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Got2Believe
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   Posted 10/2/2007 1:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I have small faint spots on my neck and I really can't see them, but after having UC you know you need to see a Doctor for ANYTHING. So a dermatologist today said they are caused by yeast called tinea versicolor. He said everybody has yeasts in their pores but for some reason white spots appear when they grow too much. I mentioned that I believed that yeast plays a role in my UC and he said if it does that the yeast on my neck is totally unrelated. After reading about tinea versicolor I found out corticosteroids can be related to its overgrowth. So maybe I have some yeast overgrowth in my GI tract and prednisone is actually causing more problems. (thank goodness i'm down to 5mg) If I do have yeast in my colon, that would explain why SCD and caprylic acid worked wonders for me when Asacol, Imuron, and Prednisone no longer helped.
Well i just wanted to share my experience and my thinking. If anyone has anything to say about this that would be cool, or if anyone has similar experiences please post a reply.
                                                                                         
27/M/TX
Severe Colitis (pancolitis) since January 9, 2005
currently:  I must say Under Control
RX/day:  5mg prednisone; 2400mg Asacol; 150 Azathioprine
OTC: Probioplus DDS; seldom use vitamins & other natural treatments
FYI: 3 weeks of SCD diet and caprylic acid put and end to my 3rd and worst flare ever. (But i'm not in SCD anymore)
 


quincy
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   Posted 10/2/2007 3:38 PM (GMT -7)   
UC and tinea versicolor are not related. Yeast doesn't cause UC.

I can see the connection with pred. Hot humid climates can cause it to worsen. yes, we all have yeast on our skin.

I know a few people with it...none of which have UC, been on pred or ever taken any meds that would have been a trigger. It's definitely more noticable when their skin darkens from the sun....or tanning bed (shudder).

q
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


kim123
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   Posted 10/2/2007 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm going to step on toes here...don't mean to. I agree with Got2Believe. My opinion...fungus "can', and has been implicated in many of our illnesses/diseases, not just UC. Even breast cancer now has been shown to have a higher incidence in people who have been on antibiotics (fungal mycotoxins). I am a firm believer that fungus/yeast/mold was the cause of my UC symptoms. After following an antifungal program, I got well again. For me, it was definitely cause/effect. Doesn't mean it is the story for the rest of y'all, but I'll bet it is a contributing factor for more of you than you think. Again, my opinion. The only way to tell is to experiment with an antifungal program (not the SCD, or cutting out one or two trigger foods) and see if your condition improves within a few weeks. If it does, then you know you are onto something. That was the only way I was able to find out. All my doctors (and their tests) told me that changing my diet and starving the fungus/yeast wouldn't make a difference. They were wrong.............thankfully. It's amazing to me that we are so accepting of the prescription drugs we take to alleviate symptoms, some with serious side effects, yet are hesitant to try something natural, like changing our diet for a few weeks to see if it could possibly be a fungal condition, after all. That is the only way to know for sure. And you betcha, it is really hard to cut out the foods you have loved for so long....sugars, breads, pastas,..... I'll be the first to admit that! But, what "if" you do feel better after trying it? Again, not saying this will help everyone, but I know from experience that some have been helped and are on their way to feeling much better.

tru-believer
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Date Joined Dec 2006
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   Posted 10/2/2007 8:24 PM (GMT -7)   
 
    Kim is 100% on the money.
    Alot of illnesses we are getting in the last 50
    yrs which didnt even exist before certain drugs
    are the direct result of their misuse.
    This and other environmental factors can
    result in compromised immunity.
 
    For alot of UCers,  if you want remission,
    youve got to rebuild the terrain of your colon.
    If its immunocomprimised, overrun by yeast
    or candida it isnt going to do its job. Its in
    plain failure mode and you see it as pain
    bleeding, gas, and no freakin  elimination.
 
    Youve got to fix it if you want results.
    Cut the refined sugar, beer, wheat gluten,
    (its sugar too) cereals out of your diet.
    Get on good probiotics,  get a good
    fungal eliminator like oil oregano (local)
    olive leaf extract or caprylic acid (take
    internally)  its all at the health food store for
    PENNIES-  and it does the job.
 
    Once you solve the bowel terrain problem
    you can eat some junk again but keep
    it from getting out of hand.  I did it
    and crossed the barrier back to good
    health at age 56 after having UC 30 yrs.
    Youd never know i had it.

tru-believer
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 329
   Posted 10/2/2007 8:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Nice to see you posting Kim. I rarely do anymore
It ususally falls on deaf ears. It costs a price to
get well that FEW are really willing to pay.

quincy
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Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 29842
   Posted 10/2/2007 8:54 PM (GMT -7)   
oh brother
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Knitty_Cat
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Date Joined Jun 2006
Total Posts : 105
   Posted 10/3/2007 1:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeast infections are a well known side-effect of pred. Check any medical site for pred side-effects and yeast infections will be listed along with a heap of other nasty side-effects. When I've taken pred in the past I used to get a thrush infection just before my period each month (when on pred doses of 40mg down to about 10mg). My GI said that was common and would go away when I was off the pred. He was right and I haven't had any yeast type problems since my last round of pred 18 months ago. Hopefully you'll find it'll clear up by itself once you're off the pred, but keep an eye on it.

At 5mg, you must be due to come off the pred pretty soon - that must be a relief!
UC since 2001, diagnosed May 2005
Salofalk tablets (Asacol) 4 x 2 tablets daily for maintenance, Salofalk enemas for flares
Oat bran 60grams daily, Metamuscil and multivitamins


damo123
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Total Posts : 713
   Posted 10/3/2007 2:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Its worth noting that UC, crohns and IBS have incresed at an exponential rate per head of population over the last 50 years or so. That would imply that something that we are doing now as a civilisation is causing this increase. If UC, colitis and IBS are not stress and food related then I'd love to hear someone explain this dramatics increase. Medical community doesnt seem to mention this fact that often.


2400 mg Asacol + 500mg suppositories as needed
Acidophilus
No Stress and a positive attitude (mostly!)
 
My colon appears to be acting somewhat normal (ssssshhhhh...don't jinx it)
 
 
 
 
 


suebear
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Date Joined Feb 2006
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   Posted 10/3/2007 6:16 AM (GMT -7)   

If you believe in the yeast/fungus theory then how come those of us who opted for surgery no longer have UC?

Sue


dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998
1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics
2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic
2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free
 


damo123
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   Posted 10/3/2007 8:02 AM (GMT -7)   
That's not my point anyway. I'm not saying yeast/fungus cause UC. I'm saying yeast/fungus cause a form of colitis.

By the same argument if yeast/fungus don't have anything to do with colon problems how come there's a lot of people who have been helped enourmously by anti fungal programmes.

I think it's important that we look at all viable solutions even if these go against modern medical thinking. If I didn't at least try and explore why I have this condition I'd never forgive myself.

In my experience the medical community are selective in what they say on the disease and on what info the publish. If a doctor tells me "Well we have no idea what casues this...but oh we have no evidence to link it to stress or food"...that's not enough for me.
2400 mg Asacol + 500mg suppositories as needed
Acidophilus
No Stress and a positive attitude (mostly!)
 
My colon appears to be acting somewhat normal (ssssshhhhh...don't jinx it)
 
 
 
 
 

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