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doors12
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   Posted 10/28/2007 9:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Just watched a pbs special regarding Colony Collapse Disorder affecting Bees.
 
It is disturbing to say the least, and makes me wonder about connections to UC, at any rate it's worth a read, here are some links below:
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_Disorder
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
 
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quincy
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   Posted 10/28/2007 9:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh I missed it....sounded very interesting. Maybe it's on late again.

How do you think there's a connection to UC?

q
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 4th night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


doors12
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   Posted 10/29/2007 4:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't think there is a connection to UC, but it raises some unsettling questions.

Because from what I understand, UC is on the rise. I think it's strange that bees have started dying off all over the world and that whatever the condition is has some connection to weakened immune systems. The special also mentioned scarring in the bees intestines along with mentioning things like memory problems.

From pesticides, virus, fungus, etc, genetically modified foods, I can't help but wonder. But of course, like all of my speculation, it's an Off Topic issue. But something to be aware of nonetheless.
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
 
~Interested in finding a cure/making sense out of U.C. and philosophical and psychological aspects of UC and "Stress" and Personal Development issues with Chronic Illnesses. 


blankslatejoe
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   Posted 10/29/2007 4:57 PM (GMT -7)   
there IS an (indirect) relationship to UC, sort of.

those on the SCD diet have been following the colony collapse issue for months now: bees are the primary pollinators for 90% of the almonds out there, and of course, honey..both of which are staples on SCD...so less bees = higher costs for us.

also Bees are responsible for a big chunk of most agriculture pollination, I believe..so much to the point that there's the saying 'if the bees go, mankind will follow 2-3 years later'.

spooky stuff

Post Edited (blankslatejoe) : 10/29/2007 6:03:02 PM (GMT-6)


Horus
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   Posted 10/29/2007 5:39 PM (GMT -7)   
doors12 said...
I don't think there is a connection to UC, but it raises some unsettling questions.

Because from what I understand, UC is on the rise. I think it's strange that bees have started dying off all over the world and that whatever the condition is has some connection to weakened immune systems. The special also mentioned scarring in the bees intestines along with mentioning things like memory problems.

From pesticides, virus, fungus, etc, genetically modified foods, I can't help but wonder. But of course, like all of my speculation, it's an Off Topic issue. But something to be aware of nonetheless.



The main pesticide they use now is called neonicitinoids. Basically it shuts down their immune system and they get symptoms like autoimmune disease and die. And we put this on our food and eat it. I think I read that Bayer corp is the major manufacturer of this pesticide. Amazing that we have chemical companies that control our food and our medicines. Checkmate.

Lonie
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   Posted 10/29/2007 5:54 PM (GMT -7)   
But we've kind of done it to ourselves.....my friend used to work in the grocery business and said that they took out any fruits and veggies that weren't "perfect" looking because consumers wouldn't buy them. I'm hoping our minds are changing; I didn't spray one ounce of pesticide on my 18 fruit trees this year and had a bumper crop! I can say most "looked" pretty good too!

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schrek-chewbacca hunk
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   Posted 10/29/2007 6:13 PM (GMT -7)   

Actually I believe I read an article (or saw it on CNN) on this just last week...and I read that researchers have found what appears to be root cause - a virus.  Not that they know how to battle the virus - but at least it is a start.  I guess the bees need our prayers as well!

Love

bob


doors12
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   Posted 10/29/2007 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I think they did say they boiled it down to a virus;
 
IAPV
 
 
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
 
~Interested in finding a cure/making sense out of U.C. and philosophical and psychological aspects of UC and "Stress" and Personal Development issues with Chronic Illnesses. 


doors12
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   Posted 10/29/2007 7:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Horus said...
The main pesticide they use now is called neonicitinoids. Basically it shuts down their immune system and they get symptoms like autoimmune disease and die.
Horus;
 
I remember hearing that on the special - that also concerned me as I personally smoke.  (I believe that is a Nicotine based pesticide correct me if I'm wrong)  I felt that there was a real practical reason for me smoking.  What I mean by that is, as my disease worsened (then undiagnosed despite full physical and trip to a GI) , I felt the need suddenly to chain smoke all the time. 
 
Plus the whole 'word on the street' thing that smoking helps UC but not Crohn's I guess.  Please note; I am not condoning smoking as a medical treatment.  It always makes me curious how in the literature you always come across that UC is "a disease of non-smokers."  I certainly was smoking my behind off before DX.  Seems almost *too* convenient to come across that in the scant, typically un-unified literature on UC, but I digress into yet another RJ Reynolds, Phillip Morris, conspiracy theory.  Forgive me, my intentions are good. 
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
 
~Interested in finding a cure/making sense out of U.C. and philosophical and psychological aspects of UC and "Stress" and Personal Development issues with Chronic Illnesses. 


quincy
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   Posted 10/29/2007 7:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Virus makes sense...they're very efficiently spread.
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 4th night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


pb4
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   Posted 10/29/2007 8:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sure I will die without my bee propolis, maybe I'll have to look into raising my own.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


Sara14
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   Posted 10/29/2007 9:25 PM (GMT -7)   
doors - I was also smoking a lot before being Dxed...and kept thinking to myself, "the one good thing smoking done for me, and I still got UC..." Interesting post.
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