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Nights seem to be worse for me, anyone else?

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Beth75
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Posted 10/11/2007 7:54 AM (GMT -7)
I don't know why but I seem to be getting up more at night lately to have a bm, every couple of hours or last night every hour.  This might be stupid but maybe I am eating to much at dinner and it is that what is causing me to go more (more food = more bm's?)  During the day I seem to get a few hours (and yesterday it was a full 8 hours during the day w/no bm - woo hoo!).  I still have to go about 4 times after getting up before I leave the house.
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jacqueline s
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Posted 10/11/2007 8:19 AM (GMT -7)

I agree, nights are worse for me.  Usually make it through to the early hours before dashing to the loo then calms down by mid morning.  Depends if night medication stays put for a few hours!

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pb4
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Posted 10/11/2007 2:13 PM (GMT -7)
Most people here complain about mornings being the most active time (myself included), what's the last time of the day/evening you eat before you're going to bed and what are you typically eating as your last meal/snack before you go to bed?

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Mamas Boys
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Posted 10/11/2007 2:56 PM (GMT -7)

When I'm flaring - the nights are the absolute worst for me!  I can't get through the night without running to the toilet many - many - many times.  Some nights I even napped on the bathroom floor in between toilet runs - didn't pay to go back to bed.

My doc said the reason for this is that I used to eat my main meal in the evening.  Mornings I was still running - early afternoon I was either sleeping to make up from the night or too nauseated to think of food.  The only time I could tolerate food was in the evening.  So there was the vicious cycle.  He suggested that I try to eat my main meal earlier in the day - which should hopefully send me to the bathroom earlier and allow me to sleep through the night.  Honestly - it didn't work for me.  I started sleeping through the night as the meds started working and my colitis calmed down.

Good luck.

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kris2336
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Posted 10/11/2007 3:27 PM (GMT -7)

Nights are the worst for me when I am flaring, too.  I can sometimes go from lunchtime or so until mid-evening or bedtime without a lot of problems.  The minute I lay down, however, it's all over.  Before I went to the hospital last week, I was getting up 10-12 times a night...sometimes every 15-20 minutes. 

I continue to have a few more problems - maybe 4-5 times - in the morning after I get up, and then the afternoon break again.

My doc never said anything about eating at night, though I was usually not hungry enough to have much in the evenings anyway.

Kris2336

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Sicktree
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Posted 10/11/2007 3:57 PM (GMT -7)
Both nights and mornings suck for me. And any time I'm driving.
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kazygirl
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Posted 10/11/2007 7:18 PM (GMT -7)
nights are the worst for me definitely. whether or not i eat a big meal, small meal or anything at all.

do any of you also the issue of the second you turn over onto your side or something, BAM straight to the can?
so weird. i mostly try to lay on my back and not move if possible.
if my husband turns over and bounces the bed, BAM straight to the can.

bugger it all! i am awake like every hour, in the can for 30 minutes of it and then lie awake trying to fall asleep for another 30 minutes and 15 minutes later im awake again to go to the can for 30 minutes .... and on and on and on...

will it ever end???!!!???!!!!!
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Posted 10/12/2007 2:55 AM (GMT -7)
kazzygirl

OMG - Do i know how you feel..  I too cannot turn sides in bed - if I do - then it's straight to the toilet for a BM.  Its so annoying!!  I can sleep all night without a a bm if I sleep on my back and not move, but if I do that, I get very uncomfortable and by the morning I feel terrible.  my natural sleeping position is on my side and I really miss not being able to sleep that way!!! 

