question for those who are sensative to dairy

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hekela
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   Posted 10/6/2007 4:54 PM (GMT -7)   
hi!

i don't think i can ignore the signs any longer that cheese is just not my friend.
:(

anyway, my question is if you are sensative to dairy, do you avoid butter??
i know i can try this for myself and see how it goes... but i'm curious about what you all do... :)
thanks!
28, happily married, stay at home mom to 23 month old son
UC (probably pancolitis, but no c-scope yet), diagnosed June 2006, started having major symptoms sometime in January 2006, about 3 months after childbirth. 2nd flare (minor) may 2007 after taking caprylic acid for 2 weeks.
-tried SCD for 4 weeks with no improvement...
-Asacol since 7/26/06
-Prednisone 8/28/06-2/28/07. and again may '07, 8 week course.
-probiotics, ground psyllium husk, fish oil, CalMag, multivitamin

may you live all the days of your life.


kb5
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   Posted 10/6/2007 5:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I was lactose intolorant in my youth (9-14) and I avoided butter. Easier to use olive oil than deal with anything consequential. At this point I am not lactose intoleratant but do avoid any dairy during a flare. I then slowely add dairy back in. I have been tested for lactose intolorence and have proved so only during my prepubescent years.
Kelly, 29

Left sided UC diagnosed 1/98 age 19, Pan colitis diagnosed 1/07
Currently on 4x3 Asacol, Rowasa every other night, down to 15 mg pred.
75mg Imuran starting 8/23/07---fingers crossed!
Prontonix once daily for acid reflux, zofran twice daily for nausea


pb4
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   Posted 10/6/2007 8:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I was lactose intolerant as a baby and then again (severely) a few yrs ago (I had a lactose tolerance test done to confirm it a few yrs ago) I was using lactaid products which worked fine, then I started taking probiotics (primadophilus reuteri) and learned that it actually aids with lactose intolerance along with high cholesterol and vaginal health...all this is proven to be true with my experiance with it, I no longer have to use lactaid products, have any vaginal issues or high cholesterol.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


curly girl
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   Posted 10/7/2007 7:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I do have lactose intolerance. I developed it about 3 years ago, this was prior to being DX with UC. I do avoid butter. Instead I use smart balance light - it is lactose free. And when I want dairy products, I just use lactaid.
Diagnosed with UC January 2007
Responding well to Asacol 2 pills 3 times per day
Asacol upped to 12 per day until the flare is under control
Canasa added nightly until the flare is under control


AlabamaBabs
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   Posted 10/7/2007 10:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I have never been officially tested for lactose intolerance. However, since being diagnosed with pancolitis and possible crossover into chrones (due only to mouth sores per my GI) I can not drink milk, lactaid free milk or eat ice cream or cheese, other than a little bit every once in awhile. It makes my tummy extremely bloated and I also get cramps and lots and lots of gas. I can eat yogurt and also cottage cheese or the farmer's cheese (like curds and whey poem without the whey). I use the "I can't believe it's not butter" light and don't have any problems with it, thus far.
AlabamaBabs
Pancolitis diagnosed 5/07 
started on 2 Lialda/day and increased to 4 Lialda/day since 8/01/07
40 mg. Prednisone for two weeks starting 9/16/07 and tapering by 5mg per week started 9/28/07
Activia yogurt; multi-vitamin; extra calcium supplement; omega 3's


pb4
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   Posted 10/7/2007 10:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Yogurt has the lactose broken down which is generally why it doesn't cause problems for those who are lactose intolerant, if yogurt is bothersome for those who think they're lactose intolerant then it's likely the casein in dairy that's bothering them, casein bothering a person means they have an allergy not a intolerance issue (although I'm sure it's not unheard of to have possibly both casein allergy and lactose intolerance).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


hekela
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   Posted 10/7/2007 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks everyone for responding!
i have not been tested for allergy but i know the lactaid pills didn't help me. and a grilled cheese sandwhich the other day had me in pain and having D 2 hours later.

but my question about the butter... does it really have the casein or the lactose in it? i guess they would both still be in there but in minimal amounts?
28, happily married, stay at home mom to 23 month old son
UC (probably pancolitis, but no c-scope yet), diagnosed June 2006, started having major symptoms sometime in January 2006, about 3 months after childbirth. 2nd flare (minor) may 2007 after taking caprylic acid for 2 weeks.
-tried SCD for 4 weeks with no improvement...
-Asacol since 7/26/06
-Prednisone 8/28/06-2/28/07. and again may '07, 8 week course.
-probiotics, ground psyllium husk, fish oil, CalMag, multivitamin

may you live all the days of your life.


princesa
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   Posted 10/7/2007 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I use a little butter here and there. If you want to be careful about it, you might try buying or making your own clarified butter... you might find it easier to tolerate if you have problems with dairy.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
C-scope confirmed UC diagnosis 9/18/2007
No explanation for right side pain and thickening of bowel wall
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine, back on a pred taper for first flare in years
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 10/7/2007 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, both casein and lactose is in butter.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


hekela
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   
boohoo. :(

thanks!! :)
28, happily married, stay at home mom to 23 month old son
UC (probably pancolitis, but no c-scope yet), diagnosed June 2006, started having major symptoms sometime in January 2006, about 3 months after childbirth. 2nd flare (minor) may 2007 after taking caprylic acid for 2 weeks.
-tried SCD for 4 weeks with no improvement...
-Asacol since 7/26/06
-Prednisone 8/28/06-2/28/07. and again may '07, 8 week course.
-probiotics, ground psyllium husk, fish oil, CalMag, multivitamin

may you live all the days of your life.


