venus fly trap tablets & triphala

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wishiwasnormal
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   Posted 9/26/2007 6:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi all
 
 
new to this so please dont shout if i type something wrong!!!
 
been diagnosed with colitis for serveral years and im just making do with asacol tablets untill i started to look into the wonderful world of the net and discovered i dont just have to put up with stuff.
 
has anyone else tried venus fly trap tablets under a german doctor can only find them on american and new zealand web sites
and has anyone tried an indian supplement called Triphala
 
 
thanks

quincy
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   Posted 9/26/2007 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Asacol is a well documented med for treatment and maintenance of UC and CD.

I'm missing the point of what you're putting up with.....has your doctor not prescribed any rectal meds yet? I would enquire and request them. Since you're on Asacol, I would suggest a 5ASA retention enema.

I wouldn't consider a venus fly trap whatever pill touted as a replacement for asacol.

quincy
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
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wishiwasnormal
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   Posted 9/28/2007 2:35 AM (GMT -7)   
im kinda guessing ur doctors are so much more 'with it' than the one i have

ive been on asacol for over 15 years and i guess from looking at a lot of posts here im not as bad as i could be.

the item u suggested is that prescription only

venus fly trap is an alternative medicine to use with not use instead of kills all bad bacteria or so they suggest

when u have a problem like colitis sometimes ull try anything dont u think?

thanks for replying though
:)

Horus
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   Posted 9/28/2007 4:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Bad bacteria are inside you ALL the time. It's whether they cross the mucus barrier that is more important. Taking a supplement because it has anti bacterial properties is foolish and is a waste of money. Whose to say it's always a bacterial problem anyways? Could be viral, could be genetic, could be so many different causes that just looking at it as a bacterial etiology just shows a lack of understanding of what UC really can be caused by. Anti bacterial things I've taken orally have always made me worse.

Triphala is an antioxidant and there are much better antioxidants than this to take and antioxidants aren't the only thing to take either.

wishiwasnormal
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   Posted 9/28/2007 4:18 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the point of view but to say something is foolish when there isnt a cure for the problem doesnt help just makes it a whole lot worse

maybe i am foolish but if i think it helps isnt that a good thing

on a more friendly thought what do u take?

Horus
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   Posted 9/28/2007 5:08 AM (GMT -7)   
wishiwasnormal said...
thanks for the point of view but to say something is foolish when there isnt a cure for the problem doesnt help just makes it a whole lot worse

maybe i am foolish but if i think it helps isnt that a good thing

on a more friendly thought what do u take?



You being so new I'll cut you some slack. :) I'm a LONG time veteran of UC and think I have an exceptional handle on the various types of UC and what has been working and not working from hanging out on these varous boards for so many years plus all my trials.

I'm a stickler for proof when someone says something and I like to see medical references or something similar to back up theories and suggested treatment protocols. So many people have to wade through a mountain of misinformation and opinions on how to treat this disease that it becomes almost a futile endeavor to discuss it at any length with anyone without including some factual references from credible sources like medical research. When I say that taking antiboitic type supplement's in hopes that it will help treat UC in some small way just shows me that they are a newbie is all. We all were once. Antibiotics have been tried for decades without any success. Some people have taken flagyl but it was never intended as a long term treatment. Your better approach is to reinforce the mucus barrier in the colon via phospholipid manipulation to keep the bad bugs from crossing over to the colon wall. You won't need antibiotics if this is a priority. I say so because I have picture proof of this concept I can show you but you can dig up the references here on healingwell yourself as I have posted it before in the past. Plus I place high value on fiber supplements to keep up a high production of butyrate in the colon. It is very therapeutic and anti carcinogenic to the colon wall. You should also look into incorporating antioxidants into your diet as you will find that asacol and similar drugs work along these lines as well albeit further down in the sigmoid. Dark chocolate and beans and other resistant starches along with select supplements will get you on your way to healing. However you must dial in your diet pretty tight to get all this working together in harmony for maximum effect. There are many other suggestions I could make but I have to make this short.

wishiwasnormal
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   Posted 9/28/2007 7:06 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks so very much

although u say im a newbie ive have colitis for over 15 years so not new to the problems just maybe not had the right help

not sure how this works or if this can work but can i email u or something

thanks again for not being hard on me :)

Burli
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   Posted 9/28/2007 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Please point me to the credible medical research showing the benefits of taking chocolate for UC. I found only vague statistics of poorly linked data points--no credible medical research. Please point me to significant evidence that shows eating dark chocolate will help me recover from a UC flare.
 

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