Does fruit make you bloated?

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tjf
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   Posted 8/24/2007 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I just had some pineapple, strawberries and kiwi (it was in a nifty little pack from Target). Anyway I serve my tummy is massively bloated. Hmm I'm thinking I will be paying the price for this in the morning! Too bad I have to put on a bathingsuit and take my son to the pool later!
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princesa
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   Posted 8/24/2007 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Natural (and/or added) sugar in the fruit can cause abdominal bloating if you have an overgrowth of candida.
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   Posted 8/24/2007 4:34 PM (GMT -7)   
The only fruit that makes me bloated is watermelon regardless if I'm in remission or not.
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   Posted 8/24/2007 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I think I way overdid it. I had to take two phyzame and another priolosec. I have learned a lesson!
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quincy
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   Posted 8/25/2007 12:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Fruit can bloat you, especially if you ate it alone on an empty stomach. Lots of acid.

ugh..It's not about candida..it's what fruit can do during the process of breaking down in the body. Not everyone can tolerate lots of fruit. As well...fructose isn't usually digested well..that's why it's a good food to eat to prevent constipation.

Adding different fibres can aid in the digestion process as would digestive enzymes.

q
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


princesa
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   Posted 8/25/2007 2:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry, but for me, it is about candida. I just thought I'd toss that possibility out there for consideration. Everyone has different issues.
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quincy
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   Posted 8/25/2007 4:51 PM (GMT -7)   
whatever....but how do you really know??
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


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   Posted 8/25/2007 6:11 PM (GMT -7)   
fruit doesnt seem to bother me any worse then anything else
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Eric704
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   Posted 8/25/2007 6:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, fruit doesn't bother me and I know I have dividing yeast build up... So.... Just depends how your digestive system reacts to it. Not that I eat it anymore.. But I still eat grapefruits and have no problem and that's pretty tangy and full of acid.

Also, quincy.. You always seem to be anti-scd/yeastfree whatever diet. I guess diet wouldn't help much unless you get tested to see if you really do have yeast/candida problems. You need it confirmed. However, people don't need grains and starches to live a healthy life as I've seen you claim alot.

I mean, I can take your "treat both ends" theory and say it did nothing for me for 6 years. Since I've been off all GI based meds I've been living a better life. But I don't tell everyone not to do it.

Post Edited (Eric704) : 8/25/2007 7:23:50 PM (GMT-6)


Sara14
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   Posted 8/25/2007 8:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Fruit doesn't seem to make me bloated. I eat a lot of berries, bananas, pears, apples and kiwi.
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princesa
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   Posted 8/26/2007 3:11 PM (GMT -7)   
quincy said...
whatever....but how do you really know??

I'm puzzled by your attitude towards me. I'm a fairly new member here. Have I said something to offend you and cause you to be rude to me?
 
If someone asks a question, I respond based on my own experiences and put them out there as possibilities for consideration. Isn't the sharing of experiences and knowledge gained from our personal research what this forum is about?
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quincy
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   Posted 8/26/2007 8:05 PM (GMT -7)   
princesa, OK...(firstly, it wasn't my intention to be rude, you perceived it as rude)...now let me rephrase it so there won't be any inflection..how do you know you have yeast? Is it what you believe or did you get tested? or was it through trial and error?

Eric...I have never said i was anti-SCD...I think it's a well-rounded diet with good food intake. I suggest it often. What I don't support is people NOT eating or going on a "white" diet or bowel rest..etc.

I never suggest people need to eat grains or starches to live a healthy life. I never believed it in the '80s and I don't believe it now.
I always suggest protein and a well balanced diet. I also suggest that whole grains are a source of B vitamins...and for those who don't consume them to get their B12 checked and to possibly take a good brand multi B vitamin (not mega dosages, however).

I do say that I don't believe candida/yeast/fungus/food is a cause of UC, UC flares or will heal them. That will never change...but one might have that issue in conjunction with UC.

I do believe that if certain foods bother someone...don't eat them. Plain and simple.

