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Another UC wife
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   Posted 12/10/2007 11:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok..............just what we need another thing to be dealing with.  He tested positive for H Pylori and will need to start a regimine of anti biotics or whatever to get rid of it.
 
Anyone out there have this, had this?  I obviously need to be tested too as it can be contaigious.  It is something that is easy enough to treat from what I understand.
 
Once I know what the treatment will be do we need to be concerned with the balance of the good and bad bacteria as it will probably get out of whack again?  If so maybe I need some acidophilus too if I need the same treatment.
 
She doesn't want to start him on anything until the prednisone is totally weaned off.  We are going on a cruise in January and depending on the timing, type of medication I may ask for it to hold off until afterwards.  Last thing I want is before or during the cruise him having any kind of problems and not be home here and or extra super sensitivity to sun to be concerned about.
 
He has been uncomfortable for the past 2-3 days - not flaring (or so he says) but I am quite nervous about making him worse treating this (which I know has to be treated).  He is looking forward to the holidays and right now I don't want to see anything mess things up.  Last year was lousy so of course I am hoping for him to have a better Christmas this year obviously.
 
Never a dull moment....  :-)

61 yr old male~Colitis 1st diagnosed Jan '05-cleared up within a few wks. Flared again in May '06 (now UC) & hospitalized 5/07-currently heading towards a remission. Osteopena of spine from prednisone DX 8/07  Oct 07 feeling quite normal most days.  150mg Imuran 2 1/2 mg prednisone & tapering, 12 Asacol, Lidocaine Hydrochloride Jelly 2%,multi vitamin, iron 1X day, DanActive, chewable calcium, Prilosec 20mg, enalapril 10mg, glipizide 5 mg, zocor 40 mg, baby aspirin, (Fentanyl pain patch 50mg 72 hrs  Morphine Sulf 15 mg twice daily)Cortifoam enema PM, Canasa suppositiry AM, folic acid 1mg, Fosamax 1x month


quincy
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   Posted 12/11/2007 1:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow, that totally sucks!!! I've never had it, but recently I've had a week's worth of stomach discomfort/pains/spasming....and always thinking the worst...h.pylori came to mind. If it continues, I'll get it checked out for sure.

You can ask the doc if he can take a proton pump inhibitor to at least keep the stomach acid from eating away at the weak spots. Maybe something like Pariet...I have a script of it but don't take it all the time..hmm, should start today I guess to see if it helps me, d'oh!

Many are on omeprazole and do fine on it...but I really felt "weird" when I took it..so, I'm negging that one.

I sure hope you don't have it....but it's good you're getting checked.

Regarding sun....he should really be very careful anyway considering the meds he's on. Lots of good sunscreen, both physical and chemical blocker are good.

Let us know how it goes....you're right..never a dull moment.

quincy
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 4th night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Harpo
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   Posted 12/11/2007 7:44 AM (GMT -7)   
I've heard most people have H pylori residing in their gut.. Its very common..
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Old Hat
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   Posted 12/11/2007 8:26 AM (GMT -7)   
TEACHER had a nasty bout of H pylori recently-- maybe he'll see this thread & advise you. / Old Hat (nearly 30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

Severin
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   Posted 12/11/2007 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
H Pylori is that bacteria they discovered was responsible for most cases of stomach ulcers after the scientist infected himself with it to prove his research.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori for more info etc
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Sideshowbob
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   Posted 12/11/2007 7:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm on omeprozole for life now as a result of the h.pylori and prednisone, on suggestion from both my GI and my surgeon.

i tested positive last year (after i was hospitalized) and went on the antibiotic regime to rid myself of it. a breath test this summer confirmed its all gone. dont put off getting the omeprozole....because the acids build up, and (if in like my case) they build up enough and cause an ulcer which perforates, your hubby will need surgery.
35 year old Male, Husband, Father of the best three kids in the universe.
First Flare was February 2005. Diagnosed June 2005-left-sided Colitis, suspect it has since spread. Started 4000 mg Oral Salofalk June 2005-stopped January 2007. Remission until November 2006. Been in a flare to various degrees since November 2006 to February 2007. Currently in remission.
Presently on 0 mg Prednisone-down from 60 mg!
Weekly 4000 mg Salofalk enemas.
Daily 4000 mg Salofalk oral.
Started Omeprazole 20 mg February 2007.
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Another UC wife
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   Posted 12/11/2007 10:01 PM (GMT -7)   
My husband takes omeprazole every day and has for quite some time before any of this H Pylori stuff ever came up - he had to stop it for one week prior to the breath test and then back on it....his Mom had bad ulcers - poor thing probably had H Pylori for many years and it was never diagnosed which led to the ulcers.

I try to make sure he uses a high SPF, wears hats etc on a normal basis. I was referring to additional meds (anti biotics) that can sometime intensify and magnify the effects of the sun while we are cruising.

I am not super concerned as it sounds like with proper meds it will go away. What scares me is in the process of ridding himself of it the side effects of the medicines to be used and the potential to mess up his progress.

Are there different meds used to treat this? He had an allergic reaction once many years ago to Amoxycillin and ever since he was told not to take cillin drugs anymore. Not sure if he would still be allergic to the cillin drugs but they are never prescribed to be on the safe side.

Plus of course I want to know if I have it to get rid of too.

