts : 714	Posted 8/22/2007 12:30 PM (GMT -6)
	This ones for Quincy I'd say!! I know that UC is just one type of Colitis. For instance isn't there colitis caued by a parasite (infectious colitis ?). My question is do all forms of colitis present themselves in the same way. Are all the medical symtpoms the same? For instance if a GI looks at you via a scope test how does (s)he know that your inflammation is due to UC and not due to a parasite. (Blood test?). Does this show up in the biopsy results? If inflammation is, as they say, jus the symptom then where do they look for the reason? Many Thanks, D 15 mg Pred (yuck!) 2400 mg Asacol + 500mg suppositories as needed Digestive Enzymes Probiotics + Bio Yougurt Acidophilus Calcium 1000mg Fish Oils a day Aloe Vera Anti Fungal Supplements & Caprylic Acid Nexium 20mg a day No Stress and a positive attitude (mostly!) Back to Top

suebear Veteran Member Date Joined Feb 2006 Total Posts : 5698	Posted 8/22/2007 2:21 PM (GMT -6)
	My understanding is that to have UC you must present ulcers in the colon. The other forms have a different presentation. Sue dx proctitis in 1987 dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998 1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics 2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic 2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free Back to Top

Coalfire Regular Member Date Joined Jul 2007 Total Posts : 52	Posted 8/22/2007 2:43 PM (GMT -6)
	A stool sample sent for culture would show if there was any infection. Not sure if the pathology of a biopsy would show parasitical involvement?? Current meds Asacol MR 400mg x2 3times/day Fish Oil 1000mg 1 cap Acidophilus 2 tabs Aloe Elite 4 caps x2 Multi Vit x1 Caprylic Acid x1 Chewable Calcium & Vit D 2 tabs Yakult Diagnosed '96 ?colitis?crohns (biopsies inconclusive) Remission for 11yrs, no meds Current flare since April 07, awaiting scope Back to Top

quincy Elite Member Date Joined May 2003 Total Posts : 30842	Posted 8/22/2007 3:34 PM (GMT -6)
	There are many things that can mimic UC's pattern of inflammation, ulcerations and symptoms. Ulcers aren't always present in every UC patient because there are varying degrees of inflammation and symptoms, but for some, ulcerations are in other bowel afflictions as well. So, it's not always the only determining factor. It's definitely a process of elimination...which my GI did during diagnosis. UC was the first assumption and the last on the cross-off list. I found this site...might be helpful. http://www.emedmag.com/html/pre/gic/consults/061502.asp q HeatherStatus:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night) ~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis) ~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance) ~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed ~vitamins/minerals ~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime ~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper ~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) ~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!) My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!! Back to Top

damo123 Veteran Member Date Joined Jul 2007 Total Posts : 714	Posted 8/22/2007 4:41 PM (GMT -6)
	Quincy, Vague question but what is the likelihood of UC being diagnosed incorrectly....ie rather than one of the other types of colitis, in the "conveyor-belt" type hospital enviroment many of us are faced with? D 15 mg Pred (yuck!) 2400 mg Asacol + 500mg suppositories as needed Digestive Enzymes Probiotics + Bio Yougurt Acidophilus Calcium 1000mg Fish Oils a day Aloe Vera Anti Fungal Supplements & Caprylic Acid Nexium 20mg a day No Stress and a positive attitude (mostly!) Back to Top

quincy Elite Member Date Joined May 2003 Total Posts : 30842	Posted 8/22/2007 5:10 PM (GMT -6)
	Interesting query Damo. I personally think there's a less likelihood of being misdiagnosed today as compared to many eons ago. Although, one is always at the mercy of the doctor (be them good or not) who initially does the diagnosis. I think some may have UC as well as another disorder/bacteria bug/parasite/allergies at the same time if UC is the most obvious. What I wonder is how many of us have leaky gut syndrome? What I'm thinking is that if "we" saw a doctor at the initial onset of symptoms, it could possibly be dealt with if it is bacteria/parasite/allergy...before the body has a chance to overreat and set up the process of UC. My theory....but who sees a GI firstly? and how long after the initial onset do we have UC symptoms? I know I didn't start out bleeding until 3 years later after the 3 weeks of solid diarrhea. My "then" doc didn't do stool samples...but I'm sure I had food poisoning of some sort. I lost 17 pounds in those 3 weeks. I know there have been a few whose dignosis was changed from UC to CD once it started to act like CD. quincy HeatherStatus:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night) ~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis) ~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance) ~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed ~vitamins/minerals ~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime ~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper ~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) ~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!) My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!! Back to Top

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