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Gargamel
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   Posted 12/9/2007 2:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there,

I just wanted to know why I have odorless diarrhea most of the time.

My bowel movements are painless and odorless is this a normal characteristic of Ulcerative Colitis?


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princesscolon
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   Posted 12/9/2007 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
It's not normal for me, but it sure would be nice! Especially the painless part but odorless would be nice too! Maybe it's your diet? I heard lots of meat makes it stinky. Are you on a certain diet?
Diagnosed with Left-sided Ulcerative Colitis 1995 at 15
Tried: Prednisone, Rowasa & Hydrocortisone Enemas, Proctofoam, Sulfasalazine, Asacol, Probiotics, Fish Oil, Canasa, Enotcourt, Colazol, Proctocort, Anamantle...
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis with rectal fistula in 2004, put on Remicade
2007: Increased Remicade dosage to 660mg every 6 weeks, diagnosed with Psoriatic Arthritis and Fibromyalgia
Current meds: Remicade 660mgs every 6 wks, Lomotil, Tramadol, Darvocet, Clorazepate, new meds I am about to start: Prograf, Cymbalta, Lyrica


suebear
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   Posted 12/9/2007 4:36 PM (GMT -7)   
If your transit time is quick you probably don't have the time for bacteria to colonize and therefore lack odor.  As for pain, I never had pain with my UC.  I was miserable but not in pain.  As a side note, I don't have any odor with a j-pouch either.
 
Sue
dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998
1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics
2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic
2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free
 


Gargamel
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   Posted 12/10/2007 4:53 AM (GMT -7)   
I do have very fast transit and about 8-10 bowel movements a day...
 
I was wondering if it could be bile-salt diarrhea aggrevating my symptoms?
 
How do I find if it is, is there a test I could do?
 
 
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Old Mike
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   Posted 12/10/2007 6:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I am also pretty much oderless except at the very end of a blow out then it is fowl.
This has been a questin in my mind for many years. If you walk into a public bathroom
the smell can be quite strong but that is usually the sign of a healthy bowel.
What I believe is going on is that the compostition of our bowel flora has changed and that is why the stool does not smell much, or anything like a healthy bowel.
There are a few new articles on medline about bowel flora changes with UC.
Here is one abstract. Old Mike
 
 

Active Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis can be specifically diagnosed and monitored based on the biostructure of the fecal flora.

Humboldt University, Charité Hospital, Laboratory for Molecular Genetics, Polymicrobial Infections and Bacterial Biofilms, Berlin, Germany.

Background: The intestinal microflora is important in the pathogenesis of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). The impact of its spatial organization on health and disease is unknown.Methods: We investigated sections of paraffin-embedded punched fecal cylinders. Fluctuations in spatial distribution of 11 bacterial groups were monitored in healthy subjects (n = 32), patients with IBD (n = 204), and other gastrointestinal diseases (n = 186) using fluorescence in situ hybridization (FISH).Results: The microbial structure differed in patients with Crohn's disease (CD), ulcerative colitis (UC), and healthy and disease controls. The profiles of CD and UC were distinctly opposite in 6 of 11 FISH probes used. Most prominent were a depletion of Faecalibacterium prausnitzii (Fprau<1 x 10(9)/mL) with a normal leukocyte count in CD and a massive increase of leukocytes in the fecal-mucus transition zone (>30 leukocytes/10(4)mum(2)) with high Fprau in patients with UC. These 2 features alone enabled the recognition of active CD (Crohn's Disease Activity Index [CDAI] >150) or UC (Clinical Activity Index [CAI] >3) with 79%/80% sensitivity and 98%/100% specificity. The mismatch in the sensitivity was mainly due to overlap between single IBD entities, and the specificity was exclusively due to the similarity of Crohn's and celiac disease. When inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) patients were pooled the sensitivity was 100% for severe disease, 84% for moderate activity, 72% for IBD with </=12 months remission, and 24% for IBD with >12 months remission.Conclusions: The fecal flora is highly structured and spatially organized. Diagnosing IBD and monitoring disease activity can be performed based on analysis of punched fecal cylinders independent from the patient's complaints.(Inflamm Bowel Dis 2007).


princesscolon
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   Posted 12/10/2007 7:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Is it ever green?  Sometimes my D is green when is seems to go through me quickly.

Diagnosed with Left-sided Ulcerative Colitis 1995 at 15
Tried: Prednisone, Rowasa & Hydrocortisone Enemas, Proctofoam, Sulfasalazine, Asacol, Probiotics, Fish Oil, Canasa, Enotcourt, Colazol, Proctocort, Anamantle...
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis with rectal fistula in 2004, put on Remicade
2007: Increased Remicade dosage to 660mg every 6 weeks, diagnosed with Psoriatic Arthritis and Fibromyalgia
Current meds: Remicade 660mgs every 6 wks, Lomotil, Tramadol, Darvocet, Clorazepate, new meds I am about to start: Prograf, Cymbalta, Lyrica


Gargamel
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   Posted 12/10/2007 7:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Never green, but everything sinks to the bottom of the bowl like a lead balloon.
 
I wonder if the constant diarrhea over the years has washed out most of the bacteria in the colon leaving it almost sterile?
 
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love4cats
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   Posted 12/10/2007 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
My first and worst flare, I had odorless, D and no pain. My second flare, I didn't have odor, but did have horrible spasms.
 
 
Dx:  2006
 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence.
 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 
Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


ediekristen
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   Posted 12/10/2007 8:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey, at least if someone says "Don't act like your poop doesn't stink" you can say "Actually, it doesn't!"
:P

I too have this happen from time to time. Sometimes I wish it did more often! But I honestly don't know the reason behind it, but it's probably not necessarily a good thing considering BMs are supposed to have some sort of odor. I would at least mention it to your GI if it concerns you, but the transit time does sound like a good explanation!
Female, 22, Ulcerative colitis (pancolitis) since 1999; GERD; gastritis; osteopenia in hip & lumbar region of spine from long term prednisone use

Current Meds:
40 mg Citalopram (for depression/social anxiety)
125mg Imuran
 
Should also be on supplements and probiotics and other UC drugs but I'm just not good at taking pills...


Beth75
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   Posted 12/10/2007 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
when going more than a few times a day my poo doesn't stink.
Beth, 32
Major Flare Sept/Oct 07 ~ working on remission almost there
UC Diagnosed March 2000 (30 cenitmeters)
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly;Hydrocortisone e's tapering, Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) Diagnosed Sept 2007
Prednisone 60/40mg alt days 1xday, Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Potassium 600mg 2xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.

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