For what reason UC patients hve so much gas? Who can explain?

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NIcepeter
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   Posted 10/16/2007 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
What reason UC patients have so much gas? Who can explain. I work with people on my job. Passing gas in the wrong places are super annoying!           Thanks        Peter

princesa
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   Posted 10/17/2007 7:30 AM (GMT -7)   
It's a sign of imbalanced gut ecology and improper digestion. An impaired digestive system has difficulty fully breaking down and absorbing foods. What's not properly absorbed and assimilated is passed on through the system, feeding the bad gut bugs. The bad bugs begin to overpopulate and the good gut bugs are either killed off or crowded out. This makes digestion worse and the cycle continues. The bad bugs give off various types of gas. Here's an article to explain it better:

http://www.leakygut.co.uk/Dysbiosis.htm


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
C-scope confirmed UC diagnosis 9/18/2007
No explanation for right side pain and thickening of bowel wall
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine, back on a pred taper for first flare in years
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


NIcepeter
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   Posted 10/17/2007 7:59 AM (GMT -7)   
So. VSL#3 should help then?

Lonie
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   Posted 10/17/2007 8:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Probiotics did help me with the gas. Sometimes I get it when I eat a gassier food such as broccoli or fruit, but for the most part, the probiotic has helped quite a bit. How long have you been taking VSL?

Carol

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NIcepeter
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   Posted 10/17/2007 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Not started yet. Trying to make my mind to pick between Bio-pro and VSL #3. I have too many supplements on my counter now. Thanks Peter

tabitha m
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   Posted 10/17/2007 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Here's a weird thing - i had a major flare earlier this year and it suddenly dawned on me one day that  i hardly ever passed wind !! As soon as i was better back to normal , strange old thing this Uc aint it !!
Tab
Diagnosed Proctitis 2003
leaped to Pancolitis May 2007
bye bye Pred (fingerscrossed )!
2000mg pentasa a day
omega 3
Allergic to Sulphalizine
In remission since june
Multivitamin and calcium supplement
 
 


relativelyquantum
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   Posted 10/17/2007 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Initially the probiotics may even give you gas in that the bad bacteria are dying off: something called a herxheimer reaction. This typically doesn't last more than a few days, but if it is bad, people often find relief in cutting down on the amount probiotics and gradually increasing. Just a heads up in case this should happen.

I'd try pro-bio first because it is cheaper and people seem to be doing well with it and if nothing changes i'd go for the VSL#3. I'm going for both. If you have a Costco near you their pharmacy sells VSL cheaper than online (~$61/30pk before tax). Good luck!
Pancolitis '04
Yet to go into remission, Flare-up since Aug 12th and still atempting to work in the midst of it
On Lialda (2/dy), probiotics, Oriental Medical Tea & Prescribed Diet, Greens+, Fish Oil


princesa
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   Posted 10/17/2007 11:37 AM (GMT -7)   
NIcepeter said...
So. VSL#3 should help then?
Theoretically, yes, any high potency probiotic should help rebalance gut ecology. However, I've never used that brand and can't personally speak to it's effectiveness. You should start off slowly on the dose and gradually increase to get your body adjusted to probiotics.
 
More importantly, eliminating or at least reducing starches, sugars and grains from your diet may provide alot of relief because you're eliminating the foods that really feed the bad guys.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
C-scope confirmed UC diagnosis 9/18/2007
No explanation for right side pain and thickening of bowel wall
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine, back on a pred taper for first flare in years
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


Sara14
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   Posted 10/17/2007 12:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I get very little gas since getting UC. I actually got a lot of gas before I had UC, but not anymore. I guess I'm lucky.
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - nightly
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; experimenting w/fiber supplements (Metamucil and Fiber Choice); Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; ground flaxseed


Sideshowbob
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   Posted 10/17/2007 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I still have lots of gas, always did, but not that painful bloating gas that I had during my flares. My partner at work thinks I should get a butt transplant.......and my wife agrees. :)
34 year old Male
First Flare was February 2005. Diagnosed June 2005-left-sided Colitis, suspect it has since spread. Started 4000 mg Oral Salofalk June 2005-stopped January 2007. Remission until November 2006.
Been in a flare to various degrees since November 2006 to February 2007. Currently in remission.
Presently on 0 mg Prednisone-down from 60 mg!
Weekly 4000 mg Salofalk enemas.
Daily 4000 mg Salofalk oral.
Started Omeprazole 20 mg February 2007.
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munchkindd
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   Posted 10/19/2007 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   
what are probiotics and what exactly are the benefits?

billo
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   Posted 10/19/2007 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
i think passing gas is GREAT, ok that sounded bad, but in terms of getting healthy... it can't be bad right? who cares if someone complains, what they never farted? last week i passed gas VERY quietly and just walked away... in my condition i notice when i'm passing gas, my stomach is VERY good, and i'm having close to normal bm's

princesa
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   Posted 10/19/2007 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   
munchkindd said...
what are probiotics and what exactly are the benefits?
Check out this article:
 
http://www.mercola.com/2004/sep/29/probiotics_benefits.htm
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
C-scope confirmed UC diagnosis 9/18/2007
No explanation for right side pain and thickening of bowel wall
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine, back on a pred taper for first flare in years
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 10/19/2007 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Gas in the digestive tract comes from two causes:

* Swallowing air (aerophagia)
Everyone swallows small amounts of air when eating and drinking, but eating or drinking rapidly, as well as chewing gum, smoking, or wearing loose dentures can cause some people to take in more air. Belching or burping, is the way most swallowed air leaves the stomach. The remaining gas is partially absorbed into the small intestine and a small amount goes into the large intestine and is released through the rectum (flatus).

* Breakdown of certain undigested foods
When we eat food and drink liquids, they are not in a form that the body can use as nourishment. Our food and drink must be changed into smaller molecules of nutrients before they can be absorbed into the blood and carried to cells throughout the body. Digestion is the process by which food and drink are broken down into their smallest parts so that the body can use them to build and nourish cells and to provide energy. Digestion begins in the mouth, when we chew and swallow, and is completed in the small intestine. The chemical process varies somewhat for different kinds of food. Flatulence occurs when certain foods do not break down completely in the stomach and small intestine. The undigested food then passes into the large intestine (colon), where hundreds of harmless and normal bacteria are waiting to break down the food, producing hydrogen, carbon dioxide, and, methane (CH4) gases, which are released through the rectum (flatus).

According to the authors of the book "Intestinal Gas", Michael D. Levitt, M.D., and John H. Bond, M.D., "only about one-third of us excrete methane (CH4)". Wondering if you are in the 1/3 category? "A person who produces methane will have stools that consistently float in water, the reason for this being methane gets trapped in the stool, making it less dense than water".

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


munchkindd
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   Posted 10/19/2007 1:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Princesa, I will check that out.
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