UCreallySUCKS
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   Posted 10/7/2007 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Personally, I can tolerate cheese just fine (have it quite often), but milk is a big no-no when it comes to my diet.  Who knows why, that's just how my system decides to handle it.

---Nathan---  31 yr old male
Diagnosed May 2006 w/severe UC
Currently in mild/moderate flare
2 400mg Asacol 4X day
20 mg Prednisone
1 multivitamin/day
2 grams calcium/day
75mg Imuran/day
100mg Tramadol/day for abdominal pain (as needed)
1 Fioricet ever 4 hrs as needed for severe migraines


pb4
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   Posted 10/7/2007 11:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Generally harder cheeses are easier to tolerate for lactose intolerant people, compared to softer (usually white) cheeses.


:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


expecting226
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   Posted 10/8/2007 6:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I am lactose intolerant, too. I just developed it in the last two years, and I hate it! I love to eat dairy products! Anyway, here are some of the things I do to cope...

- For butter, I use Olivio or Canola-based margarine. Both are lactose-free. You can buy Olivio at any grocery store, and the other I usually get at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods Market or a store like that.
- I cook with either the margarine mentioned above or olive oil.
- I can tolerate hard cheeses as long as they are cold (i.e. cheddar) and goat cheese. Goat cheese is easier to digest and doesn't bother me at all.
- I purchase Soy yogurt and Soy milk. When I am sick of Soy milk, I use Lactaid milk. To me, it tastes just fine. I've even tried the Soy cheese, but I don't care for it at all.
- I purchase Soy ice cream or lactose-free ice cream (Breyer's has a great lactose-free ice cream).
- I also look for vegan products while I am shopping at a health food store. Vegans don't eat dairy, so any of their products tend to be lactose-free. I have found frozen burritos and things like that that are dairy-free as a results of manufacturers catering to the vegan market.
- If I am out to dinner or at social event or just plain want some dairy, I take a Lactaid pill before I eat. It does the trick and allows me to digest dairy without any trouble. I never leave home without Lactaid pills!

As an FYI on the Lactaid pills, my GI said you can never take too many of them so not to worry about it. They are simply the enzyme that digests lactose. I can even take them now while pregnant.
Current Medications:
- Asacol (4 pills, 2x per day)
- Rowasa (1 enema daily, as needed)
- Folic Acid (1 mg, 1x per day)
- Calcium (600 mg, 2x per day)
- Prenatal Vitamin (1x per day)


AlabamaBabs
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   Posted 10/8/2007 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Do any of you substitute yogurt for recipes calling for milk? I have substituted with the lactose free milk for banana pudding, but I don't think I'm even going to buy or ingest it anymore. I can't do the soy, as it hinders my thyroid situation. I am wondering about using yogurt in other recipes like muffins, meatballs, etc. I am also opting to stay clear of cottage cheese as of yesterday's post! I had so much gas and could only attribute it to eating cottage cheese! Isn't it weird that all my life I've enjoyed milk and dairy products with absolutely no problems and then when the UC comes along, bam! I don't know enough about it all yet to even step out and attempt an explanation. I really do want to consider a probiotic and next week when I "check in" with GI for the pred tapering, I'll put that one out there, with it. Sorry for the rambling.........:)
AlabamaBabs
Pancolitis diagnosed 5/07 
started on 2 Lialda/day and increased to 4 Lialda/day since 8/01/07
40 mg. Prednisone for two weeks starting 9/16/07 and tapering by 5mg per week started 9/28/07
Activia yogurt; multi-vitamin; extra calcium supplement; omega 3's


pb4
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   Posted 10/8/2007 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
It's not weird, many think that MAP bacteria from cows (which is also found in soil and water) is linked to IBD.

Many people become lactose intolerant after getting IBD and many are lactose intolerant that don't even have IBD, I heard once that around 80% of the worlds population or something, is lactose intolerant.

If that's the case it makes one wonder why on earth people ingest it if the majority cannot tolerate it, it's not like we couldn't survive without lactose.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


stm177
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   Posted 10/8/2007 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   
People first starting eating cheese because it's a good way to store food for the coming winter.
Proctitis - diagnosed April 2007 (symptoms starting in October 2006)

Flares treated with Rowasa enemas

Mild food diet (chicken, rice, collard greens, no sugar, no corn, no beef/pork, etc)

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