61 yr old male~Colitis 1st diagnosed Jan '05-cleared up within a few wks. Flared again in May '06 (now UC) & hospitalized 5/07-currently heading towards a remission. Osteopena of spine from prednisone DX 8/07  Oct 07 feeling quite normal most days.  150mg Imuran 2 1/2 mg prednisone & tapering, 12 Asacol, Lidocaine Hydrochloride Jelly 2%,multi vitamin, iron 1X day, DanActive, chewable calcium, Prilosec 20mg, enalapril 10mg, glipizide 5 mg, zocor 40 mg, baby aspirin, (Fentanyl pain patch 50mg 72 hrs  Morphine Sulf 15 mg twice daily)Cortifoam enema PM, Canasa suppositiry AM, folic acid 1mg, Fosamax 1x month


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   Posted 12/12/2007 5:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow, your poor hubby! He has been thru so much lately hasn't he?? H. Pylori can be a stubborn thing to get rid of in some people. My best friends hubby has it but he wasn't very good at taking his antibiotics so he just suffers with it. Not wise in my opinion but then again my opinion of him isn't very high anyway! :) But yes, definately have yourself checked out too.
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Another UC wife
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   Posted 12/12/2007 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Another question to those of you if you know.......if he has had this unbeknownst to him for several years which is before the UC became so bad...is it possible that this H Pylori has/had an effect on the UC or are they two different unrelated things?? Just curious.

61 yr old male~Colitis 1st diagnosed Jan '05-cleared up within a few wks. Flared again in May '06 (now UC) & hospitalized 5/07-currently heading towards a remission. Osteopena of spine from prednisone DX 8/07  Oct 07 feeling quite normal most days.  150mg Imuran 2 1/2 mg prednisone & tapering, 12 Asacol, Lidocaine Hydrochloride Jelly 2%,multi vitamin, iron 1X day, DanActive, chewable calcium, Prilosec 20mg, enalapril 10mg, glipizide 5 mg, zocor 40 mg, baby aspirin, (Fentanyl pain patch 50mg 72 hrs  Morphine Sulf 15 mg twice daily)Cortifoam enema PM, Canasa suppositiry AM, folic acid 1mg, Fosamax 1x month


quincy
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   Posted 12/12/2007 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   
It seems it's not related, but I would think that if there are problems in the digestive tract..no matter where, there will be some influence regarding symptoms. 
 
http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/full/42/1/384
*Heather*Status:mini flare June 23* 6asacol daily+ Salofalk (tapered every 4th night)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals 
~Probiotic 2 (Natural Factors Protec) + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) at bedtime
~Natural Factors Multi Digestive Enzymes with supper
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


basa0806
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   Posted 12/12/2007 10:02 AM (GMT -7)   
I had h-pylori prior to being diagnosed with UC. My GI put me on antibiotics and I was doing REALLY well and then we asked if I could stay on them another week. He agreed but said to be very careful because it could end up killing all the bacteria in my GI tract. Well, he was right. It did end up killing it all and really messed up my system for a while. I just wouldn't take it beyond its prescribed course and you should be fine.
My mom swears to God that having h-pylori is what brought me the UC, but I guess there's not proof of it. The same thing happened to me when I was a baby with ear infections. It could just be a coincidence.

Sam

Diagnosed in September 2004

Currently on...4800mg Asacol, 25mg Elavil, Ortho Tricyclen and some immodium

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   Posted Today 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
In addition to taking the antibiotic therapy, it would be beneficial (as always) to supplement a probiotic.  One study in particular showed that taking Lactobacillus casei DN-114 001 along with the therapy had 90% success, while the control group (having plain milk, instead of the probiotic) had only 60% success in eliminating Helicobacter.  This probiotic was found in a milk product called Actimel, popular in Europe, but in the US it can be found in DanActive.
 
Also promising results have been shown that Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG, Saccharomyces boulardii, mixed with various Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium strains significantly reduced the unwanted symptoms that normally accompany this treatment.
 
Best of luck.  Enjoy your cruise.  I went on one for the first time a couple years ago and had a great time.  Good idea to not get overexposed to the sun, but some sun is really good, getting Vitamin D, which also has great benefits for UC, possibly (I will post something on this soon).
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Yet to ever go into remission, additional Flare-up since Aug 12th and still atempting to work in the midst of it Time off work since 10/17. 
 
Finally seeing some improvement; likely was complicated with a digestional yeast overgrowth.
 
On Lialda (2/dy), probiotics, Oriental Medical Tea & Prescribed Diet, Fish Oil, Folic Acid


Another UC wife
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   Posted Today 9:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, I already mentioned to him whatever he is put on we will definitely need to up the pro biotic during that time so it doesn't get all messed up and maybe start another flare....MY NERVES!!!

Depending on when this is to start and what the time period is if it is getting too close to the cruise departure I am going to suggest he start it when we return and he agrees too. Why put something else in the equation here to maybe mess things up. I'm sure his Dr won't mind either. We don't need additional problems when you are not near to home.

61 yr old male~Colitis 1st diagnosed Jan '05-cleared up within a few wks. Flared again in May '06 (now UC) & hospitalized 5/07-currently heading towards a remission. Osteopena of spine from prednisone DX 8/07  Oct 07 feeling quite normal most days.  150mg Imuran 2 1/2 mg prednisone & tapering, 12 Asacol, Lidocaine Hydrochloride Jelly 2%,multi vitamin, iron 1X day, DanActive, chewable calcium, Prilosec 20mg, enalapril 10mg, glipizide 5 mg, zocor 40 mg, baby aspirin, (Fentanyl pain patch 50mg 72 hrs  Morphine Sulf 15 mg twice daily)Cortifoam enema PM, Canasa suppositiry AM, folic acid 1mg, Fosamax 1x month

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