It's unfortunate the both ends approach didn't work for you..treating that way (5ASA to start) is a base-line med regimen that many doctors don't even offer to their patients. I didn't say it works for everyone...but if anyone isn't on it, they should at least try it.
Of course...many are enema/suppository phobic and will avoid it like the plague, and I even believe some doctors have another motive for not suggesting it..which I don't quite understand.

I pretty much say the same things.....I don't, however, believe anyone has to read between the lines with what I have to say. You must read more of my postings to get the "well rounded" personality and suggestions of mine you're missing.

quincy
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


pb4
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   Posted 8/26/2007 9:41 PM (GMT -7)   
hmmm, pineapple, mangos, kiwis, papaya are all natural digestive enzymes which help break down your meals if you eat them directly after each meal....


but to answer your question, no, fruit does not bloat me, then again, I can eat all fruits and veggies without getting gassy or bloated since taking my fibre supplements daily.

:)
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Eric704
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   Posted 8/26/2007 10:43 PM (GMT -7)   
quincy said...

I do say that I don't believe candida/yeast/fungus/food is a cause of UC, UC flares or will heal them. That will never change...but one might have that issue in conjunction with UC.
I don't think it's the cause either. However, when your colon is in such bad shape for so long all those things can build up to where it causes major symptoms.

"Common yeast
Heavy fungal infection with the common yeast (shown) displaces good bacteria. Such heavy infections can cause dysbiosis and other intestinal disbalances. Dividing (multiplying) yeast indicates that damage is being caused to the intestinal lining. The same phenomenon is also observed in dividing Candida."

"Dysbiosis
A disturbance in the bacterial flora of the alimentary canal with resulting gut dysfunction, which may result in diarrhoea, malabsorption, or the absorbing of toxins from the gut with a wide range of symptoms. This condition is probably very common, and up to 50% of the population may be affected at some time. Effective treatment usually requires dietary manipulation to discourage the growth of pathogenic organisms, and it may also be possible to recolonize the gut with ‘friendly’ bacteria, available in the form of ‘probiotics’ such as Lactobacillus acidophilus."

http://www.parasitetesting.com/picturesofparasites/

So you see, if you research on it instead of just "beliving things" you can see a huge connection to why some people just can't get into remission with flares for such a long period of time. There is no way around it except to treat it.

Quincy, have you ever had a quality lab check for parasites/yeast? I'm not talking about local labs either.

Post Edited (Eric704) : 8/27/2007 12:11:04 AM (GMT-6)


quincy
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   Posted 8/27/2007 12:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Eric....Ah, you young whipper snipper, ya think I  just rolled off the ol' turnip truck?? confused
You're suggesting I ain't never done any research and just pulled that belief from under those rotten fungus infested turnips? nyet!

All that info's been around, well..not as far back as the ark-ages, but for at least goin' on nigh 20 years since I first read about it. tongue
 
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No, I haven't had a separate (quality?) lab do the testing for fungus/parasites. When I was diagnosed, the GI did testing for bacteria infection and parasitic infestation. I don't know about the candida..but I doubt it.

None of my symptoms seem to point toward that I should have the testing done.
Have you had it done?  What were the results? .. you may have posted them but I don't remember.

We all have parasites, and I don't deny they can cause havoc or disease or allergies or whatever. But, I don't think they're a cause of UC or CD. So, I guess they can't be my very own best friends, eh?

I take probiotics..good ones from my perspective..but maybe not to others.

I appreciate the concern.

quincy
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!

Post Edited (quincy) : 8/27/2007 1:33:54 AM (GMT-6)


Eric704
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   Posted 8/27/2007 1:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Quincy, If you read the first sentence I made, I said I don't belive they cause UC either. I'm not suggesting you didn't research it, but when you use the word belive, I don't know what to make of it. :)

Yes, I too was like you. I didn't think I had to worry or care about having a yeast build up because I know a hardcore ammount of stress triggered my UC back when I was 16. This wasn't typical stress, and I wont get into details.. It was pretty bad though, nothing any kid should go through.

