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Discouraged
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 54
   Posted 9/30/2007 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
UC and the fact that I have it came up in a discussion with a man I didn't know the other day and he told me to get wheat out of my diet.  Anyone ever hear of this? 
Diagnosed with UC (proctosigmoiditis) April 2006
Asacol 1200 mg (3 pills) 3 times a day
Canasa suppositories 1000mg at bedtime
Currently in a flare and taking Prednisone 30 mg per day to taper to zero in about 9 weeks *just had dosage increased to 40 mg because I am not responding* Back down to 30 mg and doing okay..so far
Aciphex
Colazal
Rowasa
Bentyl when needed
 


NIcepeter
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 72
   Posted 9/30/2007 10:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes. UC seems like related to gluten intorence for some people. I just want to play safe, I quit wheat product a month ago.

quincy
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   Posted 9/30/2007 11:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Gluten intolerance happens in the small intestine, not the colon.

There's no connection between wheat and UC from what I've read.

I eat it with no problems.

q
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


FosterDad
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 97
   Posted 10/1/2007 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey *Q*....

Regarding the wheat intolerance thing..... What do you think about the idea that it is actually the yeast in the wheat product affecting the UC?  I know with me, if I eat a good "fresh" wheat product, I very rarely have any problems, but if I try any mass produced, or high yeast content, (ie pizza dough, doughnut batter) wheat product, I usually get issues.


Just diagnosed Aug. 14/07
Asacol 8 / day (5-Aminosalicylic Acid 400mg)
Pred. 50mg
Cortafoam (butt mousse, not emima)
Florastor Probiotic


princesa
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 2198
   Posted 10/1/2007 7:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Eliminating both gluten and dairy makes a huge difference for me. In fact, I feel better when I eliminate all grains. A full celiac panel shows I do not have celiac disease. Go figure.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
C-scope confirmed UC diagnosis 9/18/2007
No explanation for right side pain and thickening of bowel wall
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine, back on a pred taper for first flare in years
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 10/1/2007 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
FosterDad said...

Hey *Q*....

Regarding the wheat intolerance thing..... What do you think about the idea that it is actually the yeast in the wheat product affecting the UC?  I know with me, if I eat a good "fresh" wheat product, I very rarely have any problems, but if I try any mass produced, or high yeast content, (ie pizza dough, doughnut batter) wheat product, I usually get issues.

"Issues" and "food symptoms" and "UC symptoms"..they're different to me.
High yeast products could cause gas I would think, but not UC symptoms.  If one has a flaring gut, then food in general will bother them.  Fermented or yeasty products could definitely exacerbate discomfort. 
Describe "issues". 
Any whole grain products will give me symptoms, even fresh, wholesome and homemade.  I'll still eat them, but not on a large scale. 
People who don't have UC may have symptoms from processed foods, lots of stuff in them to make them last longer on the shelf.   Not all of us digest foods the same way or as easily.
Maybe you could see if a digestive enzyme for carbohydrates will help when you consume pizza or doughnuts. 
I get severe gas and discomfort a few hours after eating bananas, although I love the taste .... most UCers don't have a problem with them.   Go figure, but I avoid them for the most part. 
When I was first diagnosed, I avoided foods that bothered me (high in fibre, raw foods, salads) during my functioning hours so that I'd have less discomfort.  Evenings were a different matter, however....when I was "quieter", so was my gut, so I ate what I wanted then.  Eventually as my UC symptoms improved, I started to consume more of a variety of foods.  It all depended on where I was and what foods were available if I was eating out.   It wasn't a UC-thing...it was a comfort thing.  No foods made UC symptoms worse or better.   Flaring was flaring.
I never starved myself, and actually saw having diarrhea so many times a day as a way to eat what I wanted....I was severely underweight. 
This probably doesn't answer your question, however.  lol....I'm one who doesn't support much of the food causes UC/flares theory.
quincy

*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


redplum
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 49
   Posted 10/2/2007 10:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi discouraged,

I have also heard about wheat being a problem for UC sufferers, as well as sugars, processed foods and diary products. I think that whole unprocessed wheat breads may be a little better for the GI tract rather than processed white breads with many preservatives and sugars. Also, some people are probably sensitive to pizza crust and donuts, etc. I know I definitely am. I think that you just have to fiqure out which foods disagree with you and try to avoid them. For myself, I have greatly reduced the amount of wheat I consume--I try to eat more rice and millet breads. Also, no diary for me. It has helped me.

Regards,

red plum

Wooky
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 41
   Posted 10/3/2007 1:14 AM (GMT -7)   

I'm a big believer in the you are what you eat theory. but not in the practice what you preach. I've experimented with every diet there is for all my different symptoms the more i read the less i can eat. At one stage wheat was areal problem now though I'm ok if I eat wholemeal or just have the occasional bit of wheat. It does get rediculous cutting it out totally you don't realise how much it is in, like sauces tinned baked beans.  I do really notice the effects of what I eat. I love sugar and especially chocolate, which i always pay for, if i eat. Also if I eat dairy I have big problems but i did b4 i was diagnoed with UC in nov06. So at the moment I'm pretty much just eat'n meat chicken fish and vegies, can't really even eat tomato or capsicum too gasy. It's a joke but I find it helps.

good luck let us know if it does help


27yr old female
All drugs induce pancreatitis
fibre blend twice a day
chai herbal tea
chlorophyll 60ml/litre
licorice piece's
miso soup


Joz
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Date Joined Jun 2005
Total Posts : 85
   Posted 10/4/2007 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
I think it makes a real difference, but possibly not for everyone. I'm currently trying to keep wheat to a minimum, along with sugar and chocolate (Hell on earth) and alcohol. I can clearly see results, also, if I do eat something containing wheat I am grumbly and painful...
I think it is definately worth a trial run to see how it affects all symptoms (not just of UC)...
27 yr old female
Diagnosed Feb 2005 with pancolitis
Asacol: 2x3 daily, 50mg Imuran (since March 2006-in remission)
Multivitamin, SCD yoghurt
 

 


1s
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 49
   Posted 10/4/2007 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
personal experience- i cut out yeast immediateley
when i cut out gluten, things got bad- because i was eating a lot of rice and corn flours
but i had been eating lots of flour tortillas, and if i toasted them well, they made me rfeel better, if i ate them uncooked, they made me bleed a lot.
left sided
prescribed lialda
take herbal meds instead

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