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isotired
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Posted 9/6/2007 1:42 AM (GMT -6)
Hey everyone,

Has anyone been told by their GI to not drink Milk?  That was one of the first things my GI told me not to drink.  I love Milk, but I havent had it in over a year.  The reason I am asking is I want to find out the reason why I should not drink it.  I know it coats the intestine pretty well, in fact, I saw an article saying milk might replace barrium dye for some intestine tests.  I figured, if it coats the intestine, and you have ulcers, it would probably make those ulcers not feel very good.  However, if it has something to do with the Lactose and the way it is broken down, and creates gas, then that is something completely different, and would go for any dairy across the boards.

This will help me out because I will know if I can only drink soy milk, rice milk, or if I can get closer to those milk alternatives that actually taste like milk, like lactaid.  Oh what I wouldn't do for some milk and cookies.  But for now, I will settle for my rice milk (non-dairy) and puffed corn cereal.

Thanks everyone.

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KitKatBaker
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Posted 9/6/2007 4:28 AM (GMT -6)
I would guess that you were told that because a high number of people with IBD are lactose intolerant.  My first GI told me the same thing.  When I asked about diet, he said to eat whatever I could tolerate, and that a lot of people have problems with milk.
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njguy69
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Posted 9/6/2007 4:43 AM (GMT -6)
www.notmilk.com
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tjf
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Posted 9/6/2007 6:26 AM (GMT -6)
I drink Lactaid milk. It doesn't bother me. My GI told me that milk is hard on the digestive system period.....whether you have tummy troubles like we do or not. I just try to use it in moderation.
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princesa
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Posted 9/6/2007 8:18 AM (GMT -6)
People who have impaired digestions often have problems with both dairy and gluten. If dairy products bother you, it could be the lactose, the milk sugar, in which case you could experiment with lactose-free milk. But some folks also have problems with casein, the milk protein, in which case you're better off avoiding dairy altogether. Once your intestines are healed or at least less inflamed, you may be able to tolerate milk products.

For me personally, it's not worth the risk. I've tried Lactaid, goat milk, homemade yogurt, the whole nine yards. I just feel better when I eliminate dairy from my diet. Very occasionally, I'll have a sprinkle of cheese or a little butter, but no milk, ice cream, whipped cream, cream-based sauces, etc.
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pb4
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Posted 9/6/2007 8:44 AM (GMT -6)
Milk is disgusting in my opinion...it's cow mucus, yuck! I know some people love it but it just grosses me out, sorry.

Some people also believe the MAP theory regarding milk and IBD, if you google MAP you should get lots of article regarding this...of course MAP is also found in other sources like water and such so that's why it's very contraversal.

And true, many with IBD do have a higher risk of becomming lactose intolerant, but the probiotic I use daily aids with that so I no longer have to use lactaid pills anymore.

:)
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kb5
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Posted 9/6/2007 8:52 AM (GMT -6)
When I was young i was lactose intolorent but have grown out of it. When flaring I do stay away from dairy (though i pretty much stay away from most things) Too much dairy can make me nauseas but I really have to pig out on it. Moderations is what I have found works for me.
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ediekristen
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Posted 9/6/2007 9:58 AM (GMT -6)
In my opinion, Lactaid milk tastes TERRIBLE. I don't mind the Rice milk too much, but I did not like the Vanilla flavored one. I don't drink milk anymore (unless I'm really feeling 'rebellious' and decide to have a glass of chocolate milk, haha) because it just hurts my stomach. Same with Orange Juice... I haven't drank orange juice since.... Well, it's been over 5 years I can tell you that much. It just makes my stomach burn.
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texaswindmill
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Posted 9/6/2007 11:47 AM (GMT -6)

Hi,

My GI told me "no milk when flaring". So, I drink no milk when I flare. I don't drink milk anyway; however, every so often, I go on a cream in my coffee kick (for the past month, I have been drinking cream in my coffee). Now, I am "off" cream. I just go through phases where I want the cow's mucus, as it were :-) .

Once in a blue moon, I will drink chocolate milk and around Thanksgiving a little 'nog action. Last year, when I was dx, I didn't touch dairy. This year...hee hee hee, looking forward to a little 'nog, if I am not flaring devil

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Sara14
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Posted 9/6/2007 8:32 PM (GMT -6)
My GI told me I could drink/eat whatever I want. I drink milk and eat other dairy problems and they don't seem to affect me at all. I don't think you have to avoid milk unless you're lactose intolerant...that's what I have been told by 2 GIs and from research I've done. If you're craving it, you might as well try it and see how you react to it.
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kazygirl
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Posted 9/19/2007 5:29 AM (GMT -6)
weird thing... im only lactose intolerant when im flaring. it gives me a horrible gut ache for hours if i drink it or put in cereal or coffee... but when im not flaring, im good to go. i can have tons of it. i guess try it and see if it bothers you, if not, then drink away, if it does, then dont drink it...
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FosterDad
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Posted 9/19/2007 8:27 AM (GMT -6)
I was told that I should be drinking RAW MILK. Even though it is illegal to get in Canada. Apparently, even people that are lactose intollerant are able to drink it and the benifits are suppose to be huge. I dont know yet because I havent really done any research on it.

Any thoughts???
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pb4
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Posted 9/19/2007 12:29 PM (GMT -6)
I've never hear of that ....where in Canada are you? I'm in Alberta...the primadophilus reuteri probiotic I take aids with lactose intolerance, I no longer have to use lactaid pills and I had severe lactose issues, I don't drink milk but will have other types of dairy on occassion.

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FosterDad
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Posted 9/19/2007 12:52 PM (GMT -6)

Im on Vancouver Island...(West Coast)  I was talking with the owner of a very reputable health food/all natural store and her daughter has had UC for 21 years.  She says that raw milk does not affect lactose problems and it actually helped with her daughter who can not have any dairy.  I thought it sounded weird but my wife grew up on a farm and basically used to drink right from the cow and said its great.  The owner of the store said that she was unable to provide me with a source of raw milk because it is apparently illegal to sell any unpasturized milk in Canada (maybe its just BC....not really sure) 

But before I crawl under a cow and start feeding I wanna be sure about this...lol

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me,too
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Posted 9/24/2007 5:54 PM (GMT -6)
If you're interested in the benefits of Raw Milk, here's a useful link:

http://www.realmilk.com/
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FosterDad
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Posted 9/25/2007 7:49 AM (GMT -6)
Thanks for the link **me,too** they actually had a link on the site to a place right by me to buy raw dairy products.
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Sara14
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Posted 9/25/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -6)
There's a reason it's illegal to sell unpastuerized milk. It's not safe to drink it.

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/public/pub/foodsafe/milk_unpast.html
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NuffinButtTrouble
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Posted 9/25/2007 11:33 AM (GMT -6)
uc veteran,

I just read the information at the site you provided...it really makes a lot of sense and the studies speak for themselves. For me, milk just makes my uc condition worse...then add to that cereal (sugar)...it's a recipe for disaster...at least for me anyway.

NBT
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