I did have the www.parasitetesting.com lab do a test to see if I did infact have any parasites. When I got the results I was surprised that they did find diving yeast (no, it's not good for you and no you shouldn't just ignore it) I was expecting maybe a bug or something, who knows. But not dividing yeast.

Now I'll tell you this. Back in last August I stopped all my meds and started the LDN (low dose naltrexone) because it's supposed to help with all kinds of auto-immune diseases. Before on my meds and such I had watery stools like 20 times a day. I got used to it for 6 years after my doc shoved every kind of prescription down my throat and I always thought it was the best option. After I stopped taking the scripts and started taking LDN I was going 4-7 times a day on the same diet I always had. I was like "wow this thing actually works I wonder how long it will take me to get into remission." Well, 6 months later and it was still at the steady pace. So I figured I got the auto-immune part taken care of maybe I have some bugs I have to kill off or something.

That brings us back to the test. I honestly think if I can get rid of the yeast/fungus build up from my colon being damaged all those years, I might finally go into remission after never being in remission once for 7 years since I got this disease.

Also, I remember my doctor showing my a colonscopy picture he was concerned about. He showed me this colorful stuff he said looked to be "pre-cancerous cells." Yeah, well first thing I thought of when I seen it was it looked like some sort of fungus build up. He also said it could just be a yeast/fungus build up but paid no attention to it and rather just focused on it being precancerous cells (which I don't belive it was.) This was 2-3 years ago.

So as you can see, once you ACTUALLY put the effort into seeing what's really in your colon with a professional lab (studies say 98%(?) of labs don't know how to test for parasites properly). I only paid $100 for the test, $25 for the kit. Well worth the money for all the information they give you. They will send it to your doctors office but I would also ask for a copy so you can research the findings on your own also.

Hope that clears some stuff up on my take on yeast/fungus (which I also chose to ignore, like you, for so long.)

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   Posted 8/27/2007 4:56 AM (GMT -7)   
If you guys would like to start a FRIENDLY discussion on yeast please post a new topic. And when I say friendly I mean be open to each other's opinions and no bickering!
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Eric704
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   Posted 8/27/2007 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Looks friendly to me. Perhaps re-read?

tjf
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   Posted 8/27/2007 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
No Eric I don't need to reread. I read every word. I will reiterate....if you would like to start a post regarding yeast and or parasite testing please feel free to do so.
Tabitha

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Post Edited (tjf) : 8/27/2007 11:09:41 AM (GMT-6)


Eric704
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   Posted 8/27/2007 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   
tjf said...
No Eric I don't need to reread. I read every word. I will reiterate....if you would like to start a post regarding yeast and or parasite testing please feel free to do so.

Well after I made my reply I tried to edit it to say "I forgot about how it started off" which was alittle unfriendly. But it ended friendly.

But that's just how forums work. One topic leads to another.

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   Posted 8/27/2007 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
And as forum mods, we just ask that you keep it on topic and friendly....that's just how we work.

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   Posted 8/27/2007 6:50 PM (GMT -7)   

I know we are often in pain, and often in a bad way.  Please, don't let that pain and frustration manifest itself by being unkind to each other, or judgemental, or even cranky.  Remember we are a loving community here and it is a struggle just to get by on our own.  Also sometime we lash out at the ones we can safely - and sometimes that is online - very safe but still can be hurtful.  Treat others as you would like to be treated - the golden rule! hehe.

It is perfectly wonderful to have knowledge to share, and an opinion to evangelize - but everyone is different and it is up to them to accept that knowledge and choose to integrate it into their remission strategy.

In the meantime, maybe we might all take a collective breath together and lovingly share our thoughts.

With sincere love for all our members,

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love4cats
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   Posted 8/28/2007 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Fruit does not bother me at all and seems to be the only thing I can eat when I am in a flare.  I eat apples, oranges, watermelon, cantelope, peaches, plums, all berries.  I do have a problem with bananas so I eat those sparingly.

 
 
Dx:  2006
 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence.
 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes).
 
 

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