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UCisNOFUN
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Posted 10/12/2007 4:33 AM (GMT -7)
I have noticed this too. My urgency kicks in to high gear at night. Im thinking its because we are lying down. Somehow that position makes you wanna go. I had a colonoscopy Monday and I was totally emptied out, or so I thought. As soon I went from laying on my back on the hospital cot to laying on my side, I had to go...but I was already hooked up to everything and minutes from my procedure.
At night I usually notice urgency when changing positions. I sleep on my side and when I roll from one side to the other, the urgency hits my pretty strong. There has to be something about the pressure on the colon or something???
I swear, sometimes I feel like eating like a bird is the way to go, but I use food to "cope" so I have trouble with that, plus the prednisone meakes me hungry.
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Beth75
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Posted 10/12/2007 6:24 AM (GMT -7)
OMG! Yes, I do eat my main meal at night (chicken or pork usually, red meat 1xweek w/veg and starch) and do snack at night too (I love popsicles). Also, when I lay down if I turn to my side which I normally sleep on my back or my side and move during the night, I have to go then too. And when my husband goes to bed after me and wakes me up (i'm a light sleeper) I have to go then to. I don't know if it's the stuff in my colon being moved around and upsetting really ulcerated parts of it and that makes me go?? I took some tylenol pm last night and only got up twice for bm's......I had to sleep, I hadn't slept well in weeks and now I feel like I have a tylenol hangover, though I took it at 11pm when my husband woke me up, I had fallen asleep unintentionally earlier.
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carm
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Posted 10/20/2007 12:48 PM (GMT -7)
Hi Beth, The worse time for me is also the night. I usually wake  every hour. But the days have beeb terrible for me also going every 30 mins. I was diagnoses 10 years ago and did well until about 1 year ago, I am a mess now Thinking about trying Humera. Remicade  stopped woring after 6 months.    Carmel

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gela
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Posted 10/21/2007 6:05 AM (GMT -7)
my doc has been involved in a ton of research. they have actually researched this! i can't remeber exactly what is going on, but there is something that the body actually does even to a normal person in the middle of the night. a "normal" person doesn't typically respond to it and can sleep throught it. the research showed the majority were up around the 2 a.m. hour.....doesn't help us, but maybe lets us know that we didn't necessarily eat anything wrong, etc
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pb4
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Posted 10/21/2007 10:27 AM (GMT -7)
Probably having IBD makes the brain-gut sensory that much more sensitive...and definitely whacked out.

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relativelyquantum
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Posted 10/22/2007 7:20 PM (GMT -7)
With a bad flare, it doesn't seem to matter the time of day, but as things got better, I found the mornings were the hardest. Then about a couple weeks ago or so I found that the day time was easier and the night time was horrific. So I totally sympothize with you Beth and everyone else waking up several times at night. The only thing I can imagine is that maybe there is something going on with diet at certain times of the day or maybe when supplements are taken--who knows?! Laying on my side is really sensitive too and if I take a sip of water before I lay down again, well I once I do lay down I am right back up again to the toliet.

One thing makes things so much better and I highly recommend is buying some memory foam for your bed, even if it is just a couple inches that goes on top--it is so comfortable--I don't know why I waited this long to get it. It would probably help couples because it conforms to your body and you don't notice so much when someone else lays down. So if you can fork out $100-200 (probably much more if you get it much thicker), it could be well worth it--I noticed I am sleeping much better.
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pb4
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Posted 10/23/2007 8:56 AM (GMT -7)
Very true...when having a severe flare then it'll go around the clock, I always slept with a towel under my butt for those possible accidents, beats changing the entire bedding in the middle of the night...especially when the accidents happen frequently through one night alone.

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Severin
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Posted 11/6/2007 11:33 PM (GMT -7)
I find between 2am to an hour after I get out of bed, and between 10pm and midnight are the worst for me. I have only JUST been able to start sleeping on my front and sides again and it has been wonderful. I have found constantly having to lie on my back left me with a sore spine during the day.
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quincy
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Posted 11/6/2007 11:48 PM (GMT -7)
Beth...are you using the enema at night or in the morning? When do you take the pred?

If you use a foam enema....maybe do it after your morning bms or use before you have supper rather than at bedtime.

I suggest you ask the doc for dicyclomine...it's an antispasmodic and smooth muscle relaxant...will help with gut spasming and maybe the urge to go at night..take it a few hours before bedtime.

You might also consider to take probiotics and maybe a fibre supplement to help bulk up the stool a bit.

Are you at least improving since being on the pred?

As well....check out the popsicles ingredients...what's listed on them?

quincy
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Beth75
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Posted 11/7/2007 11:28 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Quincy,

I am doing much better, now going 2 to 5 times a day in the past week (just 2 times a day in the past few days) and as of last week have not been getting up in the middle of the night to have a bm. I haven't had any blood in almost two weeks and my bm's are almost fully formed. The past few days have been good, but I am not out of the woods yet, still deciding on the best course of treatments..

the popsicle's are Edy's (all natural) and I'll double check the ingredients to make sure (who knows what their 'all natural' really means!). I have cut out a lot of prepared foods, artificial sweetners, soda and caffeine since my big flare started and not sure how much that has all helped but believe it's healthier anyway.

How are you doing?
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