QUESTION ABOUT TRYING TO STOP BLEEDING

icanrace

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Posted 10/9/2007 9:06 AM (GMT -7)

so I've read on here and other places about natural things to take to attempt to get inflammation under control but now I want to know about the bleeding.
Are there any natural things out there we could be taking in addition to our scripts to help with the bleeding?

I guess another question I have is can we pass blood WITHOUT the inflammation or is the inflammation why we have blood?

Thanks again for sticking with me on my questions

Prednisone 10mg (2) tabs twice per day for one week- (then dr. wants an update) started Thursday 10-4-2007

Asacol 400mg (3) tabs twice per day- started Thursday 10-4-2007

-just came off Sulfasalazine (2) 500mg tabs twice per day

UCreallySUCKS

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Posted 10/9/2007 9:26 AM (GMT -7)

Sorry I really can't answer your question about anything natural to take. But how long have you been bleeding? When I was first diagnosed last year, I bled for 2, maybe 3 months before it finally stopped all together. Sometimes it just takes a while, especially in a severe flare. I would assume that the inflammation is the body's response to the ulcerations, so I guess any bleeding would mean the colon is likely inflamed as well. (don't think you'd bleed without inflammation...the ulcerations not only cause the bleeding, but also cause the inflammation)

---Nathan--- 31 yr old male

Diagnosed May 2006 w/severe UC

Currently in mild/moderate flare

2 400mg Asacol 4X day

20 mg Prednisone

1 multivitamin/day

2 grams calcium/day

75mg Imuran/day

100mg Tramadol/day for abdominal pain (as needed)

1 Fioricet ever 4 hrs as needed for severe migraines

tjf

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Posted 10/9/2007 9:36 AM (GMT -7)

Have you considered adding a probiotic? I also take a fiber supplement to help bulk things up.

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princesa

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Posted 10/9/2007 11:07 AM (GMT -7)

Jini Patel Thompson's book Listen to Your Gut lists supplements and dietary recommendations for getting bleeding under control. If you're interested, I can grab my book when I get home and give you the highlights.

Bleeding comes from ulceration which is part of the inflammatory process, as I understand it. So, no... you wouldn't have bleeding without inflammation, unless perhaps it was hemorrhoids or anal tears. But the type of bleeding is usually quite different from the bleeding of a bad uc flare.

Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999

C-scope confirmed UC diagnosis 9/18/2007

No explanation for right side pain and thickening of bowel wall

Maintenance dose sulfasalazine, back on a pred taper for first flare in years

Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.

quincy

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Posted 10/9/2007 11:48 AM (GMT -7)

Bleeding comes from the fact that the tissue is "friable" or fragile and has started to break down and easily peel away. There's a process of the destruction of tissue...not all have visible ulcers or ulcerations..but yes, you would only have bleeding with inflammation, and as princesea mentioned..it could be from anal tears (fissures) or hemorrhoids.

What other symptoms are you having? Diarrhea?

Since UC starts at the rectum, it seems it's the last part to heal as well as the first place to start. Considering the wear and tear it gets during bms..it will still be fragile..especially with more formed bms.

You should really consider to discuss rectal meds with your doctor...I'd suggest 5ASA retentions enemas ...to help the healing process.

I also support the probiotic suggestion.

quincy

*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 3rd night)

~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)

~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)

~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed

~vitamins/minerals

~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime

~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper

~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)

~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)

My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

icanrace

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Posted 10/9/2007 12:47 PM (GMT -7)

quincy said...
Bleeding comes from the fact that the tissue is "friable" or fragile and has started to break down and easily peel away. There's a process of the destruction of tissue...not all have visible ulcers or ulcerations..but yes, you would only have bleeding with inflammation, and as princesea mentioned..it could be from anal tears (fissures) or hemorrhoids.

What other symptoms are you having? Diarrhea?

Since UC starts at the rectum, it seems it's the last part to heal as well as the first place to start. Considering the wear and tear it gets during bms..it will still be fragile..especially with more formed bms.

You should really consider to discuss rectal meds with your doctor...I'd suggest 5ASA retentions enemas ...to help the healing process.

I also support the probiotic suggestion.

quincy

I guess I have diarrhea (it's mostly blood)

icanrace

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Posted 10/9/2007 12:51 PM (GMT -7)

please see my latest post here www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=932470&p=1

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